Facebook recently changed their API usage policy and decided to prevent third-party games like StarCraft II from utilizing their network to make social connections. Because of that, we removed the Facebook friend-finder feature from StarCraft II in patch 1.5.4.
While the changes that Facebook made are out of our control, don’t forget that we’re adding a bunch of cool social features to Heart of the Swarm, such as Clans and Groups. If you have access to the Swarm beta, you can log in and try them out now.
As always, thanks for your continued enthusiasm and support for StarCraft II.
Noooo! wait.... it actually did nothing other than connecting you to friends who you probably already had on your battle.net account anyway. Won't be a missed feature. Maybe if they'd integrated it properly and actually had it do something, like let you use Facebook chat in-game or something they may have done away for the need for chat channels like they initially wanted to. But as was, it provided no useful functionality, and certainly didn't help the social aspect of the game, which it still sorely needs.
On January 18 2013 06:39 Gingerninja wrote: Noooo! wait.... it actually did nothing other than connecting you to friends who you probably already had on your battle.net account anyway. Won't be a missed feature. Maybe if they'd integrated it properly and actually had it do something, like let you use Facebook chat in-game or something they may have done away for the need for chat channels like they initially wanted to. But as was, it provided no useful functionality, and certainly didn't help the social aspect of the game, which it still sorely needs.
Actually i addes a lot of friends with thif feature... It was no the best thing ever but still...
This is not good for me. I can not remember anyone's names. It would be nice to have it for Hots that way i know I had some IRL connections with them and I could refind my old friends. But that being said I think there is only 2 people left that still play from my facebook out of the 50 i added.
I loved this feature. It makes friending a one click process, rather than a long multi-stage heap of garbage.
Think about what this means for the games industry. Facebook is the social integration option for almost all games right now. Facebook isn't making money off this, so they're taking it away from all Desktop/Web applications to force more games onto their platform.
It also opens up an opportunity for google to step up and provide a service that the games industry needs.
Facebook recently changed their API usage policy and decided to prevent third-party games like StarCraft II from utilizing their network to make social connections. Because of that, we removed the Facebook friend-finder feature from StarCraft II in patch 1.5.4.
While the changes that Facebook made are out of our control, don’t forget that we’re adding a bunch of cool social features to Heart of the Swarm, such as Clans and Groups. If you have access to the Swarm beta, you can log in and try them out now.
As always, thanks for your continued enthusiasm and support for StarCraft II.
Great. Always hated every cross platform tool that forces you to give up your anonymity instead of giving you the option to choose. I hope they go after the WoW/Diablo 3 were you couldn't put yourself on invisible mode for whenever you just want to be alone.
On January 18 2013 06:46 Msr wrote: finally a good change...
How is it a good change? It was a pretty useful feature that let me connect with a lot of IRL friends. Granted, most of them don't play the game anymore, but it was still nice to populate my friends list for the first several weeks. The only bad thing about the feature is that it may have taken development time away from other things like chat channels, but that doesn't really matter now.
Good. This one annoying guy that I used to have on Facebook used that thing once every week or two on SC2 even after I kept rejecting his friend request. I ended up just unfriending him.
It was actually one of the only good features around. I probably added from facebook around 15 or so people I wouldn't have otherwise. Hell, I was actually surprised at some of the people that had the game with facebook integration.
Now it feels like there really isn't anything to offer for Battle.net 2.0 vs regular Battle.net =/.
On January 18 2013 06:17 ayaz2810 wrote: Don't use facebook. Don't care.
You are SO cool ayaz2810.
Seriously, why do people hate Facebook Integration. Give me a legitimate reason other than "It's trendy to hate Facebook." At launch I was able to instantly add 8 or 10 of my friends who were playing SC2. Now it's gone and my friends list in HotS will likely look like a graveyard again.
EDIT: So much hate for a feature that people never tried...
On January 18 2013 06:46 Msr wrote: finally a good change...
In no way is this a good change (although I guess seeing as this didn't work, you could argue that it is).
Facebook integration certainly shouldn't (and likely wasn't, it's not a feature that takes a lot time to implement) a priority feature, but it was damn useful for those of us with real-life friends (I only have RL friends on my Facebook) who play. Now I've got to add everybody seperately, which is a pain in the arse, plus I might have buddies that play the game that I didn't know about!
On January 18 2013 07:45 Stutters695 wrote: It was a useful feature, but at this point all of my friends who bandwagoned sc2 are now either quit or so casual they hop on once a month.
Bummer cause theyll probably be back with hots release.
I hope there will be an option to import the friends list from WoL because it'll be an annoying hassle otherwise.
On January 18 2013 07:45 Stutters695 wrote: It was a useful feature, but at this point all of my friends who bandwagoned sc2 are now either quit or so casual they hop on once a month.
Bummer cause theyll probably be back with hots release.
I hope there will be an option to import the friends list from WoL because it'll be an annoying hassle otherwise.
I think it'll just connect to your WoL account. Like if you have HotS beta, it has all the friends you've added on your PTR accounts in the past, so the same should happen when you add HotS to your account for real.
All your friends are added to your battle.net account, if they are on your friends list now, they will be in HotS, just like if you bought Diablo 3, they'd be listed in that too (at least the ones added by email address are, and the ones added battle.net tag)
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Lol.
This wasn't directed at SC2, but rather every game, site and service in the world that has any sort of facebook integration of this nature. FB doesn't know a thing about the supposed state of SC2, nor do they really care.
For all the people who said this is a useless feature, no it isn't. I added a lot of my friends through it who I had no idea played SC2, and got to catch up with them again. Not the biggest feature, but it definitely has a reason to be missed.
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now. Unless you consider that "dying", viewer numbers are still pretty high so that means a lot of new people are watching
On January 18 2013 08:11 Alryk wrote: People give it crap, but it was a good way to find 40 people on your facebook list who played battle.net games.
On January 18 2013 08:10 Whatson wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now.
But still, the dwindling SC2 player base is probably not a reason for Facebook changing its API usage policy for all third-party games, not just SC2.
On January 18 2013 08:11 Alryk wrote: People give it crap, but it was a good way to find 40 people on your facebook list who played battle.net games.
On January 18 2013 08:10 Whatson wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now.
But still, the dwindling SC2 player base is probably not a reason for Facebook changing its API usage policy for all third-party games, not just SC2.
Yes, I was just saying that if I were Facebook, I would also pull out of SC2, idk about all 3rd party games
On January 18 2013 08:11 Alryk wrote: People give it crap, but it was a good way to find 40 people on your facebook list who played battle.net games.
On January 18 2013 08:10 Whatson wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now.
But still, the dwindling SC2 player base is probably not a reason for Facebook changing its API usage policy for all third-party games, not just SC2.
Yes, I was just saying that if I were Facebook, I would also pull out of SC2, idk about all 3rd party games
well... Modifying the API inherently affects all third party games, regardless of usage. It has nothing to do with starcraft. Its probably a way for Facebook to make money off of this type of feature, instead of making it free.
In a world of public investors, and 500million to one billion subscribers ( I don't remember the actual number) I highly doubt Facebook cares about 200,000 players no longer using a Facebook finder that doesn't even reference/connect with facebooks actual UI. They're probably more concerned about why they've provided it for free so long after going public.
On January 18 2013 08:11 Alryk wrote: People give it crap, but it was a good way to find 40 people on your facebook list who played battle.net games.
On January 18 2013 08:10 Whatson wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now. Unless you consider that "dying", viewer numbers are still pretty high so that means a lot of new people are watching
Dont be in denial. Viewer numbers are very low. It is also pretty dead in Korea (look at the Gom studio or Kespa's). On a good day, the first 2 rows would be filled, and the rest would be empty or the player's parents. Streams for popular tourneys/main matches get to like 20,000 at most, which is pretty low for sc2's standard.
On January 18 2013 08:11 Alryk wrote: People give it crap, but it was a good way to find 40 people on your facebook list who played battle.net games.
On January 18 2013 08:10 Whatson wrote:
On January 18 2013 07:32 Belisarius wrote: This is a bit of a weird action for facebook to take; what could possibly have been bad about it on their end?
As far as SC2 goes, my experience won't change one bit, of course.
Who can blame them for pulling out? They realized that SC2 wasn't going to be as great of an investment as they originally thought. It was popular for a while in 2011, mid 2012, but then most of the casual players stopped playing/caring and switched to other games.
Umm? It's not directed at Starcraft II. It prevents all third-party games from accessing it. Not only games, but possibly other applications as well. It's not some "Facebook knows starcraft is dying" scandal/conspiracy.
I never did say SC2 was dying, i just stated the obvious that a lot of the casual players stopped playing/caring. I had about 50 friends that played 3 or 4 games every day of the week in 2011, i have 2 now. Unless you consider that "dying", viewer numbers are still pretty high so that means a lot of new people are watching
Dont be in denial. Viewer numbers are very low. It is also pretty dead in Korea (look at the Gom studio or Kespa's). On a good day, the first 2 rows would be filled, and the rest would be empty or the player's parents. Streams for popular tourneys/main matches get to like 20,000 at most, which is pretty low for sc2's standard.
Are you saying that SC2 is dying? *Gasp!* You're killing "esports"!!! In all honesty, sc2 is doing far better than what i had originally thought in the beginning of 2012 But now we're getting off-topic
I liked this feature, too bad it's gone. It allowed me to find friends who played and I had no idea they did, it really did make my social experience in B.net 2.0 a lot better.
I tried looking up these policy changes. So far, I've got a policy change from December 5th about off-Facebook web games:
New policies for desktop web games off of Facebook.com The following policies will go into effect:
13a. Desktop web games off of Facebook.com may only use Facebook Login (Authentication, excluding user connections such as friend list), Social Plugins and publishing (e.g., Feed Dialog, Stream Publish, or Open Graph). When authenticating, these games may not request additional permissions other than age, email, and our Publishing Permissions.
13b. Games on Facebook.com and mobile must not share the same app ID with desktop web games off of Facebook.com. You must not use Canvas apps to promote or link to game sites off of Facebook, and must not use emails obtained from us to promote or link to desktop web games off of Facebook.com.
There was also an accompanying developer blog update:
Platform Policy Update for Games
We're updating our games policies to focus engineering resources where social games have the highest impact and drive the best user experience – on Facebook.com and mobile. Our updated policy (sections I.13.a and I.13.b) allows desktop web games off of Facebook.com to only use Facebook for authentication, publishing and Social Plugins. This will be a breaking change for a small number of developers who will need to be in compliance by December 5, 2012, in accordance with our 90-day breaking change policy.
I don't have much experience with the development of Facebook apps and integration, so maybe someone more experienced can chime in with their thoughts.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
certain people are known to shit on any social networking system. that's all.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
No... Because we got Facef*ck instead of Chat Channels, Clans, Leagues, and some new cool unique features.
shame, that's where i find my many real life friends and play games with them. after i broke my leg because some jerk from the opposing football team tackled me and literally destroyed my legs, my girlfriend quit the cheer squad too and bought me sc2. i played it a lot with my many friends thanks to facebook. so sad because now that i am in college i am more popular than ever and this feature would come in handy than the alternative which would be writing people's info down
I actually found some friends from facebook that had blizzard accounts. I had no idea before hand. I guess it doesn't really matter though, it was pretty insignificant to the game as a whole.
LOL just LOL. they try to push FB integration over clans and chat channels on release and now... well guess youre back to good old clans since FB slapped blizzard in the face.
they rightfully deserved this to happen... they didnt put any effort on bnet social features and they should have built something and not rely on others to make the job for them.
On January 18 2013 10:23 Meatloaf wrote: LOL just LOL. they try to push FB integration over clans and chat channels on release and now... well guess youre back to good old clans since FB slapped blizzard in the face.
they rightfully deserved this to happen... they didnt put any effort on bnet social features and they should have built something and not rely on others to make the job for them.
this is Ironic to say the least.
I couldn't write a more ill-informed post than this if i tried.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
No... Because we got Facef*ck instead of Chat Channels, Clans, Leagues, and some new cool unique features.
Because in the end Blizzard had to decide between FB integration and everything else... :\
Objectively there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. FB provided the API. The programming involved was (relatively) trivial. People just like to complain.
On January 18 2013 06:18 Torte de Lini wrote: One of the better features lost ): ): ): ):
I agree. It actually gave you intel on the ppl on your list beyond telling you their nicknames and if they were online or not....
That's not gone, that's part of RealID and you can still add people as RealID via their email.
The specific thing lost is that you could find out if anyone on your facebook friends list played sc2 and add them as RealID friends from within the game.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
No... Because we got Facef*ck instead of Chat Channels, Clans, Leagues, and some new cool unique features.
Do people ever stop to consider the fact that comparing "Facef*ck* to chat channels, clans, leagues, and some new cool unique features involve enormously different amounts of manpower, and coding? Especially when one already has a lot of code pre-written?
It's like comparing cout<<"hello world"; to writing MS Windows.
On January 18 2013 10:53 oxxo wrote: Because in the end Blizzard had to decide between FB integration and everything else... :\
Objectively there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. FB provided the API. The programming involved was (relatively) trivial. People just like to complain.
Because it was so trivial to implement, it probably didn't displace most of what people were complaining about anyway.
On January 18 2013 07:17 Adonminus wrote: Yeah great, never liked that feature. And never used it...
I dont get the negativity with this facebook thing, what was not to like about it? The only people who were angry were probably the Myspace users since they couldn't use it.
No... Because we got Facef*ck instead of Chat Channels, Clans, Leagues, and some new cool unique features.
Do people ever stop to consider the fact that comparing "Facef*ck* to chat channels, clans, leagues, and some new cool unique features involve enormously different amounts of manpower, and coding? Especially when one already has a lot of code pre-written?
It's like comparing cout<<"hello world"; to writing MS Windows.
Yes, I'm exaggerating, but the principle is pretty similar.
Yeah. I doubt FB integration took that much time at all, considering Facebook already had the code for third party games to use already done (might be as simple as copying and pasting in certain cases; the only thing else needed is probably to make it work with battle.net 2.0's friend list which would probably be really simple, the UI, and things like that which probably wouldn't take that much time).
This is a good example of people getting all riled about nothing. If you used the feature like I did then you know it was useful. If you didn't need to or didn't want to, then why do you have a negative opinion of it? I just don't get people sometimes.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Why are you friends with unwanted and annoying people on facebook? I don't get people sometimes..
On January 18 2013 13:33 Goldfish wrote: Yeah. I doubt FB integration took that much time at all, considering Facebook already had the code for third party games to use already done (might be as simple as copying and pasting in certain cases; the only thing else needed is probably to make it work with battle.net 2.0's friend list which would probably be really simple, the UI, and things like that which probably wouldn't take that much time).
I'll bet the hardest part was configuring their internal network to allow the data to pass back and forth between Blizzard and Facebook.
Didn't even realize the option existed...then again I'm more of the twitter/reddit type and not so much facebook. Mostly just keep it around to keep in contact with friends who have moved away or pictures.
On January 18 2013 13:33 Goldfish wrote: Yeah. I doubt FB integration took that much time at all, considering Facebook already had the code for third party games to use already done (might be as simple as copying and pasting in certain cases; the only thing else needed is probably to make it work with battle.net 2.0's friend list which would probably be really simple, the UI, and things like that which probably wouldn't take that much time).
I'll bet the hardest part was configuring their internal network to allow the data to pass back and forth between Blizzard and Facebook.
Basically. The actual code for reading the list of facebook friends' emails and comparing it to Battle.net's database (not the transfer of it, but what is necessary to read it) would probably be pretty trivial.
Now lets move on to something more important, like LAN, or replays with friends, or real channels that make you feel like you're actually in a room with other people, or better game lists without random arcade bs that nobody cares about and is confusing as hell, or a more simple interface without having to click through all over the place just to do what I want.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
This is not a good change.... Ofc nothing that Blizzard can do about it, but I don't understand why people passionately state that this was a good thing.
1) You don't need to add your FB friends if you don't want to... 2) If you do want to, you can add them very easily.
It's either nothing happens, or you win. But now, nothing happens.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
Maybe interact with "while playing starcraft 2" is not clear enough for you ? And no, there is no explaining to do. You know, there are people who like to have "their own free alone time". You can go on with how ridiculous it is when it's just your opinion
I actually thought it was a decent feature. You didn't hvae to use it, but you could find out about other people you knew who played SC2 that otherwise, you'd have no idea that they did.
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
Maybe interact with "while playing starcraft 2" is not clear enough for you ? And no, there is no explaining to do. You know, there are people who like to have "their own free alone time". You can go on with how ridiculous it is when it's just your opinion
Everyone has their own free alone time and he's not saying that is the problem. The problem is when you put your alone time above playing with friends.
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
Maybe interact with "while playing starcraft 2" is not clear enough for you ? And no, there is no explaining to do. You know, there are people who like to have "their own free alone time". You can go on with how ridiculous it is when it's just your opinion
You are aware that you weren't forced to link your facebook account to your bnet account, right?
Why are some people saying this is a good change? The facebook automatic friend finder was fantastic in adding 50+ ppl I know onto battlenet and had no problems whatsoever. Now without it, i'll have to manually add ppl, which is fairly time consuming. Hopefully they implement it back in eventually
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
Maybe interact with "while playing starcraft 2" is not clear enough for you ? And no, there is no explaining to do. You know, there are people who like to have "their own free alone time". You can go on with how ridiculous it is when it's just your opinion
Everyone has their own free alone time and he's not saying that is the problem. The problem is when you put your alone time above playing with friends.
With respect...how is that a "problem"? Because if its a problem what you're basically saying here is having an introverted personality is a problem. Which is utterly ridiculous; some people get their energy from socialising and some get it from quiet time and solitary activities.
Trying to say people shouldn't take that time if they want to is akin to criticising someone for wanting to get some sleep when they're tired instead of staying up all night. Because they're putting their selfish need to rest above playing with their friends.
It was optional. I never understood why so many people were complaining about it at release. Dont use facebook? Dont like it? Dont use it. Very simple. I, like many others here, used it to add a number of friends at once. It was more convenient than figuring out which email address people used or asking their name and character code.
That said i cant say it will be missed all that much, i just dont understand why people continue to complain about it.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
That does exist. You don't need to link your fb account to your bnet account. If you never use your credentials to use the friend finder, then people won't be able to find you via the fb finder
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
You have to opt into the FB finder.... there's no need to make yourself excluded. You are by default.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
That does exist. You don't need to link your fb account to your bnet account. If you never use your credentials to use the friend finder, then people won't be able to find you via the fb finder
Simple as that.
I don't think that doesn't exist. I mentioned an option that opts you out of the facebook finder search. As in I can use my account to add people from facebook (that come up in the search results, they can opt out of being searched as well) but if they use theirs I don't come up in the search. A 1-way visibility kind of like how you can appear offline in Skype or other applications.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
You have to opt into the FB finder.... there's no need to make yourself excluded. You are by default.
I don't recall opting in to be included, but would still receive requests from it.
edit: unless that is how it was and I was just missing something? I just remember it being an everything or nothing option.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
That does exist. You don't need to link your fb account to your bnet account. If you never use your credentials to use the friend finder, then people won't be able to find you via the fb finder
Simple as that.
I don't think that doesn't exist. I mentioned an option that opts you out of the facebook finder search. As in I can use my account to add people from facebook (that come up in the search results, they can opt out of being searched as well) but if they use theirs I don't come up in the search. A 1-way visibility kind of like how you can appear offline in Skype or other applications.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
You have to opt into the FB finder.... there's no need to make yourself excluded. You are by default.
I don't recall opting in to be included, but would still receive requests from it.
edit: unless that is how it was and I was just missing something? I just remember it being an everything or nothing option.
How are you going to receive requests unless you entered you FB info? How can other people find you if your SC2 acct isn't linked to your FB?
Unless you're saying that you want to be able to use it to see other people but have an "exclude myself" option? That's overly picky. I can understand your viewpoint if that's so, but in no way would I ever fault Blizzard for not making it an option.
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
That does exist. You don't need to link your fb account to your bnet account. If you never use your credentials to use the friend finder, then people won't be able to find you via the fb finder
Simple as that.
I don't think that doesn't exist. I mentioned an option that opts you out of the facebook finder search. As in I can use my account to add people from facebook (that come up in the search results, they can opt out of being searched as well) but if they use theirs I don't come up in the search. A 1-way visibility kind of like how you can appear offline in Skype or other applications.
On January 19 2013 09:53 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2013 08:29 Grobyc wrote:
On January 18 2013 16:16 Shinta) wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:54 Godwrath wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:19 BoZiffer wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
You have to opt into the FB finder.... there's no need to make yourself excluded. You are by default.
I don't recall opting in to be included, but would still receive requests from it.
edit: unless that is how it was and I was just missing something? I just remember it being an everything or nothing option.
How are you going to receive requests unless you entered you FB info? How can other people find you if your SC2 acct isn't linked to your FB?
Unless you're saying that you want to be able to use it to see other people but have an "exclude myself" option? That's overly picky. I can understand your viewpoint if that's so, but in no way would I ever fault Blizzard for not making it an option.
Yes that is what I am referring to. I wouldn't say it's overly picky; like I mentioned, it would basically be the same function as appearing offline in a social messenger which has been around for ages. I'm not saying it has been a big problem or anything, that's just my opinion on the function. I would consider it pretty far down the priority list for Blizzard, but that's what these discussion/feedback threads are for right?
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
That does exist. You don't need to link your fb account to your bnet account. If you never use your credentials to use the friend finder, then people won't be able to find you via the fb finder
Simple as that.
I don't think that doesn't exist. I mentioned an option that opts you out of the facebook finder search. As in I can use my account to add people from facebook (that come up in the search results, they can opt out of being searched as well) but if they use theirs I don't come up in the search. A 1-way visibility kind of like how you can appear offline in Skype or other applications.
On January 19 2013 09:53 FabledIntegral wrote:
On January 19 2013 08:29 Grobyc wrote:
On January 18 2013 16:16 Shinta) wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:54 Godwrath wrote:
On January 18 2013 15:19 BoZiffer wrote:
On January 18 2013 10:16 Grobyc wrote: Good, tired of unwanted/annoying people from facebook adding me through that.
Isn't that more of a "you-problem" ??? I mean its not like your Facebook friends were randomly assigned to you or something. I liked the feature, even if it was a one-time use. It was an easy way to add a bunch of people at once.
Why exactly is his fault ? Some people just want to play alone, or be able to have their own time for their own. So what you are saying is he should have to remove all his facebook friends just to be able to play stacraft 2 the way he wants to withouth having to give explanations to other people ?
Yes.... If you have a bunch of friends that you don't want to interact with, then you have some explaining to do. Even if it's just that you want your gamer life to be separate from your real life (which is pretty ridiculous, but everyone is entitled to their own wants and opinions), it's still your problem, and it's not hard for you to fix. It really is a "you-problem".
I never said I didn't want to interact with them at all. I just don't want to play Starcraft with them. Many of them are completely fine in social gatherings and to work with and such, but are sore losers when we game, or they are bronze and just want me to 4v4 with them all the time, etc. I prefer to game alone sometimes, and while I like some people in real life, I would prefer not to game with them
Like Godwrath said, I don't want to have to give explanations to people as to why I don't feel like gaming with them when you have 40 people that find you through the facebook finder. It could easily be fixed by including an option that allows you to be excluded from the facebook finder search.
You have to opt into the FB finder.... there's no need to make yourself excluded. You are by default.
I don't recall opting in to be included, but would still receive requests from it.
edit: unless that is how it was and I was just missing something? I just remember it being an everything or nothing option.
How are you going to receive requests unless you entered you FB info? How can other people find you if your SC2 acct isn't linked to your FB?
Unless you're saying that you want to be able to use it to see other people but have an "exclude myself" option? That's overly picky. I can understand your viewpoint if that's so, but in no way would I ever fault Blizzard for not making it an option.
Yes that is what I am referring to. I wouldn't say it's overly picky; like I mentioned, it would basically be the same function as appearing offline in a social messenger which has been around for ages. I'm not saying it has been a big problem or anything, that's just my opinion on the function. I would consider it pretty far down the priority list for Blizzard, but that's what these discussion/feedback threads are for right?
Yep, I just misinterpreted and realized after I initially posted.
It allowed me to reconnect with friends that I hadn't talked to in a long ass time. IE, people I added on fb that I knew in high school, but have moved away and we hadn't really kept in touch. And BOOM we were playing video games together. It was awesome. Great feature, will be missed.
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It was a nice way to add like 25 friends at once.
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