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On February 26 2013 20:59 gawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 20:34 y0su wrote:On February 26 2013 19:59 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.
If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?
Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements? People want to keep what they purchased. They purchased a license that grants them access to the service Blizzard provides. The service applies to the license, not the Battle.net account the license is stored on. They buy a second license, they get twice the service. Before Global Play the service was access to one region. With GP Blizz changed the service to access to all regions, for each license. People with multiple licenses on one b.net account are only able to use the service provided by one license though. The other issue people have is that Blizzard wants to merge multiple licenses into one. "They can do the same as before, can access the same regions" is true, but they lose one license they paid for and still should be getting service out of. The license they lose is the same license someone gets if they buy WoL today (still is worth some money). People purchased access to play on multiple regions. They still have that. Nothing has been lost. I'm only planning on purchasing a single copy of HotS despite having multiple sc2 accounts. I wish my accounts were joined instead of separate because I'm not going to be keeping one of my characters with HotS. People who had multiple regions on one account get to keep their characters for cheaper... To me this is no different than purchasing something (let's say WoL) for full price ($60) and then getting upset when the price changes ($30). Someone said that it's different because everyone expects the price to eventually drop. I still don't see a difference. You paid more to get something earlier. Maybe some people would not have purchased multiple regions had they known global play would be revealed. That's life. People did not buy access to multiple regions, they bought multiple licenses (as described in the EULA) that each grant them access to the service (starcraft2). Blizzard now improved the service (sc2 has global play), what doesn't change the fact that people have 2 licenses. Of course licenses lose value over time, I don't think anyone complains about that. They still are worth "30"bucks each though. By merging them people lose stuff they bought that still has value.
Do you have to accept the TOS/EULA for each individual region or just once per account? + Show Spoiler [answer] + you accept the TOS/EULA on EACH region. You now have four licenses instead of two (before global play) or one (as you claim).
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People did not buy access to multiple regions, they bought multiple licenses (as described in the EULA) that each grant them access to the service (starcraft2). Blizzard now improved the service (sc2 has global play), what doesn't change the fact that people have 2 licenses.
Of course licenses lose value over time, I don't think anyone complains about that. They still are worth "30"bucks each though. By merging them people lose stuff they bought that still has value.
You didn't lose additional licences, you just didn't gain as many new ones as everyone else did (everyone else had to sign the EULA on every new server).
Of course that EULA also states Blizzard can, - and they do -, update it as necessary. You still have access to all the licences you purchased (which is a licence to access the software for a region).
Everyone has multiple licences now, get it?
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On February 26 2013 21:17 y0su wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 20:59 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 20:34 y0su wrote:On February 26 2013 19:59 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.
If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?
Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements? People want to keep what they purchased. They purchased a license that grants them access to the service Blizzard provides. The service applies to the license, not the Battle.net account the license is stored on. They buy a second license, they get twice the service. Before Global Play the service was access to one region. With GP Blizz changed the service to access to all regions, for each license. People with multiple licenses on one b.net account are only able to use the service provided by one license though. The other issue people have is that Blizzard wants to merge multiple licenses into one. "They can do the same as before, can access the same regions" is true, but they lose one license they paid for and still should be getting service out of. The license they lose is the same license someone gets if they buy WoL today (still is worth some money). People purchased access to play on multiple regions. They still have that. Nothing has been lost. I'm only planning on purchasing a single copy of HotS despite having multiple sc2 accounts. I wish my accounts were joined instead of separate because I'm not going to be keeping one of my characters with HotS. People who had multiple regions on one account get to keep their characters for cheaper... To me this is no different than purchasing something (let's say WoL) for full price ($60) and then getting upset when the price changes ($30). Someone said that it's different because everyone expects the price to eventually drop. I still don't see a difference. You paid more to get something earlier. Maybe some people would not have purchased multiple regions had they known global play would be revealed. That's life. People did not buy access to multiple regions, they bought multiple licenses (as described in the EULA) that each grant them access to the service (starcraft2). Blizzard now improved the service (sc2 has global play), what doesn't change the fact that people have 2 licenses. Of course licenses lose value over time, I don't think anyone complains about that. They still are worth "30"bucks each though. By merging them people lose stuff they bought that still has value. Do you have to accept the TOS/EULA for each individual region or just once per account? + Show Spoiler [answer] + you accept the TOS/EULA on EACH region. You now have four licenses instead of two (before global play) or one (as you claim).
I don't know why I have to accept the TOS/EULA for each region. Maybe because in the past you could have one license for each region and Blizzard did not update the login screens.
If you buy a license now and register it to a new b.net account you accepted the EULA, even without starting the game.
Regarding the 4 licenses:
On February 26 2013 21:19 Elwar wrote:Show nested quote +People did not buy access to multiple regions, they bought multiple licenses (as described in the EULA) that each grant them access to the service (starcraft2). Blizzard now improved the service (sc2 has global play), what doesn't change the fact that people have 2 licenses.
Of course licenses lose value over time, I don't think anyone complains about that. They still are worth "30"bucks each though. By merging them people lose stuff they bought that still has value. You didn't lose additional licences, you just didn't gain as many new ones as everyone else did (everyone else had to sign the EULA on every new server). Of course that EULA also states Blizzard can, - and they do -, update it as necessary. You still have access to all the licences you purchased (which is a licence to access the software for a region). Everyone has multiple licences now, get it?
That is not what support told me.
They told me:
- my licenses would be merged to a single license, because a battle.net account can only contain a single license. I can not have multiple licenses on one b.net account.
- Thats why I can purchase HotS only once, because I only have a single license now, instead of two (or more).
- You only need one license to play on all regions.
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On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged.
You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account.
A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times.
B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account.
Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region).
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On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region).
In A) you don't have to buy HotS three times. You can buy it once and play HotS on every region with one HotS account per region.
Lets assume hots costs 40$ and wol 20$.
In A) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of HotS)
In B) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of Hots) + 40$ (2 copies of WoL)
How would it be stupid to prever A) over B)?
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On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region).
I don't understand you.
In case A you do NOT have to buy HotS 3 times. You can buy HotS for only one of your 3 B.net accounts. You will then have 9 WoL characters and 3 HotS characters. This is better than the 3 WoL characters and 3 HotS characters you get in case B.
And obviously the 9 characters are exactly what people are raging about. I only have on account and I haven't participated in this discussion before, but I have no problem understanding what they are upset about.
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On February 26 2013 23:54 gawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). In A) you don't have to buy HotS three times. You can buy it once and play HotS on every region with one HotS account per region. Lets assume hots costs 40$ and wol 20$. In A) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of HotS) In B) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of Hots) + 40$ (2 copies of WoL) How would it be stupid to prever A) over B)?
You are mistaken. In A there's 3 B.net accounts, so you need to buy HotS 3 times. In B there's 1 B.net account (where you bought WoL 3 times), but you only need to buy HotS once, since HotS applies to the whole B.net account, i.e. 1 HotS can update 3 merged SC2 accounts on the same B.net account.
X B.net accounts = X copies of HotS.
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On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region).
A) Yes.
B) So basically, it's like someone taking two of your three cars, saying 'now you only have to buy gasoline for one of them!'. If that's not charity, I don't know what is.
I think you're overemphasizing the word 'merge', when, in fact, all but one of the licenses actually just disappear. The fact that I can keep my random achievements honestly doesn't make me happier.
Also, the discussion about "is the disappearance of licenses fair for 1-account people" was carried at a 7 year-old level til now, but someone made a good point, so now we can actually delve deeper, requiring only the understanding of a 4 year-old:
What if someone who bought two WoLs also wanted to buy two HotS (say, he wants two EU accounts). Does he have to buy 3 WoLs and 2 HotS for 2 accounts? It's rhetorical, I'm sure there's tons of people who have nothing to do that are going to find this normal, but still, take it as food for thought, if anything.
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On February 27 2013 00:00 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). A) Yes. B) So basically, it's like someone taking two of your three cars, saying 'now you only have to buy gasoline for one of them!'. If that's not charity, I don't know what is. I think you're overemphasizing the word 'merge', when, in fact, all but one of the licenses actually just disappear. The fact that I can keep my random achievements honestly doesn't make me happier. Also, the discussion about "is the disappearance of licenses fair for 1-account people" was carried at a 7 year-old level til now, but someone made a good point, so now we can actually delve deeper, requiring only the understanding of a 4 year-old: What if someone who bought two WoLs also wanted to buy two HotS (say, he wants two EU accounts). Does he have to buy 3 WoLs and 2 HotS for 2 accounts? It's rhetorical, I'm sure there's tons of people who have nothing to do that are going to find this normal, but still, take it as food for thought, if anything.
No.
Losing an account isn't losing anything, you still have your characters, achievements, and stats. So what do you lose? You lose the ability to make an additional character per region. But if that's what you want, then unmerge your accounts.
You can't have it both ways. Either: unmerge your accounts so that you have to buy HotS more than once, or merge them so you only need to buy HotS once.
The answer to your rhetorical question is that you need 2 WoL and 2 HotS accounts. So you can't say I bought SC2 2 times, so I should be able to update them all with 1 HotS account, because no one else can do that: If a new player wants 2 updated accounts they would need to buy 2 WoL and 2 HotS.
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On February 27 2013 00:07 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 00:00 n0ise wrote:On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). A) Yes. B) So basically, it's like someone taking two of your three cars, saying 'now you only have to buy gasoline for one of them!'. If that's not charity, I don't know what is. I think you're overemphasizing the word 'merge', when, in fact, all but one of the licenses actually just disappear. The fact that I can keep my random achievements honestly doesn't make me happier. Also, the discussion about "is the disappearance of licenses fair for 1-account people" was carried at a 7 year-old level til now, but someone made a good point, so now we can actually delve deeper, requiring only the understanding of a 4 year-old: What if someone who bought two WoLs also wanted to buy two HotS (say, he wants two EU accounts). Does he have to buy 3 WoLs and 2 HotS for 2 accounts? It's rhetorical, I'm sure there's tons of people who have nothing to do that are going to find this normal, but still, take it as food for thought, if anything. No. Losing an account isn't losing anything, you still have your characters, achievements, and stats. So what do you lose? You lose the ability to make an additional account per region. But if that's what you want, then unmerge your accounts. You can't have it both ways. Either: unmerge your accounts so that you have to buy HotS more than once, or merge them so you only need to buy HotS once. The answer to your rhetorical question is that you need 2 WoL and 2 HotS accounts. So you can't say I bought SC2 2 times, so I should be able to update them all with 1 HotS account, because no one else can do that: If a new player want 2 updated accounts they would need to buy 2 WoL and 2 HotS.
Ah, I see. Dude, the problem at this point is that people in EU don't actually have the options you're talking about. If we could unmerge our accounts, this topic wouldn't even exist (as far as I and 90% of us are concerned).
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On February 27 2013 00:07 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 00:00 n0ise wrote:On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). A) Yes. B) So basically, it's like someone taking two of your three cars, saying 'now you only have to buy gasoline for one of them!'. If that's not charity, I don't know what is. I think you're overemphasizing the word 'merge', when, in fact, all but one of the licenses actually just disappear. The fact that I can keep my random achievements honestly doesn't make me happier. Also, the discussion about "is the disappearance of licenses fair for 1-account people" was carried at a 7 year-old level til now, but someone made a good point, so now we can actually delve deeper, requiring only the understanding of a 4 year-old: What if someone who bought two WoLs also wanted to buy two HotS (say, he wants two EU accounts). Does he have to buy 3 WoLs and 2 HotS for 2 accounts? It's rhetorical, I'm sure there's tons of people who have nothing to do that are going to find this normal, but still, take it as food for thought, if anything. No. Losing an account isn't losing anything, you still have your characters, achievements, and stats. So what do you lose? You lose the ability to make an additional character per region. But if that's what you want, then unmerge your accounts. You can't have it both ways. Either: unmerge your accounts so that you have to buy HotS more than once, or merge them so you only need to buy HotS once. The answer to your rhetorical question is that you need 2 WoL and 2 HotS accounts. So you can't say I bought SC2 2 times, so I should be able to update them all with 1 HotS account, because no one else can do that: If a new player wants 2 updated accounts they would need to buy 2 WoL and 2 HotS.
There is the issue, accounts cannot be merged, or unmerged, I attempted to put my other sc2 account, that is on a separate bnet account, all on my main account. When I contacted Blizz about it, I was told that you can only Merge/un-merge wow accounts.
EDIT: this is on NA, guy above me, EU.
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On February 26 2013 23:59 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:54 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). In A) you don't have to buy HotS three times. You can buy it once and play HotS on every region with one HotS account per region. Lets assume hots costs 40$ and wol 20$. In A) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of HotS) In B) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of Hots) + 40$ (2 copies of WoL) How would it be stupid to prever A) over B)? You are mistaken. In A there's 3 B.net accounts, so you need to buy HotS 3 times. In B there's 1 B.net account (where you bought WoL 3 times), but you only need to buy HotS once, since HotS applies to the whole B.net account, i.e. 1 HotS can update 3 merged SC2 accounts on the same B.net account. X B.net accounts = X copies of HotS.
If you buy one copy of HotS you have
A) 3 ingame-accounts in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region.
B) 1 ingame-account in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region.
A can buy HotS three times, but once is enough for Global Play (in HotS).
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It's better depending on how high you value "characters, achievements, and stats". No offense, but I don't know how many people care about those 
At the same time, I'd rather have 1 HotS and 1 WoL vanilla and have the option to upgrade my 2nd license if I want to, rather than only having 1 HotS and my vanilla WoL just disappearing. Again, keeping "characters, achievements, and stats" may have some value for you, it doesn't for me.
@eXePensai - check a few pages back for people who've done it on NA and keep trying with support. I'm pretty sure that in the end, NA GMs end up being helpful and will solve your problem.
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On February 27 2013 00:24 gawk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 23:59 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 23:54 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). In A) you don't have to buy HotS three times. You can buy it once and play HotS on every region with one HotS account per region. Lets assume hots costs 40$ and wol 20$. In A) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of HotS) In B) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of Hots) + 40$ (2 copies of WoL) How would it be stupid to prever A) over B)? You are mistaken. In A there's 3 B.net accounts, so you need to buy HotS 3 times. In B there's 1 B.net account (where you bought WoL 3 times), but you only need to buy HotS once, since HotS applies to the whole B.net account, i.e. 1 HotS can update 3 merged SC2 accounts on the same B.net account. X B.net accounts = X copies of HotS. If you buy one copy of HotS you have A) 3 ingame-accounts in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region. B) 1 ingame-account in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region. A can buy HotS three times, but once is enough for Global Play (in HotS).
Yes, that's right: In A, only 1 of the 3 WoL accounts have been updated to HotS. So the other 2 WoL accounts are worthless, because WoL will be dead, just like how original WC3 and SC1 died.
Better to keep them all on 1 B.net account so all 3 characters on the various regions can be updated to HotS and so you don't have to start a new character, without your achievements and stats, friend's list, etc.
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On February 27 2013 00:30 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 00:24 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 23:59 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 23:54 gawk wrote:On February 26 2013 23:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On February 26 2013 21:09 Mendelfist wrote:On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?
You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case. No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged. You misunderstand me. HotS applies to the B.net account. A) If you got Blizzard to unmerge your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, you have to buy HotS 3 times. B) If you do nothing, i.e. keep your multiple SC2 accounts for diferent regions merged on the same account, then you only need to buy HotS once. Because there's only 1 B.net account. Therefore, complainers who want to do A are stupid (unless they really do want 9 characters on 3 separate B.net accounts, 3 characters per region). In A) you don't have to buy HotS three times. You can buy it once and play HotS on every region with one HotS account per region. Lets assume hots costs 40$ and wol 20$. In A) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of HotS) In B) to have three b.net accounts with HotS you need to spend 120$ (3 copies of Hots) + 40$ (2 copies of WoL) How would it be stupid to prever A) over B)? You are mistaken. In A there's 3 B.net accounts, so you need to buy HotS 3 times. In B there's 1 B.net account (where you bought WoL 3 times), but you only need to buy HotS once, since HotS applies to the whole B.net account, i.e. 1 HotS can update 3 merged SC2 accounts on the same B.net account. X B.net accounts = X copies of HotS. If you buy one copy of HotS you have A) 3 ingame-accounts in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region. B) 1 ingame-account in WoL per region, and one ingame-account in HotS per region. A can buy HotS three times, but once is enough for Global Play (in HotS). Yes, that's right: In A, only 1 of the 3 WoL accounts have been updated to HotS. So the other 2 WoL accounts are worthless, because WoL will be dead, just like how original WC3 and SC1 died. Better to keep them all on 1 B.net account so all 3 characters on the various regions can be updated to HotS and so you don't have to start a new character, without your achievements and stats, friend's list, etc.
Ok, you were talking about ingame rewards and stuff.
The problem discussed in this thread is more about losing licenses.
"Buy 2 keep 1"
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So does anyone know if we really lost our licenses or not?
I had 4 wol licenses on 1 bnet account. their hots faq said that I would be getting 4 hots profiles... will that be happening or not?
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If you have 3 accounts, now you have like 12. 1 for each region. Whereas someone with 1 account has only 4. 1 for each region as well.
You gain the same thing as the person with 1 account. I also doubt many people will even play on many of the different regions because of the latency. So you don't actually lose anything. You still have the advantage of having multiple accounts on at least 1 latency/lag free region.
I do believe you should gain access to your multiple account on the expansion for free once you buy the expansion 1 time.
If not, then at a low price(perhaps 15$ or 10$)
It'd be ridiculous to have the expansion several times. Especially since there is still LOTV to come out as well!!
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On March 07 2013 15:51 nakedsurfer wrote:
If you have 3 accounts, now you have like 12. 1 for each region. Whereas someone with 1 account has only 4. 1 for each region as well.
You gain the same thing as the person with 1 account. I also doubt many people will even play on many of the different regions because of the latency. So you don't actually lose anything. You still have the advantage of having multiple accounts on at least 1 latency/lag free region.
I do believe you should gain access to your multiple account on the expansion for free once you buy the expansion 1 time.
If not, then at a low price(perhaps 15$ or 10$)
It'd be ridiculous to have the expansion several times. Especially since there is still LOTV to come out as well!!
I already have the expansion. And it looks like blizz "merged" the different regions I had when implementing global play.
Now my account only has 1 sc2 profile that is opened up to all the regions. I've lost my other three "accounts" it seems.
I thought the hots faq said that people with multiple accounts need only to upgrade once and their regions will be upgraded too.
Looks like yeah, they're upgraded, because of global play, not because of it actually being upgraded. So I'll end up having only 1 hots account as well, with my three others going poof in the air.
I hope I'm wrong though. It would be a shitty move by blizz to "upgrade" the system while disregarding what it'll do to people with multiple regions.
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This thread makes it seem like a bad thing that they added global play... lol.
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