i liked the open bracket though :<
hoping this is a one-off thing, but the region format could be really cool for future arena events?
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
i liked the open bracket though :< hoping this is a one-off thing, but the region format could be really cool for future arena events? | ||
Necro)Phagist(
Canada6518 Posts
I can easily see why they wanted to get rid of the open bracket though. That many players and games is just a pain in the ass for players and the organizers and even the caster. This way every match will get broadcasted and the players won't be rushing from match to match in a 12-14 hour sprint for the open bracket days. Single elim = no more retarded extended series etc. All in all I like this by MLG even though as a spectator missing the open bracket kind of sucks but meh. | ||
ineversmile
United States583 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:12 SkaPunk wrote: Don't really want to watch it if there are no open brackets. Agreed. | ||
SkaPunk
United States471 Posts
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:17 AGIANTSMURF wrote: I hope this is a one time thing somehow related to HOTS just being released, Following the open brackets was always my favorite part of the MLG, even if I wasnt participating. I may check this one out, but looking forward to future events with open brackets Probably is because they dont some random guy to win the whole thing by exploiting the unknown of HoTS | ||
avilo
United States4100 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote: We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity. By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct? We can't have that, now can we. This invite only bullshit delegitimizes the tournament quite a bit imo. | ||
sitromit
7051 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote: How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list. regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless. So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?... You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament? Get over yourself... | ||
Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote: We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity. i guess its a shitty situation. you kinda need to do hots. but no open qualification system really destroys the value of the tournament. invites are always random. | ||
edlover420
349 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:21 mrRoflpwn wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 02:17 AGIANTSMURF wrote: I hope this is a one time thing somehow related to HOTS just being released, Following the open brackets was always my favorite part of the MLG, even if I wasnt participating. I may check this one out, but looking forward to future events with open brackets Probably is because they dont want some random guy to win the whole thing by exploiting the unknown of HoTS but that would be so cool... | ||
StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
Nothing against the players, it's just the selection process being MLG-esque, if you did it somewhat after results you could get players who are more competitive than e.g. Ret for example, this way it's just riding fame and rewarding players who were on teams able to send them to MLGs in the previous years, it's like 2011 pool play all over again. I'd rather have the best players right now, not the players who were kinda good early 2012 in the artificial environment MLG created back then. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Of course, I absolutely understand the frustration of not being able to play at all with this being mostly invite-only, but all-in-all this won't make that much of a difference. | ||
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote: We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity. By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct? Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do. | ||
avilo
United States4100 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:24 MLG_Adam wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote: On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote: We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity. By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct? Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do. Why would you care about that? Pretty obvious, if big names are knocked out you guys believe it will hamper your tournament views. Can't have lil ol' johnny ladder knocking out a big name, that would hurt e-sports now wouldn't it! The ironic thing is, I think a lot of people would tune into amazing stories like, "omg did you hear? He beat flash, it was crazy," etc. | ||
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MLG_Adam
United States994 Posts
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:22 sitromit wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote: How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list. regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless. So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?... You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament? Get over yourself... well they claimed based on hots accomplishments, you should read your own post and mine again, as you just said why I laughed at HOTS accomplishments, No one has any, I even said it in my post and people were busy playing WoL, therefore if its based on HOTS accomplishments tons of players are more qualified than every one invited, just the way the world works. Viewers is not about competition, determining the best is competition! not inviting a bunch of players and making a false claim that they have accomplished something in HOTS. On February 01 2013 02:26 MLG_Adam wrote: However, bottom line is we're happy with what we've put together and we look forward to announcing more details around the rest of our plans for 2013. and hopefully they are alot better than this for players like me... Was really looking forward to heading to dallas and other MLG events this year. | ||
Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
edit: Well he placed same as TaeJa I suppose, so sorry - but my point stands. | ||
Eggi
478 Posts
And ontop of that some of these people barely play HoT honestly, go to hell MLG | ||
TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:27 KiF1rE wrote: Show nested quote + On February 01 2013 02:22 sitromit wrote: On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote: How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list. regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless. So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?... You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament? Get over yourself... well they claimed based on hots accomplishments, you should read your own post and mine again, as you just said why I laughed at HOTS accomplishments, No one has any, I even said it in my post and people were busy playing WoL, therefore if its based on HOTS accomplishments tons of players are more qualified than every one invited, just the way the world works. Viewers is not about competition, determining the best is competition! not inviting a bunch of players and making a false claim that they have accomplished something in HOTS. Determining the best? You seriously think you're better than any of the players there? You could practice HotS for 100 years and DRG would beat you the first time he logged on, get over yourself. | ||
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