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.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 13 2013 03:12 GMT
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compLexity Gaming founder Jason Lake told ESFI in an interview on Saturday that the team’s gaming house in Houston, Texas has closed its doors as of last week.

Lake said one of the chief reasons for its closure was that media content that was planned to be produced out of the house was no longer possible. The person responsible for the media production side of the house needed to attend to other commitments.

“One of our top goals for the house was to turn it into a landing pad for top teams from around the world,” Lake said. “Rather than fly back to Korea when you have another event in ten days, you could just come [to the house] and make it a training facility.”

“The experiment wasn’t bad by any means. We got a lot of player growth and development. But at the end of the day, when we looked at a new year…renewing the lease..we just said we could spend our money elsewhere more wisely. If we could get a few top tier players, that would make more sense.”

Launched in mid-July 2012, the five-bedroom estate housed Kevin “qxc” Riley, Michael “goswser” Dobler, Gage “Sasquatch” Dubose, Joshua “TriMaster” Niven and player manager Scott Ford. Korean Kim “GanZi” Dong Joo also had a short stint at the house before leaving the team after the two parties failed to agree to new contract terms. Other players, including members of the Heroes of Newerth team, were eventually moved in as well.

Players were on a training schedule during their stay there, and several players made gains in their skill. Most recently, Michael “goswser” Dobler, who began his relationship with compLexity by joining their academy and is now on Millenium, defeated Korean Terran Jung “Mvp” Jong Hyun in three straight maps in the Iron Squid round-of-16. He faces ESFI’s player of the year, StarTale’s Life, in the next round.

“I’m sure at some point, there will be a house #3,” Jason Lake guaranteed. “We still believe in the concept, we were just swinging for a home run on this one, and we got a double.”

The complete video interview with Jason Lake will be released on Saturday.


Source: http://www.esfiworld.com/complexity-gaming-house-closes/
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.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 13 2013 03:14 GMT
#2
Sucks to see another team house close up shop here in the NA. So that leaves EG and Clarity as the only NA teams with houses here right?
Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
January 13 2013 03:15 GMT
#3
too bad, I thought qxc was starting to show some real progress

nonetheless, I'm excited to see what the money goes into now ^^
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 13 2013 03:17 GMT
#4
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 13 2013 03:19 GMT
#5
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.

I'm still on the thought that Polt's going to TL in a semi-limited capacity. Seems like a long shot, but it makes a lot of sense.

Too bad about the house. I think it's interesting that the person who may have most benefited from it is no longer on the team. I probably wouldn't have known of its existence if I wasn't a qxc stream viewer.
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 13 2013 03:20 GMT
#6
Mionix.Polt
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1800 Posts
January 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#7
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.

coL may still be an option, if Polt just stays in a dorm room at his college/uni.
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
January 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#8
This sucks that they had to close their training house the guys really seemed to benefit from having a place to train.
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Duggibobo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden111 Posts
January 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#9
Sucks, but well, a rather stupid thing to rent a luxury mansion when there obviously isn't not enough money to live in mansions in this sport YET.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#10
damn. coL making all these budget cuts and shit. They better pick up Flash with all that money they now have to spend =D
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 13 2013 03:24 GMT
#11
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 13 2013 03:26 GMT
#12
On January 13 2013 12:24 nooboon wrote:
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On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.


I'm sure he'll find a team. He's one of the top ten most successful players in Wings of Liberty, is probably the best Korean with English, has over 10,000 Twitter followers and is focused on foreign tournaments.

Just might be something different.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 03:29:47
January 13 2013 03:29 GMT
#13
I guess this is the death knell of coL as a SC2 pro team

This also rules out Polt joining coL as so many people thought probably, so I expect either a personal sponsorship or just solo living. I had a feeling this would happen with all of coL's problems recently.
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MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 03:32:00
January 13 2013 03:30 GMT
#14
Well, ya, this announcement makes sense. Put that rent money to another purpose if you're not getting much money out of the house. Honestly I'd wondered if a lot of NA team owners weren't buying a house, then using the team to rent it to offset the mortgage. A much more reasonable solution from a financial standpoint. But apparently NA team owners were renting from random non-esports people. Less capital investment, but rent is expensive.

Edit: And this certainly isn't the deathknell of coL as a SC2 team. They've still got players, and look like they're pretty much going to be the same middle-of-the-road Complexity they've been for awhile. A good organization. People need to stop expecting every team to fold immediately. Heck, NSHoSeo has been around far longer than everyone expected them to be around... a stable team like Complexity will likely not disappear any time soon.
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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 13 2013 03:31 GMT
#15
SC2's death is coming a little faster every day...
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
January 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#16
super sad and unexpected
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 13 2013 03:33 GMT
#17
Too bad, it seems Sasquatch and goswser have gotten a lot better since being there.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 13 2013 03:34 GMT
#18
I'm surprised the announcement came out through ESFI, but I know this has been planned for a little bit now. Shame to see them closing up shop right as we open up ours.
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MotorDouglas
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil66 Posts
January 13 2013 03:34 GMT
#19
On January 13 2013 12:31 Shinespark wrote:
SC2's death is coming a little faster every day...

oh boy, here it goes
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
January 13 2013 03:35 GMT
#20
:/

I think I called it when I said Disbanded TSL vs Dying coL.
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