compLexity gaming house closes - Page 4

On January 13 2013 14:36 darthfoley wrote:


Uhm... the players were obviously getting better.

On January 13 2013 14:36 darthfoley wrote:


Exactly this. I feel like teams are more worried about what the public thinks when they see a 15 bedroom mansion for progaming than the cost and commitment associated with the house.

On January 13 2013 14:13 AstroPegnuin wrote:
Honestly pro gaming houses are not worth it if the players in them self aren't willing to put in the effort, Gauging from the majority of results from the Complexity players we can probably guess that they weren't putting in actual Korean level of effort and thus the investment was no where near profitable for Complexity.

On January 13 2013 16:03 ROOTheognis wrote:


Don't blame the players on this lol. It's really short-sighted to do so. There are many contributing factors as to why these players and foreigners in general aren't code S tournament-winning caliber. You can't just blindly say they don't have the necessary drive or determination. It might or it might not be the case but you actually can't say without proof.

There's a lack of resources available to foreigners: no mid-level tournaments (these give exposure and a stepping stone to the higher-skilled international tournaments), the lack of a quality ladder like the KR server for practice, no coaches, USA being spread out as fuck unlike Korea, etc. The list goes on and on and you can't just point to them being "lazy" as the cause.

Don't just hate on the house because it was big. They could have easily just downgraded to a small suburban 1-story house if they wanted to. What would be your excuse to whine now if they did that?

The fact of the matter is, it's just not a profitable endeavor to have a team house AT ALL in the west. Doesn't matter if it's big or small, the return of investment for the most part isn't there quite yet.

On January 13 2013 16:19 echO [W] wrote:


I was not hating or whining. I was merely offering my opinion on the fact that leasing such a large property at this time in eSports may not have been the best thing to do even if they were just getting better.

Lets say they did rent a small one story house and they decided to close it down, that's fine its not profitable. You yourself just said it, its not profitable at all in the west to have a team house why would you lease/rent one that is of such size? Obviously I don't know the cost of such, maybe they had a great deal, but from my own speculation it seems as if they could have done things a bit differently.

As for an ROI, shouldn't a team house be viewed as a long term investment?

I'm obviously speaking as an outsider, but I feel like something like a team house should start on a smaller scale, and have a team grow into it and expand should they need to. Not every team is EG and has money to spend, and even EG decided to locate their facility in Phoenix, AZ which is if I'm not mistaken, a relatively low cost area to live.

On January 13 2013 12:24 nooboon wrote:


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.