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On February 23 2013 07:00 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:49 Veldril wrote:On February 23 2013 05:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 05:04 digmouse wrote:On February 23 2013 04:48 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:46 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:40 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:35 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:31 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:20 Wingblade wrote:
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This is such an obnoxious and abstract post that it's impossible to disprove. How can you honestly say that SC2 games simply aren't interesting enough with anything other than your opinion. The SC2 is way over saturated is a much bigger issue, plus these last three months have been such a downtime since "Super November", an event that is in and of itself a sign of oversaturation.
It isn't "that simple" at all, and if you attempt to say it is without any evidence whatsoever is just silly. It IS just my opinion. But viewer numbers have been dropping steadily since launch, right? That's a fact. It's just my opinion on why people are getting bored with watching the game, that's all. You could argue it's due to over-saturation, but I'd argue back that it's because the games aren't good enough to hold viewers interests across so many different events. I'm speaking from my own experience as well. I used to follow SC2 extremely hardcore and slowly I got more and more bored with the games. We just don't get nearly as many awesome games as we got from BW or TFT. There have obviously been some classics (gumiho vs mma and scfou vs nestea come to mind), but the amount of these epic games is incredibly small compared to previous Blizzard efforts. Viewers dropping since launch isn't a fact at all. At launch we had nowhere near the steadily increasing amount of viewers we have at the moment. There seems to be so many random, uninformed forum goers like yourself who state untrue things as facts to try and convince people that the bubble has burst. Have some proof? I'm just going by what I see from stream numbers. On Twitch SC2 hovers around 8k to 15k viewers these days. That used to be way higher. Players like Idra used to get 16-20k viewers, now he probably averages like 4k? By all means correct me if I'm wrong. When you couple that with how much doom and gloom has been going around these forums, plus all the team closures and player retirements, well you can't blame me for coming to that conclusion. Who cares how many views player streams are getting? It used to be pretty rare for Idra to stream, now it's most days. The important figure is tournament viewership, which has been rising. Also, the player retirements were bound to happen eventually, because of over saturation. There haven't even been that many team closures, some teams have had to scale back due to their players not getting results but that is irrelevant to how well SC2 is doing. If tournament views are rising then why is IPL in trouble? Can you show this proof or you're just making stuff up? You're just speculating that IPL is in trouble, while entire case is about ZD wanna cut the entire IGN network down, does that mean 1UP, gamespy and UGO are "in trouble" before they are shut down? The truth is 1UP and gamespy remains as some of the best video gaming site in the world. They are shut down because they overlap with IGN a lot and ZD want more focus. IPL costs a lot money to run, yet have you heard of financial difficulties of IPL? You heard prize money disputes about ESL a lot, while for IPL they are healthy, that for me, is an obvious sign that an organization is running well. I don't follow Gamespy or 1UP, so I have no idea if they're any good or not. I do follow gamespot and ign however. I imagine you don't cut profitable assets of your business, though. There're are many reasons why an organization would cut its department. If that specific department does not fit a long term goal, then it's not abnormal for the organization to sell a department that makes money and try to make a short-mid term profit from it for the reorganization. If IGN wants to focus being a media, not events organizer, then selling IPL makes a lot of senses as they could possibly profit from it and use the money they get to restructure and improve on the other area they need in their plan. So you're saying they want to get rid of IPL because they want to focus on media instead of organizing events. So why did they pick up IPL in the first place? If it was profitable enough then they wouldn't want to get rid of it. Right now there are only 440 viewers for IGNProLeague. Is that enough to sustain the organization? I think not....
Did you miss that IGN recently got sold? New owner wants to sell IPL, part of refocusing IGN.
and right now IGN is reairing the IPTL match from yesterday. Of course it only has 400 viewers...
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ..
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On February 23 2013 07:00 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:49 Veldril wrote:On February 23 2013 05:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 05:04 digmouse wrote:On February 23 2013 04:48 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:46 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:40 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:35 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:31 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:20 Wingblade wrote:
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This is such an obnoxious and abstract post that it's impossible to disprove. How can you honestly say that SC2 games simply aren't interesting enough with anything other than your opinion. The SC2 is way over saturated is a much bigger issue, plus these last three months have been such a downtime since "Super November", an event that is in and of itself a sign of oversaturation.
It isn't "that simple" at all, and if you attempt to say it is without any evidence whatsoever is just silly. It IS just my opinion. But viewer numbers have been dropping steadily since launch, right? That's a fact. It's just my opinion on why people are getting bored with watching the game, that's all. You could argue it's due to over-saturation, but I'd argue back that it's because the games aren't good enough to hold viewers interests across so many different events. I'm speaking from my own experience as well. I used to follow SC2 extremely hardcore and slowly I got more and more bored with the games. We just don't get nearly as many awesome games as we got from BW or TFT. There have obviously been some classics (gumiho vs mma and scfou vs nestea come to mind), but the amount of these epic games is incredibly small compared to previous Blizzard efforts. Viewers dropping since launch isn't a fact at all. At launch we had nowhere near the steadily increasing amount of viewers we have at the moment. There seems to be so many random, uninformed forum goers like yourself who state untrue things as facts to try and convince people that the bubble has burst. Have some proof? I'm just going by what I see from stream numbers. On Twitch SC2 hovers around 8k to 15k viewers these days. That used to be way higher. Players like Idra used to get 16-20k viewers, now he probably averages like 4k? By all means correct me if I'm wrong. When you couple that with how much doom and gloom has been going around these forums, plus all the team closures and player retirements, well you can't blame me for coming to that conclusion. Who cares how many views player streams are getting? It used to be pretty rare for Idra to stream, now it's most days. The important figure is tournament viewership, which has been rising. Also, the player retirements were bound to happen eventually, because of over saturation. There haven't even been that many team closures, some teams have had to scale back due to their players not getting results but that is irrelevant to how well SC2 is doing. If tournament views are rising then why is IPL in trouble? Can you show this proof or you're just making stuff up? You're just speculating that IPL is in trouble, while entire case is about ZD wanna cut the entire IGN network down, does that mean 1UP, gamespy and UGO are "in trouble" before they are shut down? The truth is 1UP and gamespy remains as some of the best video gaming site in the world. They are shut down because they overlap with IGN a lot and ZD want more focus. IPL costs a lot money to run, yet have you heard of financial difficulties of IPL? You heard prize money disputes about ESL a lot, while for IPL they are healthy, that for me, is an obvious sign that an organization is running well. I don't follow Gamespy or 1UP, so I have no idea if they're any good or not. I do follow gamespot and ign however. I imagine you don't cut profitable assets of your business, though. There're are many reasons why an organization would cut its department. If that specific department does not fit a long term goal, then it's not abnormal for the organization to sell a department that makes money and try to make a short-mid term profit from it for the reorganization. If IGN wants to focus being a media, not events organizer, then selling IPL makes a lot of senses as they could possibly profit from it and use the money they get to restructure and improve on the other area they need in their plan. So you're saying they want to get rid of IPL because they want to focus on media instead of organizing events. So why did they pick up IPL in the first place? If it was profitable enough then they wouldn't want to get rid of it. Right now there are only 440 viewers for IGNProLeague. Is that enough to sustain the organization? I think not....
The IPL stream is on all the time showing reruns of past events, because they see no reason to to have it on. It is like reruns of Mash, which I am sure get enough viewers to make it worth showing reruns of an old show. People need to stop trying to use stream numbers to prove anything. It is incomplete information and does not provide a full picture of what is going on in any way.
IGN is still owned by New Corp, who was trying to sell it off last year. They are scaling down and refocusing. IGN created IPL when SC2 started to become big. However, in the past two years the IGN has changed and Newcorp has been shopping them around. They likely have less of a budget and are becomming leaner and meaner.
And just because something is profitable does not mean that you wouldn't want to sell it. Some companys are founded on the concept of making a profit and then selling off the company. In fact, if IPL was not profitable, no one would buy it.
We know nothing, stop trying to prove your points by pointing at the view numbers for a rerun on Twitch.TV.
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On February 23 2013 07:00 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 06:49 Veldril wrote:On February 23 2013 05:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 05:04 digmouse wrote:On February 23 2013 04:48 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:46 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:40 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:35 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:31 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:20 Wingblade wrote:
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This is such an obnoxious and abstract post that it's impossible to disprove. How can you honestly say that SC2 games simply aren't interesting enough with anything other than your opinion. The SC2 is way over saturated is a much bigger issue, plus these last three months have been such a downtime since "Super November", an event that is in and of itself a sign of oversaturation.
It isn't "that simple" at all, and if you attempt to say it is without any evidence whatsoever is just silly. It IS just my opinion. But viewer numbers have been dropping steadily since launch, right? That's a fact. It's just my opinion on why people are getting bored with watching the game, that's all. You could argue it's due to over-saturation, but I'd argue back that it's because the games aren't good enough to hold viewers interests across so many different events. I'm speaking from my own experience as well. I used to follow SC2 extremely hardcore and slowly I got more and more bored with the games. We just don't get nearly as many awesome games as we got from BW or TFT. There have obviously been some classics (gumiho vs mma and scfou vs nestea come to mind), but the amount of these epic games is incredibly small compared to previous Blizzard efforts. Viewers dropping since launch isn't a fact at all. At launch we had nowhere near the steadily increasing amount of viewers we have at the moment. There seems to be so many random, uninformed forum goers like yourself who state untrue things as facts to try and convince people that the bubble has burst. Have some proof? I'm just going by what I see from stream numbers. On Twitch SC2 hovers around 8k to 15k viewers these days. That used to be way higher. Players like Idra used to get 16-20k viewers, now he probably averages like 4k? By all means correct me if I'm wrong. When you couple that with how much doom and gloom has been going around these forums, plus all the team closures and player retirements, well you can't blame me for coming to that conclusion. Who cares how many views player streams are getting? It used to be pretty rare for Idra to stream, now it's most days. The important figure is tournament viewership, which has been rising. Also, the player retirements were bound to happen eventually, because of over saturation. There haven't even been that many team closures, some teams have had to scale back due to their players not getting results but that is irrelevant to how well SC2 is doing. If tournament views are rising then why is IPL in trouble? Can you show this proof or you're just making stuff up? You're just speculating that IPL is in trouble, while entire case is about ZD wanna cut the entire IGN network down, does that mean 1UP, gamespy and UGO are "in trouble" before they are shut down? The truth is 1UP and gamespy remains as some of the best video gaming site in the world. They are shut down because they overlap with IGN a lot and ZD want more focus. IPL costs a lot money to run, yet have you heard of financial difficulties of IPL? You heard prize money disputes about ESL a lot, while for IPL they are healthy, that for me, is an obvious sign that an organization is running well. I don't follow Gamespy or 1UP, so I have no idea if they're any good or not. I do follow gamespot and ign however. I imagine you don't cut profitable assets of your business, though. There're are many reasons why an organization would cut its department. If that specific department does not fit a long term goal, then it's not abnormal for the organization to sell a department that makes money and try to make a short-mid term profit from it for the reorganization. If IGN wants to focus being a media, not events organizer, then selling IPL makes a lot of senses as they could possibly profit from it and use the money they get to restructure and improve on the other area they need in their plan. So you're saying they want to get rid of IPL because they want to focus on media instead of organizing events. So why did they pick up IPL in the first place? If it was profitable enough then they wouldn't want to get rid of it. Right now there are only 440 viewers for IGNProLeague. Is that enough to sustain the organization? I think not....
They picked it up in the first place to try and drive more views towards the IGN website. Also, it makes literally no difference how many viewers that stream has as I believe it's essentially 24 hour broadcasts/rebroadcasts.
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On February 23 2013 07:16 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 07:00 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 06:49 Veldril wrote:On February 23 2013 05:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 05:04 digmouse wrote:On February 23 2013 04:48 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:46 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:40 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:35 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:31 AnomalySC2 wrote:
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It IS just my opinion. But viewer numbers have been dropping steadily since launch, right? That's a fact. It's just my opinion on why people are getting bored with watching the game, that's all. You could argue it's due to over-saturation, but I'd argue back that it's because the games aren't good enough to hold viewers interests across so many different events.
I'm speaking from my own experience as well. I used to follow SC2 extremely hardcore and slowly I got more and more bored with the games. We just don't get nearly as many awesome games as we got from BW or TFT. There have obviously been some classics (gumiho vs mma and scfou vs nestea come to mind), but the amount of these epic games is incredibly small compared to previous Blizzard efforts. Viewers dropping since launch isn't a fact at all. At launch we had nowhere near the steadily increasing amount of viewers we have at the moment. There seems to be so many random, uninformed forum goers like yourself who state untrue things as facts to try and convince people that the bubble has burst. Have some proof? I'm just going by what I see from stream numbers. On Twitch SC2 hovers around 8k to 15k viewers these days. That used to be way higher. Players like Idra used to get 16-20k viewers, now he probably averages like 4k? By all means correct me if I'm wrong. When you couple that with how much doom and gloom has been going around these forums, plus all the team closures and player retirements, well you can't blame me for coming to that conclusion. Who cares how many views player streams are getting? It used to be pretty rare for Idra to stream, now it's most days. The important figure is tournament viewership, which has been rising. Also, the player retirements were bound to happen eventually, because of over saturation. There haven't even been that many team closures, some teams have had to scale back due to their players not getting results but that is irrelevant to how well SC2 is doing. If tournament views are rising then why is IPL in trouble? Can you show this proof or you're just making stuff up? You're just speculating that IPL is in trouble, while entire case is about ZD wanna cut the entire IGN network down, does that mean 1UP, gamespy and UGO are "in trouble" before they are shut down? The truth is 1UP and gamespy remains as some of the best video gaming site in the world. They are shut down because they overlap with IGN a lot and ZD want more focus. IPL costs a lot money to run, yet have you heard of financial difficulties of IPL? You heard prize money disputes about ESL a lot, while for IPL they are healthy, that for me, is an obvious sign that an organization is running well. I don't follow Gamespy or 1UP, so I have no idea if they're any good or not. I do follow gamespot and ign however. I imagine you don't cut profitable assets of your business, though. There're are many reasons why an organization would cut its department. If that specific department does not fit a long term goal, then it's not abnormal for the organization to sell a department that makes money and try to make a short-mid term profit from it for the reorganization. If IGN wants to focus being a media, not events organizer, then selling IPL makes a lot of senses as they could possibly profit from it and use the money they get to restructure and improve on the other area they need in their plan. So you're saying they want to get rid of IPL because they want to focus on media instead of organizing events. So why did they pick up IPL in the first place? If it was profitable enough then they wouldn't want to get rid of it. Right now there are only 440 viewers for IGNProLeague. Is that enough to sustain the organization? I think not.... The IPL stream is on all the time showing reruns of past events, because they see no reason to to have it on. It is like reruns of Mash, which I am sure get enough viewers to make it worth showing reruns of an old show. People need to stop trying to use stream numbers to prove anything. It is incomplete information and does not provide a full picture of what is going on in any way. IGN is still owned by New Corp, who was trying to sell it off last year. They are scaling down and refocusing. IGN created IPL when SC2 started to become big. However, in the past two years the IGN has changed and Newcorp has been shopping them around. They likely have less of a budget and are becomming leaner and meaner. And just because something is profitable does not mean that you wouldn't want to sell it. Some companys are founded on the concept of making a profit and then selling off the company. In fact, if IPL was not profitable, no one would buy it. We know nothing, stop trying to prove your points by pointing at the view numbers for a rerun on Twitch.TV.
IGN is no longer owned by NewsCorp.
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On February 23 2013 02:05 CatsPajamas wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 01:21 T.O.P. wrote:On February 22 2013 23:39 Doodsmack wrote:
OP needs to add catspajamas' post to the OP because people are still just assuming IPL is going to die lol. Catspajamas isn't management. He doesn't make the decisions. He's gonna keep producing content until management tells him they're moving in another direction. I think IPL will continue to run until they exhausted their search for a buyer. Sorry, but you're dead wrong. I am management (and the 4th longest tenured employee at the IPL) and have known about this for weeks. :D We'll be letting everyone know more soon. The continued speculation in this thread is fun, guys, but hold on to your hats and you'll know more about our situation as soon as possible.
What I mean by management is the executives on the Ziff Davis side though. You can't be the one who decided that it would be a good idea to sell IPL off.
David Ting speaks:
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On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ..
Those people are awesome because they say The sky is falling" over and over the instant some sort of mildly bad news comes out. Then people directly involved with the new say "No, its not bad at all, we are fine and will have some updates shortly. Hang in there folks, its going to be great" and they keep going. If you confront them with that informtion, they just scream "OF COURSE HE WOULD SAY THAT, WHAT ELSE IS HE GOING TO SAY?!?! THATS WHY SC2 IS GOING TO DIE". And then, after they, they point to Twitch numbers, because they have no other facts and those are right there.
And so life goes. There are people who just love to make it seem like everything is bad. I like TL, but there is part of me that wished there was another community site that was less tolerant of people just screaming the that everything is bad, even when the source of the negativity is just coming from within the same group of people.
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On February 23 2013 07:18 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 07:16 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 07:00 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 06:49 Veldril wrote:On February 23 2013 05:08 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 05:04 digmouse wrote:On February 23 2013 04:48 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:46 kollin wrote:On February 23 2013 04:40 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 04:35 kollin wrote:
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Viewers dropping since launch isn't a fact at all. At launch we had nowhere near the steadily increasing amount of viewers we have at the moment. There seems to be so many random, uninformed forum goers like yourself who state untrue things as facts to try and convince people that the bubble has burst.
Have some proof? I'm just going by what I see from stream numbers. On Twitch SC2 hovers around 8k to 15k viewers these days. That used to be way higher. Players like Idra used to get 16-20k viewers, now he probably averages like 4k? By all means correct me if I'm wrong. When you couple that with how much doom and gloom has been going around these forums, plus all the team closures and player retirements, well you can't blame me for coming to that conclusion. Who cares how many views player streams are getting? It used to be pretty rare for Idra to stream, now it's most days. The important figure is tournament viewership, which has been rising. Also, the player retirements were bound to happen eventually, because of over saturation. There haven't even been that many team closures, some teams have had to scale back due to their players not getting results but that is irrelevant to how well SC2 is doing. If tournament views are rising then why is IPL in trouble? Can you show this proof or you're just making stuff up? You're just speculating that IPL is in trouble, while entire case is about ZD wanna cut the entire IGN network down, does that mean 1UP, gamespy and UGO are "in trouble" before they are shut down? The truth is 1UP and gamespy remains as some of the best video gaming site in the world. They are shut down because they overlap with IGN a lot and ZD want more focus. IPL costs a lot money to run, yet have you heard of financial difficulties of IPL? You heard prize money disputes about ESL a lot, while for IPL they are healthy, that for me, is an obvious sign that an organization is running well. I don't follow Gamespy or 1UP, so I have no idea if they're any good or not. I do follow gamespot and ign however. I imagine you don't cut profitable assets of your business, though. There're are many reasons why an organization would cut its department. If that specific department does not fit a long term goal, then it's not abnormal for the organization to sell a department that makes money and try to make a short-mid term profit from it for the reorganization. If IGN wants to focus being a media, not events organizer, then selling IPL makes a lot of senses as they could possibly profit from it and use the money they get to restructure and improve on the other area they need in their plan. So you're saying they want to get rid of IPL because they want to focus on media instead of organizing events. So why did they pick up IPL in the first place? If it was profitable enough then they wouldn't want to get rid of it. Right now there are only 440 viewers for IGNProLeague. Is that enough to sustain the organization? I think not.... The IPL stream is on all the time showing reruns of past events, because they see no reason to to have it on. It is like reruns of Mash, which I am sure get enough viewers to make it worth showing reruns of an old show. People need to stop trying to use stream numbers to prove anything. It is incomplete information and does not provide a full picture of what is going on in any way. IGN is still owned by New Corp, who was trying to sell it off last year. They are scaling down and refocusing. IGN created IPL when SC2 started to become big. However, in the past two years the IGN has changed and Newcorp has been shopping them around. They likely have less of a budget and are becomming leaner and meaner. And just because something is profitable does not mean that you wouldn't want to sell it. Some companys are founded on the concept of making a profit and then selling off the company. In fact, if IPL was not profitable, no one would buy it. We know nothing, stop trying to prove your points by pointing at the view numbers for a rerun on Twitch.TV. IGN is no longer owned by NewsCorp.
Ah, well there we go and they wanted to be free of the chains for a while. Well, even then, the selling of IPL has nothing to do with the success or failure of IPL. IGN is going through its own stuff and people need to not try to connect it to the SC2 is dying BS.
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Very interested to see where this will go, could be a game changer!
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On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ..
IMO those people need to be banned. I think the rules need to be adjusted to cover people who just bring the community down for no reason.
JimmyRaynor's response to CatsPajamas where he presumes to tell him he knows more about IGN's finances and motives is fucking mind-blowingly stupid.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ..
The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2.
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On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2.
So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all.
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On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2.
In every way. I amazes me how much influence he has. Then I remember that he is the internet version of that 28 year old guy who hangs out with highschool kids and I totally understand.
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Norway25712 Posts
On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all.
But it is the community. The SC2 community has this remarkable ability to turn a tiny spark into a full-fledged forest fire because sparks aren't fun to watch.
You do know IGN shut down Gamespy as well? It really is because they want to focus and centralize instead of being spread out so much.
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On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all.
But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again.
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On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all.
IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head.
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On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head.
NOOOOO!!! THE WORLD IS ENDING!!! HOTS IS CANCELED!!!!!! Don't you understand, that is what they want to believe. They are shutting down, but they are going to do a kickstarter first, to steal all your money. Then they will all switch and become a full time LoL league and feature CoD.
#savehots
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On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head.
What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post.
On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again.
Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess.
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On February 23 2013 08:56 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:42 Wingblade wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. IPL IS NOT SHUTTING DOWN. The OP of the thread implies it, and multiple well-known people within IPL explicitly say it. They are not closing. Get it through your head. What about the word "possibly" do you not get? Reread my post. Show nested quote +On February 23 2013 08:38 Plansix wrote:On February 23 2013 08:30 AnomalySC2 wrote:On February 23 2013 08:19 Fusilero wrote:On February 23 2013 07:11 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Man I'm on this site since a long, long time and it's always been quite negative, but the mood that is the SC2-"Community" is just sad and depressing.
Glad I'm not a part of it anymore whatsoever.
Look at yourselves guys, what the fuck.
There's people telling you, hey, we're all good 'n yet you ride the "EVERYTHINGS CRASHIN' 'N' BURNIN"-train for no apparent reason... jesus christ.. The destiny post is legitimately the single worst thing to ever happen to SC2. So shovel the blame all onto him then, eh? He totally had no reason to believe in the stuff he said in that post, it's all his fault. As I pointed out earlier, it's certainly not unreasonable at all to get this vibe that SC2 is falling apart. There is a lot of negative news going around, and it's not just the community. IPL possibly shutting its doors is certainly not helping the situation at all. But is has nothing to do with SC2 at all, in any way. I could say that video games are a whole are falling apart because of all the news about closing studios, Iphones and other stuff and find tons of "evidence" to back up my claim. But it is simply not true. Businesses close, things change, people get fired and every time it happens people do not need to act like the sky is falling. This has all happened before and it will all happen again. Well I hope you're right. We will see I guess.
You know nothing about what's going to happen to IPL or SC2, because you don't have enough information at your disposal. The fact that you've blurted out such silly evidence in this thread ("IdrA got 20k viewers once herp derp", "IGN stream has 400 viewers right now") just makes it painfully obvious that you don't have enough information. Please stop speculating that IPL and SC2 might die, and wait until you have enough information to do more than throw guesses out.
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Its almost as if people want sc2 to die and in effect make it a self fulfilling prophecy. Play the game for love of the game, watch the game to see where the game is headed, and support the events that bring you the best entertainment. No need to bring so much negativity.
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