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[MLG] Winter Season featuring Heart of the Swarm - Page 13
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birchman
Sweden393 Posts
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Jesus Christ, this is being put on for your entertainment. Show some damn gratitude. Without companies like MLG eSports would barely exist in the US. I'm as upset that there's no open bracket as anyone but this is clearly a one off, exhibitionary thing to show off the game and generate interest - by showing it at its highest level. Obviously MLG will go back to the traditional format in the next Championships. | ||
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rbkl
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MartinN
Spain307 Posts
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DaweedG
Norway41 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:25 MartinN wrote: No LucifroN or VortiX in EU Qualifier !! ¬¬ They declined the invite. read the tread! | ||
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warmus
United Kingdom196 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:56 Sabre wrote: For me, its not the lack of an open bracket so much as the lack of any chance for an upcomer to actually show anything. Even if they did some kind of satellite into a showdown for a certain number of places I would be happy tbh... I just really dislike this approach Sorry, but again. How many times has an upcomer shown anything of notice? i can only ever think of thorzain who was an unknown- turn- star after the TSL3. Other than that it just never happened. There is so much content out there that MLG is not the only place to prove yourself, in fact go prove yourself somewhere else before you clog up the open bracket to get 2-0 by an american semi pro, who then gets 2-0 by the first korean he meets (and MLG pays for this with bandwidth computers etc). And in the rare case you manage to take a game, no one will even notice nor care enough untill you beat a couple of pro koreans, and if you do that we already knew who you are. If there would be "new" talent with some serious prospects, we would already know about it, its the internet community of an online game after all. | ||
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odE
Finland177 Posts
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Prime Directive
United States186 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:20 Larkin wrote: How can people be so disparaging about this? MLG works their fucking tits off to bring high quality entertainment, the best players, a union with Kespa, and big prize pools, and all people can say is "hurr it's no IPL durr". Jesus Christ, this is being put on for your entertainment. Show some damn gratitude. Without companies like MLG eSports would barely exist in the US. I'm as upset that there's no open bracket as anyone but this is clearly a one off, exhibitionary thing to show off the game and generate interest - by showing it at its highest level. Obviously MLG will go back to the traditional format in the next Championships. I disagree that we need to generate interest in the game through an invite-only exhibition. Wouldn't the introduction of a new game be a perfect time to hold an open bracket? I want to see what up and comers that have been practicing the beta for months have come up with. I also think it's the best opportunity for one of these players to make it pretty high in the tournament and get some new stories going. I still haven't heard why we can't have an on-site open bracket. For me personally, living in Dallas, eliminating the open bracket and the chance for participating makes spectating much less exciting. I'm sure it will still be a good event (especially to online viewers) I just think it could have been better for the on-site spectators. | ||
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DiMano
Korea (South)2066 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship/Showdowns | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:32 DiMano wrote: Made wiki pages for the events: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Winter_Championship/Showdowns looks good, appreciated! | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
By having a tournament so close to HOTS release, it is clear that it will be at such an early part of the meta game that it will essentially be just a giant cluster fuck. Top players wouldn't have had enough time to acclimate and could at any point, get cheesed out to some stupid all-in that they haven't seen yet. Right now if you had an open bracket, ST_Life will get through with no problem, and you would expect him to do so. Why? Because the meta-game is established, he knows what to expect, and he can reasonably get to the mid game consistently, where he will outshine the players that are tiers below him. If you look at this MLG, however, that isn't necessarily the case. An open bracket means that many top players could get cheesed out by lesser players, and you will have a tournament with several terrible players not being to hold their own mechanically or strategically. By giving people some form of organized format and structure, the top pro players can reasonably prepare for their matches and have some form of strategy and practice. And if there is some cheesing among them, at least there will be some brand name players at the top (and while you might not care, MLG definitely does because they don't want a failed event). So, for this event, it makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE to have an open bracket. I don't even want to see it. I'd rather see how the pros handle the changes. At least I know pros will be able to adapt within the tournament or provide semi-decent matches from their mechanics alone. It is absolutely the right move on MLG's part. Any tournament that has an "open" bracket within the first week of the game release is asking for trouble. HOTS isn't that much different than WOL. If some unknown wins HOTS from the open bracket, it will be because he's abusing some really overpowered strategy. The top players remain the top players. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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MiQ
Canada312 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:27 warmus wrote: Sorry, but again. How many times has an upcomer shown anything of notice? i can only ever think of thorzain who was an unknown- turn- star after the TSL3. Other than that it just never happened. In fairness, Stephano, Scarlett, Vortix, Feast, SortOf, Snute and Suppy. Also quite a lot of Korean players, including a funky, overly-aggressive Zerg who was nearly as good as Line. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:31 Prime Directive wrote: I disagree that we need to generate interest in the game through an invite-only exhibition. Wouldn't the introduction of a new game be a perfect time to hold an open bracket? I want to see what up and comers that have been practicing the beta for months have come up with. I also think it's the best opportunity for one of these players to make it pretty high in the tournament and get some new stories going. I still haven't heard why we can't have an on-site open bracket. For me personally, living in Dallas, eliminating the open bracket and the chance for participating makes spectating much less exciting. I'm sure it will still be a good event (especially to online viewers) I just think it could have been better for the on-site spectators. Perhaps. But just because it's a new game it doesn't mean WoL players are going to suck at it and unknowns will beast it. Perhaps some GM players could make a mark if they've played enough, but if they can't at the next tournament then they're clearly not good enough and this will obviously be a one off. Any open bracket has the same story - the expected Koreans destroy everything until they meet each other, they all get through the groups, the better NA/EU players have a more likely chance to be upset but their upsetters still won't beat the Koreans. Besides, there are plenty of the less successful players in the HotS exhibition, perhaps this is their chance. Imagine if (picking a match from memory) Sasquatch beats HuK to qualify, then freaking mauls everyone and ends up placing top 4? That'd be a far better storyline than "supergamer3490 finishes 49th at MLG, upsets Machine and Nony." | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On February 01 2013 04:52 ratbert wrote: maybe just maybe he declined? but hey, its MLG, lets hate anyway right? Adding a "Please Read the thread before posting" thing on the top of the thread might be a good idea. But still, seems like the most vocals sometimes are the people who dislike/hate mlg. :S | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 01 2013 05:31 Prime Directive wrote: I disagree that we need to generate interest in the game through an invite-only exhibition. Wouldn't the introduction of a new game be a perfect time to hold an open bracket? I want to see what up and comers that have been practicing the beta for months have come up with. I also think it's the best opportunity for one of these players to make it pretty high in the tournament and get some new stories going. I still haven't heard why we can't have an on-site open bracket. For me personally, living in Dallas, eliminating the open bracket and the chance for participating makes spectating much less exciting. I'm sure it will still be a good event (especially to online viewers) I just think it could have been better for the on-site spectators. The reason for removing the open bracket is due to concerns of server stability due to the game being released 3 days earlier. It is not because they only want known names. Your complaint is valid, but not worth the risk of having the entire event crash and burn because of server or connection issues. | ||
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kottbullar
Australia490 Posts
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anime beer
United States3 Posts
I'm looking at this MLG as a fun invitational, kind of like Day[9]'s "King of the Beta" in Wings of Liberty. We'll see who the real top players are when, inevitably, IEM and Dreamhack and even MLG have open qualifier events a few months after release. Have some perspective, MLG is not the only tournament out there. | ||
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thefrol
Russian Federation30 Posts
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