Stephano leaving Korea, giving up his Code S match - Page 15

On March 28 2013 07:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:


Events without Koreans don't count.

On March 28 2013 07:37 Hrrrrm wrote:
The only way to be surprised by this is if he had won a GSL title easily and decided to pull out. Stephano is only interested in SC2 until he stops getting money consistently from it. He's been pretty up front about it and that's a reason why I respect him. He's actually treating it like a job, because it is. Once this job starts sucking ass for him there really is no reason for him to stay when he has schooling lined up for something that he wants to do. Also getting out of Korea means more streaming at NA/EU friendly times and more money in his pocket. He was never cut out for Korea but, at least he decided to try it out.

It will be interesting to see how his results are in the future.

On March 28 2013 07:55 Jacmert wrote:
@TeslasPigeon: If Stephano were able to produce some good results in GSL/Korea, that would be MORE than enough positive exposure to make up for him missing some European tournaments. For fans of Proleague and GSL like me, just seeing him compete is already good positive exposure for EG. Now that he's pulling out, it actually works as negative exposure to the brand, imo.

I'm still pulling for EG-TL, though. #gogo foreigners!

On March 28 2013 08:01 TeslasPigeon wrote:


I'm sorry but the amount of people that watch DH and MLG dwarf PL and GSL. You have western tournaments that pull in over a million uniques per events for sc2.

The hardcore fans of starcraft are a small amount, not to mention that this segment will still continue to be fans regardless of Stephano's decision. It is a much wiser from a marketing standpoint to increase your viewer and fan base, you aren't going to accomplish this in Korea. Especially for a game where the numbers aren't exactly there compared to western events and spectators.

On March 28 2013 08:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:


A lot of people watch GSL. There's a reason they're the only SC2 related esport company that actually make a profit.

On March 28 2013 08:25 Maghetti wrote:
What I don't get from reading threads defending stephano that say "he is in it for the money, good choice" etc etc is why people actually support him? Think of it like an amoral corporation doing some action, any action, purely for their own profit. If that action helps a person, you would support it(but the corp doesnt care as long as they are paid) or they do something you dont like(and the corp doesnt care as long as they are paid), why would you give a shit about the corporations goals? In a free market the amoral corporation does stuff, and if its bad, they get punished by the consumer. Similarly, if you're fan of seeing foreigners in korea or generally playing the best players and trying to be the best, would you not support that person regardless of what they think? And if Stephano is in it only for the money and has no interest in being the best, playing the best, or playing in the hardest league should you not think thats a shitty ass thing regardless of what he himself thinks? Why the hell are you supporting him if his actions are bad for the viewers, including yourself?

On March 28 2013 08:31 jmbthirteen wrote:

1. Stephano isn't a corporation and shouldn't be thought of as one.
2. A sc2 player only has a short amount of years to compete at the highest level. They should be making as much money as possible in that time frame, especially since they are putting of school/work.
3. If Stephano isn't happy in Korea, why should he be forced to stay there? It will do him no good to stay in an environment he doesn't like. It won't make him a better player. He will just be unhappy.
4. His actions aren't bad for the viewers at all. If anything its better. His fanbase isn't in korea. This way we get to see him play in more foreign tournaments and stream in much more friendly hours, rather than at 4am for Code S.

On March 28 2013 08:39 Maghetti wrote:

1. Yeah but the aim to make money as the only goal is exactly what corporations do.
2. Come on, you're doing it again. Looking at it from HIS perspective. The viewer perspective is to see the best matches. in MMA we want to see Anderson Silva vs another champion because it is a great fight. In starcraft the viewer wants to see stephano vs whoever the hell it happens to be you and others want to see him against.
3. He isn't forced to. Hell he could quit and become a pop star if he wants, the point is not what he wants, it is what the fans want. Do the fans want to see him become a pop star? No, they want to see him make foreigners matter in the scene and the fans should feel negative about his leaving korea and hurting this desire of fans.
4. People want to see foreigners succeed vs koreans and win GSLs(not me but many people).

So, why are you being his spokesman instead of voicing your own desires?

On March 28 2013 08:41 jmbthirteen wrote:

because i don't think a fans desire should be to make the player miserable? Sorry that I view Stephano as an individual. I don't think any of his fans should be upset that he isn't staying in Korea when they know he isn't happy there. You aren't really a fan of his if you feel that way.

On March 28 2013 08:48 Maghetti wrote:

Well I am not a fan of his, but I still feel very confused about peoples defense of his actions. Stephano pay check hunting and not playing in the most prestigious league is not the defense, its the thing that should be judged. Is this good or bad for a person to do in your view? I know personally I will root for people who work hard, want to play the best, and care about entertaining the fans over a pay check. Why would you be a fan of someone who doesn't want to work as hard as his competitors or make sacrifices?