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On February 02 2013 10:03 TeeTS wrote:
I stand mostly behind MLG here. I really appreaciate, that you take this so serious Adam. I honestly think we have a small but very vocal minority here. I think your tournament will be a success despite all the problems you have due to the HotS release date.
A Beta qualification round is allways problematic, since the balance shifts within weeks during a beta. This will create a very random result nontheless.
And MLG is not only about SC2. They set their date and can't just change it, because Blizzard decided to release HotS right before. The solution they made seems to be like the best possible and the players they chosed all very much deserve their spot and most of the SC2 fans will have a lot of fun with your event!
I didn't like the MvP series at all, but this time you did the best you could do in these circumstances.
people against no open brackets are a majority, not a minority. And HotS wont be balanced for the first three to six months anyways
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On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous.
You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair.
Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats?
Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant.
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On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant.
and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people.
MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks.
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On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks.
No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit.
are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think?
there are a lot of people who shares the same frustration with me, believe me, i would love to attend mlg dallas, just tossing out the fact that it's dumb how the decision was made.
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On February 03 2013 02:05 hellokittySC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit. are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think? there are a lot of people who shares the same frustration with me, believe me, i would love to attend mlg dallas, just tossing out the fact that it's dumb how the decision was made. i think assuming an open bracket before it's announced is pretty dumb.
Although i can understand the frustration, blaming mlg only is a bit egocentric.
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On February 03 2013 02:05 hellokittySC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit. are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think?
Never said practicing more would get you an invite, just pointing out that if you feel you're not going to be as good as some of these other guys maybe you should practice more? Do you think Flash and the Kespa guys have been practicing HotS while prepping for pro league and this GSL season? No! Again Invite only is for Dallas because yes the beta server is too unstable to hold open qualifiers.. I've tried reading your argument but you don't seem to have one, all I can gather from it is you being mad because you didn't get an invite.
I'll be angry with them if they stick with the invite only after Dallas yes. but for Dallas it's quite clearly their only option here. They maybe could have given a bit more heads up about it yes. but all in all everything on their part seems extremely reasonable if you'd look at it from their point of view and not be blinded by your own bias.
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On February 03 2013 01:55 Freezd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 10:03 TeeTS wrote:
I stand mostly behind MLG here. I really appreaciate, that you take this so serious Adam. I honestly think we have a small but very vocal minority here. I think your tournament will be a success despite all the problems you have due to the HotS release date.
A Beta qualification round is allways problematic, since the balance shifts within weeks during a beta. This will create a very random result nontheless.
And MLG is not only about SC2. They set their date and can't just change it, because Blizzard decided to release HotS right before. The solution they made seems to be like the best possible and the players they chosed all very much deserve their spot and most of the SC2 fans will have a lot of fun with your event!
I didn't like the MvP series at all, but this time you did the best you could do in these circumstances. people against no open brackets are a majority, not a minority. And HotS wont be balanced for the first three to six months anyways
Everyone wants an open qualifier process, but the majority of the viewers understand why it is difficult to hold a qualifier for HotS when the game is launching 3 days before the even. The people who are complaining and want an open qualifier for the event even with all the problems HotS would bring are the minority. Tens of thousandths of people watch these events and far fewer people are up in arms about the lack of an open bracket.
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56 of the absolute best players in the world playing HotS the weekend after it comes out? Sounds amazing to me. Thanks for the post, Adam.
Plansix being the voice of reason as usual.
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On February 03 2013 02:10 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 02:05 hellokittySC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit. are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think? Never said practicing more would get you an invite, just pointing out that if you feel you're not going to be as good as some of these other guys maybe you should practice more? Do you think Flash and the Kespa guys have been practicing HotS while prepping for pro league and this GSL season? No! Again Invite only is for Dallas because yes the beta server is too unstable to hold open qualifiers.. I've tried reading your argument but you don't seem to have one, all I can gather from it is you being mad because you didn't get an invite. I'll be angry with them if they stick with the invite only after Dallas yes. but for Dallas it's quite clearly their only option here. They maybe could have given a bit more heads up about it yes. but all in all everything on their part seems extremely reasonable if you'd look at it from their point of view and not be blinded by your own bias.
HelloKitty's argument is simple, he is in top GM on the HotS server and wants to play in Dallas. He has beaten a bunch of pro players and wants to hit the mat and see if he can make his mark. His reasoning is entirely self interested and has little to do with the difficulties with running that process. You can't blame him for being upset, but the claims of MLG being unprofessional are totally off the mark. It may not be fair, but no one claimed that the MLG or any event was set up to be fair for everyone. The release date of HotS totally messed with MLG plans and they likely had a do a ton of work just to make sure the event went smoothly. I am sure if they could run an open qualifier, they would.
HelloKitty, if you are still top GM when the next MLG comes around, I am sure people will check to see how you do in the qualifiers.
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On February 03 2013 02:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 02:10 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 03 2013 02:05 hellokittySC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit. are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think? Never said practicing more would get you an invite, just pointing out that if you feel you're not going to be as good as some of these other guys maybe you should practice more? Do you think Flash and the Kespa guys have been practicing HotS while prepping for pro league and this GSL season? No! Again Invite only is for Dallas because yes the beta server is too unstable to hold open qualifiers.. I've tried reading your argument but you don't seem to have one, all I can gather from it is you being mad because you didn't get an invite. I'll be angry with them if they stick with the invite only after Dallas yes. but for Dallas it's quite clearly their only option here. They maybe could have given a bit more heads up about it yes. but all in all everything on their part seems extremely reasonable if you'd look at it from their point of view and not be blinded by your own bias. HelloKitty's argument is simple, he is in top GM on the HotS server and wants to play in Dallas. He has beaten a bunch of pro players and wants to hit the mat and see if he can make his mark. His reasoning is entirely self interested and has little to do with the difficulties with running that process. You can't blame him for being upset, but the claims of MLG being unprofessional are totally off the mark. It may not be fair, but no one claimed that the MLG or any event was set up to be fair for everyone. The release date of HotS totally messed with MLG plans and they likely had a do a ton of work just to make sure the event went smoothly. I am sure if they could run an open qualifier, they would. HelloKitty, if you are still top GM when the next MLG comes around, I am sure people will check to see how you do in the qualifiers.
Most people don't like to support organizations that aren't fair. I'm kinda amazed that you admitted it isn't fair. It's really shooting yourself in the foot. I mean, you can say they're not obligated to be fair, but that's not likely to win them any fans. Personally, I'm significantly less interested in MLG when there's no open bracket. I'll still probably watch some of the bigger games, but the event feels so much less hyped now that there's no chance of someone crushing through the open bracket and doing well. Sure, it's self-interested, but I can't help what I like. Open brackets have always been a draw for me. No open bracket, less interest. You can say all you want about MLG's justification, but the bottom line is that the event is less interesting no matter what the reasoning behind it is.
Also, top GMs on HotS should 100% get invites to this event. It makes absolutely no sense to invite people based solely on WoL achievements considering a lot of players have been practicing HotS only.
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Great lineup of players, cant wait to see what these guys can come up with.
EDIT: wheres TLO and whitera? T.T
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On February 03 2013 04:48 Glorfindel! wrote:
How come no Naniwa?
they said he declined the invite earlier in the thread
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On February 03 2013 02:10 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 02:05 hellokittySC2 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 03 2013 02:02 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 01:58 hellokittySC2 wrote:On February 03 2013 01:55 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 02 2013 21:52 hellokittySC2 wrote:
if this is the way you guys want to run things then fine, don't expect too much support from me in the future for mlg, in fact, i will most likely not attend MLG dallas this time around just because of this unfairness bias towards players who are "less" deserving than you guys. even though I live 3 hours away from dallas, I will not support this bull crap. I'm not whining just because i didn't get an invite, i'm shouting out for the other players who did not get an invite, this is completely bull crap. hope you guys have a better policy next time regarding to fairness of competition, this is outrageous. You are whining and this is not outrageous or bullcrap at all... They've clearly stated that this invite format is only for Dallas due to HotS being in beta. So maybe stop being a baby and actually read what they are saying before condemning it as unfair. Seriously this bandwagon hate is kind of retarded... People aren't even reading what's actually happening here and are just screaming "OMG No OPEN BRACKET, INVITE ONLY MLG SUCKS" Learn to god damn read and people need to stop spreading useless, baseless, pathetic drama bullshit. When did this community turn into such spoiled little brats? Note. This is not just directed at you, just seen enough of this pointless crying in this thread and had to rant. and you are? a pro gamer? no, i don't think so. You don't understand the frustration when you know a lot of these players from WOL are not going to be as good as the players who have been practicing HOTS very hard, their decision of making of not having an open bracket is stupid, even without an open bracket, have some Online qualifiers would be nice, but instead, they invite people, why hyping it up when you're just going to fking invite people. MLG doesn't suck, whoever decided on this sucks. No, I'm not a Pro gamer. Never claimed to be either. I'm a spectator I'm the one buying the passes to all these events. If you're not going to be as good as the other players maybe you should practice more? Like said MANY MANY times before, the invite only qualifiers are for Dallas only due to the game being in beta(Again reading comprehension please). The Beta server is not stable enough for open qualifiers as explained a billion times... So again I ask you to actually read what they are saying before throwing a hissy fit. are you serious? so it's because "beta server is not stable enough" and "practice more" is suppose to get me into an invitational that's based off of WOL instead of HOTS skills? not as good as other players? where did you get that from? again, you should read my argument carefully, it's Unfair and unprofessional to just hold everyone up for like 2 months and expects a bang when you're just going to announce the entire tournament is invite only instead of some sort of qualifier don't you think? Never said practicing more would get you an invite, just pointing out that if you feel you're not going to be as good as some of these other guys maybe you should practice more? Do you think Flash and the Kespa guys have been practicing HotS while prepping for pro league and this GSL season? No! Again Invite only is for Dallas because yes the beta server is too unstable to hold open qualifiers.. I've tried reading your argument but you don't seem to have one, all I can gather from it is you being mad because you didn't get an invite. I'll be angry with them if they stick with the invite only after Dallas yes. but for Dallas it's quite clearly their only option here. They maybe could have given a bit more heads up about it yes. but all in all everything on their part seems extremely reasonable if you'd look at it from their point of view and not be blinded by your own bias.
What is unstable about the beta server? Ive been playing it quite a bit and havent noticed anymore issues than WoL has.... Thats the confusing part to me, About how everyone defends the servers being unstable and I havent noticed anything of the sort that is out of the ordinary. And if the servers are so unstable, why is IPL6 is holding open online qualifiers, and an open bracket in hots? Yet MLG claims its impossible.
But so many other questions go unanswered such as... Is there going to be another Dallas stop this year? since this isnt a "real" mlg event its an exhibition. What are gold memberships good for competitive players? What exactly is unstable about the servers? Why arent some pros even practicing HOTS for this event? As to me its unprofessional to accept an invite you arent even going to spend time practicing for, regardless of whether your flash or some unknown.
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I dont get all the whines in this thread. I am looking forward to this tourny and think it will be a blast.
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On February 03 2013 05:19 DaCruise wrote:
I dont get all the whines in this thread. I am looking forward to this tourny and think it will be a blast.
The whines are that if you are really good at HoTS now, you can't show your skills at the upcoming MLG because there is no open bracket. This is a pretty legitimate concern for upcoming pros or even established pros who have put A LOT of time into HoTS beta and really can't do anything.
Also of concern are the picks are made based on WoL internal rankings through MLG. It could be seen as illogical to have a tournament invites for a new game based on an old one. There are also some concerns over the players invited. Some people feel that players are there and shouldn't be......even based under WoL standards.
Finally, the reasoning as to why there is no open bracket seems to not quite make sense for a lot of people (including myself). I can understand not wanting to do qualifiers based on a beta for an unfinished game. But I don't see how the gaming coming out 3 days before the tournament hinders any legitimacy of an open bracket. If a pro didn't put in the time during the beta then they SHOULD get knocked out.
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MLGAdam's post sounds good, looking forward to Dallas!
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It seems like MLG framed their response in a strange way... they said that the open bracket is not possible due to the HOTS beta servers being unreliable. But why not just do what they've done at every other event and have the open bracket played live? As long as it's after the game launches, I don't see why that would be a problem. I could be mistaken, but it sounds like they were planning on removing the live open bracket regardless, and are trying to brush that detail under the carpet...
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I was never a big fan of the open bracket. Until the last 1-2 rounds nearly all matches were pretty one-sided and not really interesting. I like a 32-64slot invitiational alot better. Super Tournament Format ftw!
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