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Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:31:02
January 31 2013 17:20 GMT
#21
while im not entirely pleased with the invite list, the idea is great.

i liked the open bracket though :<

hoping this is a one-off thing, but the region format could be really cool for future arena events?
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
January 31 2013 17:20 GMT
#22
Not sure about this. The format does sound pretty awesome, but I will miss the open bracket.

I can easily see why they wanted to get rid of the open bracket though. That many players and games is just a pain in the ass for players and the organizers and even the caster. This way every match will get broadcasted and the players won't be rushing from match to match in a 12-14 hour sprint for the open bracket days. Single elim = no more retarded extended series etc.

All in all I like this by MLG even though as a spectator missing the open bracket kind of sucks but meh.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
ineversmile
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States583 Posts
January 31 2013 17:20 GMT
#23
On February 01 2013 02:12 SkaPunk wrote:
Don't really want to watch it if there are no open brackets.


Agreed.
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SkaPunk
Profile Joined October 2010
United States471 Posts
January 31 2013 17:20 GMT
#24
IPL sends my team a personal message inviting us to a competition. MLG becomes invite only for the FIRST tourament of HotS where break out players are even more likely to happen. This is going to great isn't it! At least we don't have to watch new players we don't know.
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#25
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 31 2013 17:21 GMT
#26
On February 01 2013 02:17 AGIANTSMURF wrote:
I hope this is a one time thing somehow related to HOTS just being released, Following the open brackets was always my favorite part of the MLG, even if I wasnt participating.

I may check this one out, but looking forward to future events with open brackets


Probably is because they dont some random guy to win the whole thing by exploiting the unknown of HoTS
Long live the Boss Toss!
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:23:35
January 31 2013 17:22 GMT
#27
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct? We can't have that, now can we.

This invite only bullshit delegitimizes the tournament quite a bit imo.
Sup
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 31 2013 17:22 GMT
#28
On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote:
How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list.

regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless.

So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?...

You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament?

Get over yourself...
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
January 31 2013 17:23 GMT
#29
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


i guess its a shitty situation. you kinda need to do hots. but no open qualification system really destroys the value of the tournament. invites are always random.
edlover420
Profile Joined December 2012
349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:23:35
January 31 2013 17:23 GMT
#30
On February 01 2013 02:21 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:17 AGIANTSMURF wrote:
I hope this is a one time thing somehow related to HOTS just being released, Following the open brackets was always my favorite part of the MLG, even if I wasnt participating.

I may check this one out, but looking forward to future events with open brackets


Probably is because they dont want some random guy to win the whole thing by exploiting the unknown of HoTS


but that would be so cool...
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:26:14
January 31 2013 17:24 GMT
#31
I'm so tired of these kind of things, format is so boring. No open qualifiers kills it for me.

Nothing against the players, it's just the selection process being MLG-esque, if you did it somewhat after results you could get players who are more competitive than e.g. Ret for example, this way it's just riding fame and rewarding players who were on teams able to send them to MLGs in the previous years, it's like 2011 pool play all over again.

I'd rather have the best players right now, not the players who were kinda good early 2012 in the artificial environment MLG created back then.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 31 2013 17:24 GMT
#32
Keep in mind that the whole "no open bracket"-thing is not confirmed for the rest of the year, only the Winter Championhip. And I find it quite amusing how upset some middling foreign players are over this change. The open brackets were mostly slaughterhouses either way, with only top foreigners sometimes breaking through to die in the group stages.
Of course, I absolutely understand the frustration of not being able to play at all with this being mostly invite-only, but all-in-all this won't make that much of a difference.
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 17:24 GMT
#33
On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct?


Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:27:40
January 31 2013 17:26 GMT
#34
On February 01 2013 02:24 MLG_Adam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct?


Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do.


Why would you care about that? Pretty obvious, if big names are knocked out you guys believe it will hamper your tournament views. Can't have lil ol' johnny ladder knocking out a big name, that would hurt e-sports now wouldn't it!

The ironic thing is, I think a lot of people would tune into amazing stories like, "omg did you hear? He beat flash, it was crazy," etc.

Sup
MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 17:26 GMT
#35
However, bottom line is we're happy with what we've put together and we look forward to announcing more details around the rest of our plans for 2013.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:29:29
January 31 2013 17:27 GMT
#36
On February 01 2013 02:22 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote:
How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list.

regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless.

So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?...

You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament?

Get over yourself...


well they claimed based on hots accomplishments, you should read your own post and mine again, as you just said why I laughed at HOTS accomplishments, No one has any, I even said it in my post and people were busy playing WoL, therefore if its based on HOTS accomplishments tons of players are more qualified than every one invited, just the way the world works. Viewers is not about competition, determining the best is competition! not inviting a bunch of players and making a false claim that they have accomplished something in HOTS.


On February 01 2013 02:26 MLG_Adam wrote:
However, bottom line is we're happy with what we've put together and we look forward to announcing more details around the rest of our plans for 2013.



and hopefully they are alot better than this for players like me... Was really looking forward to heading to dallas and other MLG events this year.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:30:06
January 31 2013 17:28 GMT
#37
Kind of sad that HwangSin placed higher than every independent/foreign team Korean invited to the showmatches at last MLG and gets no invite. Pretty clear that this is obviously based on who is the most famous rather than any actual qualifications. Not that those players are undeserving, but...

edit: Well he placed same as TaeJa I suppose, so sorry - but my point stands.
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Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:32:28
January 31 2013 17:28 GMT
#38
Atleast let us vote for players to play in.
And ontop of that some of these people barely play HoT
honestly,
go to hell MLG
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
January 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#39
Very surprising, that there will be no big SC2 tournament and only a small invitational @ MLG Winter.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#40
On February 01 2013 02:27 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:22 sitromit wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote:
How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list.

regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless.

So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?...

You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament?

Get over yourself...


well they claimed based on hots accomplishments, you should read your own post and mine again, as you just said why I laughed at HOTS accomplishments, No one has any, I even said it in my post and people were busy playing WoL, therefore if its based on HOTS accomplishments tons of players are more qualified than every one invited, just the way the world works. Viewers is not about competition, determining the best is competition! not inviting a bunch of players and making a false claim that they have accomplished something in HOTS.


Determining the best? You seriously think you're better than any of the players there? You could practice HotS for 100 years and DRG would beat you the first time he logged on, get over yourself.
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