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abou
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark26 Posts
January 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#41
The European showdown is a pure ZvP massacre!! 6/7 matches are ZvP:

Stephano vs Titan
Nerchio vs BabyKnight
Bly vs Mana
Dimaga vs Grubby
Ret vs Feast
Snute vs Sase

www.sc2replays.dk
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#42
On February 01 2013 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Kind of sad that HwangSin placed higher than every independent/foreign team Korean invited to the showmatches at last MLG and gets no invite. Pretty clear that this is obviously based on who is the most famous rather than any actual qualifications. Not that those players are undeserving, but...

That would be because the way the invite criteria work wasn't event RESULTS, it was event PARTICIPATION. This means that players that might not be placing as HIGHLY as other players get invited simply because the team they play for can afford to send them to more events.
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Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
January 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#43
Scarlett vs Goswser
That is just brutal. the 2 best na players (imo) against each other. I guess you dont want to do a whole lot of qualification matches but at least put each region in a bracket. :/
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 31 2013 17:30 GMT
#44
On February 01 2013 02:26 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:24 MLG_Adam wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct?


Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do.


Why would you care about that? Pretty obvious, if big names are knocked out you guys believe it will hamper your tournament views. Can't have lil ol' johnny ladder knocking out a big name, that would hurt e-sports now wouldn't it!

The ironic thing is, I think a lot of people would tune into amazing stories like, "omg did you hear? He beat flash, it was crazy," etc.



If they don't want unknowns in their Championships, why hasn't the Open Bracket format been removed much earlier? To me, this seems more like a one-off thing based on a variety of factors (with your primary reason being a very minor one) than anything else.
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#45
I'm excited for it. But clearly it will lack fan favorites for sure.
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:34:02
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#46
Sase vs Snute
Parting vs Fantasy

ehh, couldnt be worse :/
I'm getting the derection.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#47
I don't really like this format but i understand why they're doing it and i assume open brackets will be back after this event.
All I do is Stim.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#48
On February 01 2013 02:26 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:24 MLG_Adam wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:22 avilo wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:21 MLG_Adam wrote:
We wanted to have huge open online qualifiers for each region but due to HOTS beta stability we had to run only invitational activity.


By stability, you mean the possibility that top players may be knocked by up and comers, correct?


Why would we care about that? We want aspiration and our track record proves that. There were MANY factors involved around this Dallas event that hampered things we wanted to do.


Why would you care about that? Pretty obvious, if big names are knocked out you guys believe it will hamper your tournament views. Can't have lil ol' johnny ladder knocking out a big name, that would hurt e-sports now wouldn't it!

The ironic thing is, I think a lot of people would tune into amazing stories like, "omg did you hear? He beat flash, it was crazy," etc.


Shouldn't you be busy making a balance whine thread or something? Invite only for an unstable game that's still in beta is more then reasonable... They obviously are aware that up and comers and their open bracket can draw just as many viewers as big names.. They are not retarded.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#49
On February 01 2013 02:27 KiF1rE wrote:
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On February 01 2013 02:22 sitromit wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:16 KiF1rE wrote:
How is the showdown thing based on HOTS accomplishments? How many of those players have won a tournament or broke rank 2 GM in HOTS? As ive done both(granted small tournament but w/e there isnt much atm MLG is the first big event for it lol)... Just seems like claiming " top StarCraft II players in the world based on recent performances playing StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm" is kind of flawed and its just a sheer invitational everyone that's popular or did well in MLG with WoL with that player list.

regardless was expecting for some form of announcement to make up for the lack of open bracket, And as a competitor what is my Gold membership now useful for? As clearly I cant compete or sign up for anything now... making my gold relatively useless.

So because you made GM in a beta where none of the top SC2 players in the world are playing, because, well, it's a friggin beta and they have actual tournaments to play and practice for, you think you deserve to get invited to a tournament with a 25K 1st place prize? Seriously?...

You think the reason this tournament exists, the people who will actually tune in to watch, would rather watch you than DRG or Flash? You think we care whether they ever got GM in HotS, or won a HotS tournament?

Get over yourself...


well they claimed based on hots accomplishments, you should read your own post and mine again, as you just said why I laughed at HOTS accomplishments, No one has any, I even said it in my post and people were busy playing WoL, therefore if its based on HOTS accomplishments tons of players are more qualified than every one invited, just the way the world works. Viewers is not about competition, determining the best is competition! not inviting a bunch of players and making a false claim that they have accomplished something in HOTS.


Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:26 MLG_Adam wrote:
However, bottom line is we're happy with what we've put together and we look forward to announcing more details around the rest of our plans for 2013.



and hopefully they are alot better than this for players like me... Was really looking forward to heading to dallas and other MLG events this year.

I don't think KiF1rE is trying to claim he deserves an invite, rather that their system is rather arbitrary and bullshit.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#50
On February 01 2013 02:17 Gladiator333 wrote:
PartinG vs Fantasy o_O


Teamkill as their first individual match against each other. My heart can't take it. T_T
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rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:33:03
January 31 2013 17:31 GMT
#51
Well, as an one time-only thing, i guess this is OK.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 31 2013 17:32 GMT
#52
On February 01 2013 02:29 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Kind of sad that HwangSin placed higher than every independent/foreign team Korean invited to the showmatches at last MLG and gets no invite. Pretty clear that this is obviously based on who is the most famous rather than any actual qualifications. Not that those players are undeserving, but...

That would be because the way the invite criteria work wasn't event RESULTS, it was event PARTICIPATION. This means that players that might not be placing as HIGHLY as other players get invited simply because the team they play for can afford to send them to more events.

So he went to an arena and three of the four championship events...
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 31 2013 17:32 GMT
#53
On February 01 2013 02:31 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:17 Gladiator333 wrote:
PartinG vs Fantasy o_O


Teamkill as their first individual match against each other. My heart can't take it. T_T


It's more likely to be a teamslaughter than a teamkill though, just saying ^^
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MLG_Adam
Profile Joined July 2010
United States994 Posts
January 31 2013 17:33 GMT
#54
Again. We want aspiration, we want open qualification, we want success stories, how can you say anything different based on our track record?

This event is 3 days after a major content release. Qualification is taking place on BETA servers. We wanted to have open online qualification for this event but it was not a logistical reality.

We are not done announcing 2013 plans. Have faith.
Twitter: MrAdamAp
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:35:46
January 31 2013 17:34 GMT
#55
people should start thinking, before they post any more bullshit here. MLG invited players that are proven through the highest competitions we had so far in SC2. And you want some random ladder dudes being invited or qualified here, because these PRO GAMERS still have their duties in WoL right now and are not playing HotS very much? You really believe the likes of Flash, Parting, Creator, Leenock, Marineking, Life and so on will be worse with HotS? This is an invitational and the reasons for that are very much understandable.
The new comers in HotS will have to wait until the real tournaments kick off and should not whine here.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2013 17:35 GMT
#56
gonna guess...

+ Show Spoiler +
KESPA (5) - 10 KESPA players competing for 5 spots

Parting vs. Fantasy
Rain vs. Flying
Innovation vs. TY
Roro vs. Hero
Soulkey vs. Last

ESF (5) - 10 ESF players competing for 5 spots

DongRaeGu vs. Jjakji
MarineKing vs Gumiho
Mvp vs Curious
Creator vs Nestea
Sniper vs Seed



Independent/Western (3) - 6 Western+ Independent Korean players competing for 3 spots

MC vs Alive
Hero vs Polt
Taeja vs Violet

Too bad there won't be an open bracket because it usually keeps things interesting when someone makes a godly run. :/
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 31 2013 17:36 GMT
#57
On February 01 2013 02:32 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:29 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Kind of sad that HwangSin placed higher than every independent/foreign team Korean invited to the showmatches at last MLG and gets no invite. Pretty clear that this is obviously based on who is the most famous rather than any actual qualifications. Not that those players are undeserving, but...

That would be because the way the invite criteria work wasn't event RESULTS, it was event PARTICIPATION. This means that players that might not be placing as HIGHLY as other players get invited simply because the team they play for can afford to send them to more events.

So he went to an arena and three of the four championship events...

It doesn't matter.

He missed every single European Major that

MC vs Alive
Hero vs Polt
Taeja vs Violet

All 6 of these attended.

To be fair I don't even see why aLive/MC/HerO/TaeJa are even in this category considering they've lived in Korea this whole time to begin with.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
January 31 2013 17:36 GMT
#58
Seems like nobody realizes this is a one time thing because of the transition to HotS. Saying things like "I wont watch because there is no open bracket" is dumb. You watch every other tournament that doesn't have an open bracket. This is an exhibition, not a regular MLG event. It's basically a promotion of HotS with some of the best players in the world in order to hype up the game. MLG Spring will go back to a more standard format I'm sure.
Wahaha
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
January 31 2013 17:36 GMT
#59
Sasquatch is gonna roll HuK ezpz and get to Dallas!
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:38:09
January 31 2013 17:37 GMT
#60
On February 01 2013 02:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 02:32 Pokebunny wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:29 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:28 Pokebunny wrote:
Kind of sad that HwangSin placed higher than every independent/foreign team Korean invited to the showmatches at last MLG and gets no invite. Pretty clear that this is obviously based on who is the most famous rather than any actual qualifications. Not that those players are undeserving, but...

That would be because the way the invite criteria work wasn't event RESULTS, it was event PARTICIPATION. This means that players that might not be placing as HIGHLY as other players get invited simply because the team they play for can afford to send them to more events.

So he went to an arena and three of the four championship events...

It doesn't matter.

He missed every single European Major that

MC vs Alive
Hero vs Polt
Taeja vs Violet

All 6 of these attended.

To be fair I don't even see why aLive/MC/HerO/TaeJa are even in this category considering they've lived in Korea this whole time to begin with.

Because they are in their own category of bringing in views is my guess. They can guarantee 3 western team Koreans to make the event instead of risking 0 by doing just pure korean qualifier games
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