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rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 23:23:53
February 24 2013 23:23 GMT
#501
I think if the people who raised this issue should have mentioned that they plan to buy multiple copies of HotS for smurfing purposes ( i cant fathom another reason besides that and maybe reselling account to go through all the trouble ) - perhaps blizzard could then be more welcoming to the idea of transferring extra licences to secondary e-mails.

Most of the posts concering this topic just come off as "i missed out on the free because i didnt use multiple emails" without any real reason why they should get one.

gawk
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 00:06:45
February 24 2013 23:51 GMT
#502
On February 25 2013 08:23 rename wrote:
I think if the people who raised this issue should have mentioned that they plan to buy multiple copies of HotS for smurfing purposes ( i cant fathom another reason besides that and maybe reselling account to go through all the trouble ) - perhaps blizzard could then be more welcoming to the idea of transferring extra licences to secondary e-mails.

Most of the posts concering this topic just come off as "i missed out on the free because i didnt use multiple emails" without any real reason why they should get one.


The reason to go through the trouble is that Global Play is introduced to WoL.
I have 2 licenses on one account, and think I deserve to get two logins per region.

I asked the support if Global Play would apply to each license, and they answered:
Does the access to all regions (Global Play) apply to each of my licenses, or to my Battle.net account?

Global play will be applied to each license.

This means I should have one login per license per region.
You should realize that Global Play is introduced to WoL aswell. I do not need to buy HotS.

I asked the same question again with this result:
I was able to confirm you have two separate SC2 game licenses linked to this email; one for the US region, and the other for EU.

Global Play should apply to both licenses (allowing separate logins.) But the details are not set in stone until the new expansion is released. So you may want to wait a few weeks to determine the full effect of global play.


It seems I should get two logins for each license, for every region. But Blizzard still has to figure it out... :s
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8243 Posts
February 26 2013 06:17 GMT
#503
Just got this in my email:

Tune in tomorrow for the World Premiere of the StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm “Vengeance” trailer at 12 PM PST, exclusively on Twitch TV.
The official revel will include a live discussion with Blizzard Developers Chris Metzen, Dustin Browder and Jeff Chamberlin, as well as StarCraft II’s Community Manager Kevin “Cloaken” Johnson. Viewers can participate in the discussion segment by sending questions via Twitter or Vine, using the hashtag #Vengeance.


Would probably be the time for TL to rally and get the question of multiple games on one account out there.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 07:03:47
February 26 2013 07:02 GMT
#504
i'm surprised this thread is still going despite how the OT was a bit poor.

i think it should be made easier to have your licenses (on one account) split..
personally, i manually split my licenses over different accounts anticipating something like global play, but i never thought they they would merge the licenses when linked to one account.

i'm curious how this issue has been raised on the bnet forums but then again i have a feeling that the whining would be quite a lot worst.
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Gemini_sc2
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway69 Posts
February 26 2013 07:12 GMT
#505
Don't be cheap You got what you paid for at the time and just because everyone is getting global now and in HOTS doesn't mean you deserve a new copy or a refund.
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
February 26 2013 07:15 GMT
#506
On February 26 2013 16:12 Gemini_sc2 wrote:
Don't be cheap You got what you paid for at the time and just because everyone is getting global now and in HOTS doesn't mean you deserve a new copy or a refund.


I bet you have one copy.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 07:19:39
February 26 2013 07:18 GMT
#507
On February 26 2013 16:12 Gemini_sc2 wrote:
Don't be cheap You got what you paid for at the time and just because everyone is getting global now and in HOTS doesn't mean you deserve a new copy or a refund.


how about the copy we paid for? i don't get this argument that everyone keeps throwing out there... If someone could explain it to me from where all these people are coming from and how this ideal comes about... So basically I planned on buying 2 hots, regardless of global, figured if global came out great would end up with 2 NA, which is what I want in the end... So your calling me cheap by saying I should have to buy a 3rd copy of WoL? because my 2nd one was absorbed in this BS? When I technically already own 2 copies of WoL....Seriously learn to math or something.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 09:02:14
February 26 2013 09:01 GMT
#508
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8243 Posts
February 26 2013 09:02 GMT
#509
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If have you a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you have do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?


If you have one KR, one US and one EU game on one account, there is no changes whatsoever. If you had them on 3 separate accounts, you'd have 9 games, 3 for each region.

This is the main point people are complaining about.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 09:19:15
February 26 2013 09:18 GMT
#510
On February 26 2013 18:02 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If have you a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you have do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?


If you have one KR, one US and one EU game on one account, there is no changes whatsoever. If you had them on 3 separate accounts, you'd have 9 games, 3 for each region.

This is the main point people are complaining about.

So given that Blizzard isn't deleting anyone's stats and achievements, what's the big deal?

Actually, what people seem to be complaining about is buying the game 3 times, on 1 B.net account, i.e. a US, EU, KR account on the same B.net account, and then not having access to 9 characters, 3 per region. They're complaining because they want 9 characters for buying the game 3 times.

But Blizzard is now allowing you to separate your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, so that you do have 9 characters. But then you have to buy HotS 3 times, and that's perfectly fair because it's 3 B.net accounts now.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8243 Posts
February 26 2013 09:31 GMT
#511
On February 26 2013 18:18 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 18:02 Excludos wrote:
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If have you a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you have do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?


If you have one KR, one US and one EU game on one account, there is no changes whatsoever. If you had them on 3 separate accounts, you'd have 9 games, 3 for each region.

This is the main point people are complaining about.

So given that Blizzard isn't deleting anyone's stats and achievements, what's the big deal?

Actually, what people seem to be complaining about is buying the game 3 times, on 1 B.net account, i.e. a US, EU, KR account on the same B.net account, and then not having access to 9 characters, 3 per region. They're complaining because they want 9 characters for buying the game 3 times.

But Blizzard is now allowing you to separate your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, so that you do have 9 characters. But then you have to buy HotS 3 times, and that's perfectly fair because it's 3 B.net accounts now.


Most people seems to think that blizzard has deleted their extra games because they can't access them right now. I'm in the belief that you will be able to access your remaining games once hots is released (or soon after).

And no, blizzard isn't allowing people to separate their accounts. They're allowing SOME to do it and refuse others. Costumer service right now doesn't know left from right, and it really depends on who you get in contact with.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 09:45:59
February 26 2013 09:44 GMT
#512
I can log in to the NA client on my NA account and EU client on EU account at the same time on two different computers, and choose which region to play on using Global Play. If they are different regions it works fine, however I can't choose the same region on both accounts (so I can't log in to NA client with NA account and set region to EU, and log in to EU account on EU client with region on EU, it boots me out of one).

It will be interesting to see what happens with HotS licenses, and WoL licenses going forwards.
If HotS applies to both NA and EU licenses, then you would actually be able to play two copies at the same time as long as they were on different regions, so potentially kind of two copies of WoL+HotS for the price of 2xWoL and 1xHotS as long as you don't want to play both on the same region at the same time (if you have siblings/etc).

Still have to wait for HotS to see what's actually going to happen I guess.
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 10:01:24
February 26 2013 10:01 GMT
#513
On February 26 2013 18:31 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 18:18 paralleluniverse wrote:
On February 26 2013 18:02 Excludos wrote:
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If have you a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you have do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?


If you have one KR, one US and one EU game on one account, there is no changes whatsoever. If you had them on 3 separate accounts, you'd have 9 games, 3 for each region.

This is the main point people are complaining about.

So given that Blizzard isn't deleting anyone's stats and achievements, what's the big deal?

Actually, what people seem to be complaining about is buying the game 3 times, on 1 B.net account, i.e. a US, EU, KR account on the same B.net account, and then not having access to 9 characters, 3 per region. They're complaining because they want 9 characters for buying the game 3 times.

But Blizzard is now allowing you to separate your 3 SC2 accounts into 3 B.net accounts, so that you do have 9 characters. But then you have to buy HotS 3 times, and that's perfectly fair because it's 3 B.net accounts now.


Most people seems to think that blizzard has deleted their extra games because they can't access them right now. I'm in the belief that you will be able to access your remaining games once hots is released (or soon after).

And no, blizzard isn't allowing people to separate their accounts. They're allowing SOME to do it and refuse others. Costumer service right now doesn't know left from right, and it really depends on who you get in contact with.

Regardless, why would you want to separate?

You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case.
gawk
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 11:00:59
February 26 2013 10:59 GMT
#514
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?

People want to keep what they purchased. They purchased a license that grants them access to the service Blizzard provides. The service applies to the license, not the Battle.net account the license is stored on.
They buy a second license, they get twice the service.

Before Global Play the service was access to one region.
With GP Blizz changed the service to access to all regions, for each license. People with multiple licenses on one b.net account are only able to use the service provided by one license though.

The other issue people have is that Blizzard wants to merge multiple licenses into one. "They can do the same as before, can access the same regions" is true, but they lose one license they paid for and still should be getting service out of. The license they lose is the same license someone gets if they buy WoL today (still is worth some money).
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 26 2013 11:34 GMT
#515
On February 26 2013 19:59 gawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?

People want to keep what they purchased. They purchased a license that grants them access to the service Blizzard provides. The service applies to the license, not the Battle.net account the license is stored on.
They buy a second license, they get twice the service.

Before Global Play the service was access to one region.
With GP Blizz changed the service to access to all regions, for each license. People with multiple licenses on one b.net account are only able to use the service provided by one license though.

The other issue people have is that Blizzard wants to merge multiple licenses into one. "They can do the same as before, can access the same regions" is true, but they lose one license they paid for and still should be getting service out of. The license they lose is the same license someone gets if they buy WoL today (still is worth some money).

People purchased access to play on multiple regions. They still have that. Nothing has been lost.

I'm only planning on purchasing a single copy of HotS despite having multiple sc2 accounts. I wish my accounts were joined instead of separate because I'm not going to be keeping one of my characters with HotS. People who had multiple regions on one account get to keep their characters for cheaper...

To me this is no different than purchasing something (let's say WoL) for full price ($60) and then getting upset when the price changes ($30). Someone said that it's different because everyone expects the price to eventually drop. I still don't see a difference. You paid more to get something earlier. Maybe some people would not have purchased multiple regions had they known global play would be revealed. That's life.
Gemini_sc2
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway69 Posts
February 26 2013 11:37 GMT
#516
On February 26 2013 16:15 nucLeaRTV wrote:
I bet you have one copy.


No, I had Two copies actually.
I just don't see the problem, as I bought the extra copy getting exactly what I paid for, And the fact that everyone is getting all regions 2 years is great either way. I don't see how I can expect to get my money back for a product I bought 2-3 years ago and used regularly for that period, counting both licenses/regions.
gawk
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany310 Posts
February 26 2013 11:59 GMT
#517
On February 26 2013 20:34 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2013 19:59 gawk wrote:
On February 26 2013 18:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Can someone clarify what exactly happened with Blizzard "merging" accounts for global play.

If you have a US and Korean character on the same B.net account, after Blizzard's merge do you end up with:
1. The US character, and your Korean character is deleted, i.e. your Korean account no longer has the ladder stats and achievements it used to. Or,
2. The same US character and the same Korean character in 1 SC2 account on your B.net account?

Basically, did Blizzard delete anyone's stats and achievements?

People want to keep what they purchased. They purchased a license that grants them access to the service Blizzard provides. The service applies to the license, not the Battle.net account the license is stored on.
They buy a second license, they get twice the service.

Before Global Play the service was access to one region.
With GP Blizz changed the service to access to all regions, for each license. People with multiple licenses on one b.net account are only able to use the service provided by one license though.

The other issue people have is that Blizzard wants to merge multiple licenses into one. "They can do the same as before, can access the same regions" is true, but they lose one license they paid for and still should be getting service out of. The license they lose is the same license someone gets if they buy WoL today (still is worth some money).

People purchased access to play on multiple regions. They still have that. Nothing has been lost.

I'm only planning on purchasing a single copy of HotS despite having multiple sc2 accounts. I wish my accounts were joined instead of separate because I'm not going to be keeping one of my characters with HotS. People who had multiple regions on one account get to keep their characters for cheaper...

To me this is no different than purchasing something (let's say WoL) for full price ($60) and then getting upset when the price changes ($30). Someone said that it's different because everyone expects the price to eventually drop. I still don't see a difference. You paid more to get something earlier. Maybe some people would not have purchased multiple regions had they known global play would be revealed. That's life.

People did not buy access to multiple regions, they bought multiple licenses (as described in the EULA) that each grant them access to the service (starcraft2). Blizzard now improved the service (sc2 has global play), what doesn't change the fact that people have 2 licenses.

Of course licenses lose value over time, I don't think anyone complains about that. They still are worth "30"bucks each though. By merging them people lose stuff they bought that still has value.
gawk
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-26 12:01:57
February 26 2013 12:01 GMT
#518
On February 26 2013 15:17 Excludos wrote:
Just got this in my email:

Show nested quote +
Tune in tomorrow for the World Premiere of the StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm “Vengeance” trailer at 12 PM PST, exclusively on Twitch TV.
The official revel will include a live discussion with Blizzard Developers Chris Metzen, Dustin Browder and Jeff Chamberlin, as well as StarCraft II’s Community Manager Kevin “Cloaken” Johnson. Viewers can participate in the discussion segment by sending questions via Twitter or Vine, using the hashtag #Vengeance.


Would probably be the time for TL to rally and get the question of multiple games on one account out there.

This is really interesting! I'll give it a shot. Also posted it in the b.net thread (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923034397?page=24#462).
Mendelfist
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden356 Posts
February 26 2013 12:09 GMT
#519
On February 26 2013 19:01 paralleluniverse wrote:
Regardless, why would you want to separate?

You'd have to buy HotS multiple times in that case.


No, you don't have to. You can buy one HotS and have the same number of playable HotS characters as someone with merged licenses, but with more WoL characters. With merged licenses you can't even buy HotS multiple times without paying for more WoL licenses (which you already did once). In no way is there an advantage of having the licenses merged.
Meatex
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia285 Posts
February 26 2013 12:13 GMT
#520
Stupidest thing to bitch about imo
Same with paying twice the price to adopt a new technology the day of release compared to people waiting a few months to get the same thing for several hundred cheaper
If you are impatient you pay more, simple.

Not to mention Global play was meant as a HotS feature that they are releasing early thus they are already doing something nice by allowing you to play on servers you didn't buy an account for
Really, why is real cheese so hard to come by in Korea? ^&^
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