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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
January 13 2013 21:42 GMT
#161
more signs of the bubble deflating, sad times hopefully HotS will renew intrest and more money to be thrown in to prop up ventures like this
FlashDave.999 aka Star
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
January 13 2013 21:49 GMT
#162
i like how they used a baseball reference at the end. like most nerds would get it. LOL

User was temp banned for this post.
:-)
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
January 13 2013 22:22 GMT
#163
Closing the house will severely hurt the team.
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DocFletchLXG
Profile Joined December 2011
United States27 Posts
January 13 2013 22:24 GMT
#164
You guys make me want to cut myself. Buck up folks, starcraft will never die as long as we keep playing and enjoying the game we love.

Some of y'all are to damn depressing
The Doc is in...
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-13 23:01:41
January 13 2013 22:58 GMT
#165
On January 14 2013 06:26 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 06:13 AnomalySC2 wrote:
There just aren't enough viewers yet to support team houses in esports. More viewers = more sponsor interest = more money. Simple concept really.


I don't think it's necessarily the number of viewers that's the problem. I think it's just completely pointless to setup and operate a team house outside of Korea. None of the team houses that operate in North America or Europe have produced any truly meaningful results or growth within the players. More than once we've seen players drastically improve from even relatively short stays in Korea. Simply you cant train on NA ladder and complete with the KR ladder.


Yeah I guess that's another part of the problem :\

Koreans OP

Edit: I think that problem is going to hit LoL as well. Already korean pro teams are already on a much higher level than NA or EU.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 00:16:20
January 14 2013 00:16 GMT
#166
On January 13 2013 12:35 Seeker wrote:
:/

I think I called it when I said Disbanded TSL vs Dying coL.


you are the prophet of the apocalypse
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Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
January 14 2013 00:25 GMT
#167
What is happening in korea is partially just because Kespa is saturating that market for teams and teams fail and fall short all the time. Overall I think getting Azubu into sc2 seriously and Axiom created is worth more then the loss of Slayers and Quantic.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
January 14 2013 00:52 GMT
#168
On January 13 2013 12:26 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:24 nooboon wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.


I'm sure he'll find a team. He's one of the top ten most successful players in Wings of Liberty, is probably the best Korean with English, has over 10,000 Twitter followers and is focused on foreign tournaments.

How so?
Mvp, MMA, MC, NesTea, Stephano, DRG, Leenock, Life, MKP and Parting are all more successful than Polt even if Stephano, Leenock, Parting and MKP didn't exactly won GSL championship.

He is definitely top, though.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 14 2013 00:59 GMT
#169
On January 14 2013 09:52 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:26 Fionn wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:24 nooboon wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.


I'm sure he'll find a team. He's one of the top ten most successful players in Wings of Liberty, is probably the best Korean with English, has over 10,000 Twitter followers and is focused on foreign tournaments.

How so?
Mvp, MMA, MC, NesTea, Stephano, DRG, Leenock, Life, MKP and Parting are all more successful than Polt even if Stephano, Leenock, Parting and MKP didn't exactly won GSL championship.

He is definitely top, though.

Polt is actually above PartinG and Life in all-time earnings.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 14 2013 01:16 GMT
#170
On January 14 2013 09:52 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 12:26 Fionn wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:24 nooboon wrote:
On January 13 2013 12:17 Fionn wrote:
So Azubu is out on Polt, EG or TL is unlikely, and Complexity closed their house.

Incoming Polt.Polt.


FXO.NA.POLT? Still an option although its starting to look like Polt will have to forgo joining a team. CSL still an option though.


I'm sure he'll find a team. He's one of the top ten most successful players in Wings of Liberty, is probably the best Korean with English, has over 10,000 Twitter followers and is focused on foreign tournaments.

How so?
Mvp, MMA, MC, NesTea, Stephano, DRG, Leenock, Life, MKP and Parting are all more successful than Polt even if Stephano, Leenock, Parting and MKP didn't exactly won GSL championship.

He is definitely top, though.


That's not the point, he still is on top of the earnings list and is an incredibly popular player who often turns out to be the Terran hope in tournaments. Sure there are higher players on the earnings list, but Polt has that rare combination of personality, English skills and Terran that makes him a better choice for teams than a MMA or PartinG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 14 2013 02:05 GMT
#171
Not really surprising considering that foreigners keep falling further and further behind koreans. Who the hell wants to support a team when none of their players are even top 100 in the world? Personality and white skin can only take you so far in the world of starcraft. Combine that with declining viewership for SCII, and there's no way sponsors are going to fund these all these teams. Honestly, I think that in a few years the only foreigner teams that even exist will be ones that are stacked with korean players.
Unshapely
Profile Joined November 2012
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 06:35:09
January 14 2013 06:31 GMT
#172
On January 14 2013 06:49 LeeDawg wrote:
i like how they used a baseball reference at the end. like most nerds would get it. LOL

User was temp banned for this post.


Why was this man ostracised for this particular post?

Though back on topic, it is disheartening to read of this news. Perhaps their training regime wasn't successful, in which case they made a wise decision but it still is a sad loss. Practice makes a man perfect, without practice and training they cannot hope to achieve much.
That is not dead which can eternal lie; and with strange aeons even death may die.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
January 14 2013 07:02 GMT
#173
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ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
January 14 2013 07:03 GMT
#174
On January 14 2013 06:49 LeeDawg wrote:
i like how they used a baseball reference at the end. like most nerds would get it. LOL

User was temp banned for this post.

mmmmm yup i got it
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
January 14 2013 10:19 GMT
#175
i wasn't talking about earnings. some tournaments had unreasonably high prize pool. st was worth like two regular gsls in prizes but i don't think it's twice the accomplishement. i was talking about career accomplishments, though i agree he is extremely popular, speaks best english and has enjoyable personality so he definitely is in top 10 in value
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
January 14 2013 10:48 GMT
#176
It sucks, but gaming houses in the US are just not viable due to how spread out events are. They need to centralise the tournaments in one area, then team houses can open around that. However, you are then limiting the people who can come and see the events. It's a lose lose
afxLk
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2 Posts
January 14 2013 14:06 GMT
#177
On January 14 2013 07:22 Genie1 wrote:
Closing the house will severely hurt the team.


I don't think this is true, if money is an issue then this will help them since they just cut a massive expense.
skYTosS
Profile Joined January 2013
United States188 Posts
January 14 2013 14:22 GMT
#178
Good move.
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
January 14 2013 15:55 GMT
#179
beginning of the end ;\
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
January 14 2013 15:59 GMT
#180
coL done in a few months time I'm guessing. Not like their players were putting up enough results to warrant such a crazy estate anyway.
The universe created an audience for itself.
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