[Story spoilers!!] Heart of the HOTS - Page 15

On March 13 2013 13:08 xDaunt wrote:
The HOTS story is like a palatable B-movie until you remember from SC/BW that the Zerg and Kerrigan are supposed to be the ultimate bad guys.

On March 13 2013 13:13 Slaughter wrote:


Eh she was bitter and fighting a bitter free for all type battle. Once she was rehumanized (that is the worst part of it imo so thats all on WoL) the HotS progression of her character isn't that unrealistic/bad.

On March 13 2013 13:05 Slaughter wrote:


She really isn't placed into a good guy role. She is more taken out of her pure villain role and placed more towards neutrality. Won't do bad shit for shits and giggles but still will do them when they are necessary to her goals. She is more powerful then her original form but she has more....humanity? I guess. They did say that the whole swarm was purified of the Amon taint so maybe that had to do something with it as even her minions weren't quite as blood thirsty and were more inclined to learn as they gained greater cognitive power.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the third installment since its "the Protoss expansion" but obviously the Zerg will be huge part of it (Terran are kinda in disarray atm but Raynor sure as hell will do something). Is this the last expansion or will there be another "all races v Big Bad Evil God" type?



I think they have laid some setup to where its possible for this ending if they want to heh. I mean they already have had several interactions between Kerrigan and Zagara about her wanting to lead. All she needs is to learn more (and Kerrigan made them all smarter) so who is to say some good Xel Naga guys come right at the end after the baddie is destroyed and says "Oh Hai guys thanks for killing Amon, dude was a dick. Btw you want us to remove the Zerg part of yourself so you can be human again? Its the least we could do since we didn't help out in the final battle LOL"

On March 13 2013 13:45 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Is it just me that WANTS Kerrigan to end up as the good guy and with Jim? Or does everyone else want her surfing Mutalisks through space tearing up planets by coughing in that direction?

On March 13 2013 15:05 Swords wrote:
A lot of these posts seem very focused on "good" vs. "bad" which obviously makes sense in terms of storytelling. That being said, one of the interesting things to me about SC/BW was there was often the sense that nobody was just good and nobody was just bad. The characters frequently do what's best for their survival or their race's survival - and oftentimes this means taking actions that are wrong or appear evil. In the meantime you have Duran slinking around in the background manipulating the various factions to some unidentified end goal. Alliances frequently change - Raynor/Mengsk, the Dark Templar and Tassadar, Kerrigan/Zeratul, etc.

I think this is part of why people are dissatisfied with SC2 storylines - the focus isn't on the faction/race, it's on very specific characters. WoL isn't the "Terran Campaign" it's the Raynor Campaign. Likewise HoTS is the Kerrigan Campaign instead of the Zerg Campaign. SC2 tells the story of what happens to 3 specific characters from the first game (with some Mengsk/Duran/etc, but not much).

I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing - it's simply a different way to tell a story. I do think a lot of people miss the unique way SC/BW was told though. It played out like a historical document to some extent - and you got to watch each move a variety of political players made, and see how each move played out through your actions in controlling each various faction.

On March 13 2013 16:17 MrRicewife wrote:
OK the attack on Koral... WTF no drop pods surviving, yet Kerrigans lands np.. come onn

On March 13 2013 16:43 Fen1kz wrote:
does anyone has a real (no joke) idea - why AAA title have this awful childish plot? Im really interested, what happened with metzen? or (im not sarcasic) maybe they said in an interview that sc2 singleplayer will be for 10 year old kids?

On March 13 2013 17:33 dudeman001 wrote:
Clicking on Izsha. I wanted to get through every single bit of story that I could, but I really just hated having to click on her. It feels like she's a useless character to me, and something about her just bugged me.

On March 13 2013 17:31 Seam wrote:
So uhm. Just finished and was wanting to say how I actually really really enjoyed the story telling and character development...

But I guess I'm alone there...

On March 13 2013 15:52 abominare wrote:


Raynor has always been the good guy. Even as a former criminal, SC1 always made it a point to try to play it off as some playful wild west shenanigan where he did some sort of robin hood crime. Hes always been played out as the likeable character and the only one who retains his humanity.

The blurring of morality for the races as a whole made for interesting story telling. It was basically a prototype game of thrones, a story about a bunch of really shitty people who shouldn't be in control of the universe but are. Jimmy is like Jon Snow, the guy everyone likes and actually should be in charge of the show but never will.

Unfortunately Chris Metzen is an actual being, who loves the M Night Shamelon twist of "wait the bad guys ARE the good guys!". Thus we get Kerrigan the savior of the universe from kooky zel naga hermit who lives in a black hole.

Jim's character was salvageable from WoL, he had fallen back to the naivety that had allowed Kerrigan to be betrayed and sacrificed everything at the chance to save her and right his wrongs in supporting mengsk. Him showing up at the end firmly ruined his character as a whole. Why?

Lets remember Jim's first mission ever in SC, he risks life and limb to save of a bunch of civies that everyone else has written off because they are so meaningless in the eyes of the power hungry tyrants running the show. In fact he aligns with Mengsk because he naively thinks that the man can make a difference and cares for the people. Mengsk turns out to be just a shitty of a person as the last ruler and betrays him and kerry sending jim into a spiral. From a story telling perspective, SC:BW is the low point, the great adversity that weighs heavily on the hero in an epic. He makes some bad calls and has to take some bad short term alliances and eventually fully cements himself in his role, its his job to put down his former lover kerrigan.

I mean fuck this is a really sad god damn story. Dude fights for the good of people, gets betrayed by the man he puts his faith in and has to watch his lover be corrupted and turned into a monster as a result of his good success in helping megnsk. In the end she even continues to betray him and he watches the rest of his friends die for it.

Then SC2 happens and we get told theres a space baddy who live in black hole who is now really the bad guy. Jim gets to save kerry but then she has to transform back and keep killing innocents by the tens of millions, or do we just have to assume that every marine is a card carrying SS member and all the planets and major capitals she torches were evacced the week before. Now Jim who chastises her about her butcherings shows up at the end to help commit a giant atrocitiy to get to one man, keep in mind shes a god damn ghost who specialize in covert assassinations not involving giant wars. Then he gives her basically the thumbs off as she reveals that she can actually fly (THEN WHY FIGHT THROUGH THE GOD DAMN ELEVATOR) and smiles as she continues her complete lust of power and murder.

I'd been happier if we had ditched this Amon zel naga space jesus story and continued this as a tragedy where raynor's misplaced trust leaves him as a broken man who eventually has to own up and put down the monsters he put into power/create. Thats an interesting story to me.