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dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 14:12:52
March 12 2013 14:11 GMT
#261
On February 20 2013 03:52 Plexa wrote:
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Campaign ending on Korhal makes the 'leaked' ending more plausible .... oh god



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Exactly what I was thinking about..and the words seem to match the video,storming the gates, killing mengsk, while raynor joins forces with kerrigan.


Edit: lol didnt know this thread was months old...and also didnt realize that people have alreay beat the game :p
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12782 Posts
March 12 2013 14:15 GMT
#262
I must be one of the few that prefers sc2 than sc1 story telling.
I thought the characters were way too one dimensional in sc1 the way they presented them

I think the hots was overall not bad, it was really interesting to see so many sides of the zerg.
some parts felt too short but overall not bad and not enough toss in it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland229 Posts
March 12 2013 14:46 GMT
#263
Campaign was fun, but what I dislike the most was...
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... that very little important stuff happened.
Summarize of Hots:
- Kerrigan becomes human, but keeps Zerg power. Dominium attack secret Umojan Lab, where She is;
- Jim dissapears, probably dead;
- Kerrigan goes to Char to regain power;
- Kerrigan goes to Zerus (Zerg Homeworld) to regain true power;
- Kerrigan learns truth about Xel'Naga on Skygeir Platform
- Kerrigan invades Korhal and kill Mengs (Raynor alive!)

Thats everything that happened worth mentioning. Try to summarize BW in six points. BW had so much more story development that it makes me said

But as I said, campaig was fun.
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
March 12 2013 14:54 GMT
#264
I like BW because everyone has their own agenda and backstab everyone else

What a good story . Maybe because back then it is just text and voice recording, it feels a lot longer.

I am play HOTS right now. Story seems ok though i saw all the cinematic already. Though really looking forward to Void and see how the story ends.
Big Red Dog!
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
March 12 2013 15:23 GMT
#265
I like shiny shit as much as the next guy, probably more. I'll be 100%'ing these achievements just like WoL (except for the 800 FFA's. Fuck. That. Shit.)
The universe created an audience for itself.
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 15:47:34
March 12 2013 15:47 GMT
#266
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Did Jim actually die? They can't kill off Jim! Especially in such a discarded way like that... :/
EG<3
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#267
On March 13 2013 00:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
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Did Jim actually die? They can't kill off Jim! Especially in such a discarded way like that... :/

No, he shows up at the ending again
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 17:52:44
March 12 2013 17:40 GMT
#268
On March 10 2013 22:15 paralleluniverse wrote:
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On February 28 2013 00:52 Denda Reloaded wrote:
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@Existor maybe something to support your theory

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Oh Arcturus, this isn't #vengeance, this is justice #lol


Oh god.

Now that we know the leaked ending is real, we have absolute proof that Blizzard writers are amateurs. As you've pointed out, the ending cinematic contains some of the the cheesiest dialogue ever written. It's just awful. High school students could do better.

Oh, thank god they remove the "THIS IS JUSTICE!" line.

The leaked cinematic is one of the worse and cheesiest endings I've ever seen. Even in the context of playing the entire campaign, had that ending been put into the game it would have destroyed whatever creditability Blizzard's story department had left.

But, I'm so glad that it got leaked because that seems to have motivated them to change some of the worse parts of the cinematic. The "THIS IS JUSTICE" line is gone. And they removed the Disneyesque speech at the end where the zerg are now the good guys, replacing it with a brooding preview about what's to come in LotV -- a showdown with the Dark Voice, Amon. Also, Mengsk's switch being connected to the Artifact (last seen in the possession of Nurad in the book) instead of some unknown girl in a water tank makes a lot more sense.

I prepared for the most poorly executed ending ever, but with the changes they've made I was thoroughly surprised and very satisfied with the ending. It was a well made ending.

Disaster averted.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32751 Posts
March 12 2013 17:46 GMT
#269
On March 12 2013 15:11 Plexa wrote:
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On March 12 2013 10:28 Serpico wrote:
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LOTV has far too much content to cover for it to be even decent. Either they rush through all the plot threads sloppily or pick one thing and go with it. ignoring the rest. There isn't enough room in twenty missions for enough exposition/development/progress or whatever to make things feel paced appropriately with how much is left on the table unfinished. I feel like SC 3 is there for the rest. I wish I didn't have to say I'm glad I didn't buy it, but I am.

Well regarding SC3....
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I'm pretty sure Stukov was there to give them a nice tie in for SC3 - notice how he was so hung up on Earth and Kerrigan tells him that "Earth will be back". That's sequel setup in my eyes. And tbh, I would welcome Earth coming back - at least its not a xelnaga god rofl

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If the UED does return, all the campaign missions in SC3 will be XvT, and I'm not sure how many people will be happy with that. But at least they aren't just having the UED storyline finish without a road to follow.


From watching people stream the campaign, the story does seem pretty interesting, albeit typical in some ways. I liked how it expanded on the history of the Zerg greatly, and expanded on the Xel'Naga storyline greatly, and actually gave a real idea of who the villain is. The ending was decent actually, better than the original one they tried to attempt. I guess having it leaked gave Blizzard the opportunity to receive criticism and work around the mistakes.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
March 12 2013 18:21 GMT
#270
On March 13 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
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On March 13 2013 00:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
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Did Jim actually die? They can't kill off Jim! Especially in such a discarded way like that... :/

No, he shows up at the ending again


Oh my god thank you <3 I would hate what I said to happen.
EG<3
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 12 2013 18:48 GMT
#271
http://xkcd.com/813/

i think this is an apt summary of what goes on in HOTS cinematics
Cinbri
Profile Joined February 2013
Russian Federation3 Posts
March 12 2013 19:30 GMT
#272
So, how Stukov was infested once again? He still the smartest - understood the true meaning of artifact while knowing about how kerrigan was cured.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
March 12 2013 19:42 GMT
#273
If the UED does return, all the campaign missions in SC3 will be XvT, and I'm not sure how many people will be happy with that. But at least they aren't just having the UED storyline finish without a road to follow.

UED can be highlighted as completely new campaign faction with their buildings and units. Like Naga in WC3.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
March 12 2013 19:45 GMT
#274
On March 13 2013 03:21 LOLItsRyann wrote:
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On March 13 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On March 13 2013 00:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
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Did Jim actually die? They can't kill off Jim! Especially in such a discarded way like that... :/

No, he shows up at the ending again


Oh my god thank you <3 I would hate what I said to happen.


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It was so obvious he wasn't dead. Blizzard isn't killing off a major character on the side like that. If Mengsk actually killed him he would've shown it to the public.
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
March 13 2013 00:13 GMT
#275
I don't really have a problem with the Raynor/Kerrigan romance line, but I did have a problem with a few thigns

1. Inconsistency with with Kerrigans character. They show her at times feeling remorse and sometimes just sparing innocents. Yet during some missions she needlessly kills innocents without feeling anything (i.e. the evolve missions where they just slaughter random protoss)

2. How stupid are bad guys seriously? Mengsk and Warhound both said like "U're gonna die (basically)" probably 20x throughout the entire campaign, even when Kerrigan was breaking down their front door. Also their strategies just sucked, I mean I know Kerrigan has to win at the end but an 8 year old playing risk make better battlefield commanders than those guys

3. The script. "We what do we now my queen?" "We kill them all" ... *facepalm*
YOLO
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 00:44:48
March 13 2013 00:32 GMT
#276
On March 13 2013 09:13 BigAsia wrote:
I don't really have a problem with the Raynor/Kerrigan romance line, but I did have a problem with a few thigns

1. Inconsistency with with Kerrigans character. They show her at times feeling remorse and sometimes just sparing innocents. Yet during some missions she needlessly kills innocents without feeling anything (i.e. the evolve missions where they just slaughter random protoss)

2. How stupid are bad guys seriously? Mengsk and Warhound both said like "U're gonna die (basically)" probably 20x throughout the entire campaign, even when Kerrigan was breaking down their front door. Also their strategies just sucked, I mean I know Kerrigan has to win at the end but an 8 year old playing risk make better battlefield commanders than those guys

3. The script. "We what do we now my queen?" "We kill them all" ... *facepalm*


The worst part for me was the Prison Break mission. I'm supposed to break people out of a prison , and the game tells me to do so i should to infest other prisoners ? WTF ? I was like fuck no and just made it without using it because it just didn't fit at all. + Show Spoiler +
especially when Valarian and Horner just kinda nodded .
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
March 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#277
On March 13 2013 04:45 s3rp wrote:
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On March 13 2013 03:21 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On March 13 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On March 13 2013 00:47 LOLItsRyann wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Did Jim actually die? They can't kill off Jim! Especially in such a discarded way like that... :/

No, he shows up at the ending again


Oh my god thank you <3 I would hate what I said to happen.


+ Show Spoiler +
It was so obvious he wasn't dead. Blizzard isn't killing off a major character on the side like that. If Mengsk actually killed him he would've shown it to the public.


+ Show Spoiler +
I did think of that myself too. I just had to be sure. :D
EG<3
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 13 2013 03:21 GMT
#278
jim and sarah too cute

5ever plz
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
March 13 2013 03:38 GMT
#279
On March 13 2013 12:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
jim and sarah too cute

5ever plz


LULZ. I secretly hope this too ^______^
EG<3
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-13 04:10:43
March 13 2013 04:05 GMT
#280
On March 12 2013 23:06 PureLuckz wrote:
I am incredibly disappointed in the story with HoTS and SC2 in general. They really went out of their way to force Kerrigan into a "good guy" role. Yeah she was probably the most popular character in SC and BW, but you know what got her there? She was a badass villain and a bitch, which was pretty unique for a female video game character back then.

Somewhere along the lines they decided that people only liked her because of her ass and then threw in a very cheesy romance plot. The worst part was that they destroyed Raynor's character as well just to get romance into the game. Were they that afraid that no one wants to play the villain in a 3 faction game? Did they not notice how popular Kerrigan got while she was the cruel villain? Did they really have to do all that to the story just to force this cheesy romance plot on us? At the end of the day it's their story, but wow did they drop the ball on it.


She really isn't placed into a good guy role. She is more taken out of her pure villain role and placed more towards neutrality. Won't do bad shit for shits and giggles but still will do them when they are necessary to her goals. She is more powerful then her original form but she has more....humanity? I guess. They did say that the whole swarm was purified of the Amon taint so maybe that had to do something with it as even her minions weren't quite as blood thirsty and were more inclined to learn as they gained greater cognitive power.

It will be interesting to see what they do with the third installment since its "the Protoss expansion" but obviously the Zerg will be huge part of it (Terran are kinda in disarray atm but Raynor sure as hell will do something). Is this the last expansion or will there be another "all races v Big Bad Evil God" type?

On March 13 2013 12:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
jim and sarah too cute

5ever plz


I think they have laid some setup to where its possible for this ending if they want to heh. I mean they already have had several interactions between Kerrigan and Zagara about her wanting to lead. All she needs is to learn more (and Kerrigan made them all smarter) so who is to say some good Xel Naga guys come right at the end after the baddie is destroyed and says "Oh Hai guys thanks for killing Amon, dude was a dick. Btw you want us to remove the Zerg part of yourself so you can be human again? Its the least we could do since we didn't help out in the final battle LOL"
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