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On April 04 2013 22:53 Doodsmack wrote:
It's unfortunate for the current code a & b players but IMO, blizzard did what's best in the long run for esports and the spectators. From a spectator standpoint it's much better for GSL and OSL to have implications for a year-end world championship, rather than for the WCS to be just another tourney among many. Ultimately, you can't please everybody. Blizzard did what they had to do given the circumstances in each region.
I understand why they made OSL/GSL the Korean WCS . Do you think both would co-operate when Blizzard's new tournament would invalidate their status quo ? I sincerly doubt that. OGN and Gom wanted to keep their leagues as WCS qualifiers for their co-operation thats pretty clear . At least thats how i see it.
Yeah quite a few of Koreans players get shafted by this . But it's a buiness afterall for OGN and Gom.
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On April 04 2013 23:44 TAMinator wrote:
Naniwa to take the final korean spot from Nestea. Called it. (You don't even know how much I want this to happen HEHEHEHE)
I don't get it. What do you mean?
The main complaint is that those in Code A and in Prelims can't compete in this season of WCS Korea and both Nestea and Naniwa are out of the running for this season as it is. They can somehow break into next season though and I guess your scenario could happen then, but even then I'm not sure how they can both be in the running for 5th/6th points wise... Maybe season 3 or Grand Finals.
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On April 04 2013 11:41 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 11:39 TommyP wrote:
I remember on Lo3 that Incontrol was saying how he wanted to smack everyone that didn't agree this was a good thing. I really want to see incontrol hit MC. Because you should hit everyone who doesn't share the same opinions as you're own. That's classy. 
Only when you're bigger than the person you're hitting ;]
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The way that I thought it was going to work was they were going to award points to players based on tournament results i.e. win mlg get 50 points win gsl 200 points etc. then the players that led their respective regions in points would qualify for WCS.
This new format doesn't seem to fit well with how starcraft has developed and seems to remove a lot of incentive for players I do like the fact that it is removing a lot of the disconnect between tournaments for players.
Hopefully it continues to develop into a far better format but, I really don't like it for this year.
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Man I really want to know the incomprehensible archery analogy ;__;
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May be thats a silly question but why cant the GSL and de WCS be played both in one season? Would that be to much of an investment? In this case ode A/B koreans could stay in korea playing their qualifiers respectivley up's and down's and the code S koreans could play the GSL and the best of them also compete in the wcs regionals?
I do not understand this so far....
(sorry for my bad english -.-')
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Waxangel is some sort of pro at making titles
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Was thinking the exact same thing. First season of WCS should be open and not have the seeded Code S players because it becomes impossible for the non-Code S Koreans to even have a shot at getting anywhere near representing Korea. Also how Code S is set up means that very little new players will be able to get into this top 32 (?) and overall it'll just be very difficult for the majority of Korean pro-gamers to get anywhere near WCS.
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On April 05 2013 00:47 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
Waxangel is some sort of pro at making titles
Yes he is. He has painted Polt in my mind as someone with rather cruel intentions.
And I love Polt.
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Gotta agree with MC. Everything about this format is SO AMAZING until you find out that any Korean player can just fly over here and whoop every poor American's ass. Shouldn't be this way.
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On April 05 2013 00:48 InsidiA wrote:
Was thinking the exact same thing. First season of WCS should be open and not have the seeded Code S players because it becomes impossible for the non-Code S Koreans to even have a shot at getting anywhere near representing Korea. Also how Code S is set up means that very little new players will be able to get into this top 32 (?) and overall it'll just be very difficult for the majority of Korean pro-gamers to get anywhere near WCS.
from 5 code S + 1 OSL to now 3 WCS, and with many kespa players entering the sc2 scene. Yeah they're getting screwed pretty badly :[
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It's really a bad news for those non-top Korean players who are still struggling in the preliminaries. What a disaster!
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Polt gives new meaning to "A-move".
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Why the Blizzard hate? Isn't GomTV and/or OnGameNet the ones who decided to limit it to only Code S players for the 1st season just to keep it in line with their current setup? I mean the players aren't limited in NA or EU, just Korea which tells me blizzard didn't pull that string.
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On April 05 2013 00:50 Nuclease wrote:
Gotta agree with MC. Everything about this format is SO AMAZING until you find out that any Korean player can just fly over here and whoop every poor American's ass. Shouldn't be this way.
This is how I feel. Exactly.
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On April 05 2013 00:54 idkfa wrote:
Polt gives new meaning to "A-move".
Well played Sir, well played.
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On April 05 2013 00:51 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 00:48 InsidiA wrote:
Was thinking the exact same thing. First season of WCS should be open and not have the seeded Code S players because it becomes impossible for the non-Code S Koreans to even have a shot at getting anywhere near representing Korea. Also how Code S is set up means that very little new players will be able to get into this top 32 (?) and overall it'll just be very difficult for the majority of Korean pro-gamers to get anywhere near WCS. from 5 code S + 1 OSL to now 3 WCS, and with many kespa players entering the sc2 scene. Yeah they're getting screwed pretty badly :[
The GSL format was just never very good for the smaller more unknown players because of how difficult it is to get from Code B to Code S yet how easy it is to retain your Code S spot if youre in it (yes i realize they earned this spot). At this point it seems with WCS being less frequent and having so much prize pool it'll just seem silly for these lesser players to play in WCS.
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i'd rather watch WCS with 85% of top tier Korean players and 15% of top tier foreigner players than 33% of Top tier korean players playing against 15% of good foreigners and 52% of foreigners who won't stand any chance at all to even win a map. It's a pretty bad system that dis encourage foreigners from getting better as they will be able to get lots of money by winning their regional WCSs and be nowhere near the level of Korean players in grand finals.
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Id rather have good Koreans than watch foreign players get raped without even winning a game in the final tournament. MLG was horrible until later rounds.
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On April 05 2013 00:56 InsidiA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2013 00:51 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:On April 05 2013 00:48 InsidiA wrote:
Was thinking the exact same thing. First season of WCS should be open and not have the seeded Code S players because it becomes impossible for the non-Code S Koreans to even have a shot at getting anywhere near representing Korea. Also how Code S is set up means that very little new players will be able to get into this top 32 (?) and overall it'll just be very difficult for the majority of Korean pro-gamers to get anywhere near WCS. from 5 code S + 1 OSL to now 3 WCS, and with many kespa players entering the sc2 scene. Yeah they're getting screwed pretty badly :[ The GSL format was just never very good for the smaller more unknown players because of how difficult it is to get from Code B to Code S yet how easy it is to retain your Code S spot if youre in it (yes i realize they earned this spot). At this point it seems with WCS being less frequent and having so much prize pool it'll just seem silly for these lesser players to play in WCS.
After a few seasons, the NA and EU WCS will be just as bad for up and coming players as the GSL currently is. I respect the complaints, but they are mostly caused by the NA and EU establishing a new league, rather than some master plan to screw over Korean players. Korea has always been the hardest place for players to make it, regardless of where they are from and Blizzard's new event wasn't going to change that. Life is hard and not fair, get a helmet.
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