Yeah this line makes absolutely no sense at all, and I think they know it. They are just trying to save some face for the decision. Anyone who might have been confused by strange start position rules before will still be confused afterwards. And in the vast majority of cases, newer/worse players won't even notice, they will just play as if all spawns are the available and will live happily ever after not knowing.

The best part was they already had Shakuras in the mappool which had spawn exceptions LOL.

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

January 12 2013 02:57 GMT

#43

On January 12 2013 10:12 juicyjames wrote:

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Yes! This was probably one of my biggest concerns that went seemingly unaddressed going into HotS!

YES. That is the best news I have read from blizzard since patch 7 of hots. So happy for a better map pool

JOJOsc2news

3000 Posts

January 12 2013 02:59 GMT

#44

On January 12 2013 11:10 Garnet wrote:
They should have a warning or smt during the loading screen about cross-spawn only. Not everyone read TL or Bnet.

patch notes?

jake1138

United States82 Posts

January 12 2013 03:00 GMT

#45

On January 12 2013 11:33 Highways wrote:
Why don't they just remove to root on fungal..

I agree, that is the bigger problem. Have it do more damage over time and remove the snare or keep the damage as it is and have it slow the targets instead (by 20% or something but not too much otherwise you're back to the same problem).

Laryleprakon

New Zealand9496 Posts

January 12 2013 03:07 GMT

#46

Blizzard finally changing there map policy!!! ^_^

Goldfish

2230 Posts

January 12 2013 03:13 GMT

#47

On January 12 2013 10:19 Xpace wrote:
"We've held off on these changes until now primarily because we thought having different sets of hidden start location rules for each map might be confusing to lower level players."
"At this point we feel that most StarCraft II players have a solid understanding of starting locations on each map."

Wait, what?

Blizzard team thinking everyone are nubs.

Also similar to the Diablo III phenomenon known as "why we even have an 'Elective Mode'" or "we can't give players choice because what if they tried using three armors or four mantras at once!!!!111 (despite tooltip clearly stating you can't!)" >.>.

LeeDawg

United States1306 Posts

January 12 2013 03:18 GMT

#48

blizzard: 1 year late on goddamn everything

maybe if they made these changes in 2012 or 2011 i would still care about sc2

Insomni7

667 Posts

January 12 2013 03:20 GMT

#49

Couldn't they just put in simple icons on the minimap at the start of the game indicating where you opponent can spawn? They could be removed after youve cleared the fog in the area.

lichter

1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts

January 12 2013 03:23 GMT

#50

Nice changes, hopefully Blizz implement more interesting maps.

Confuse

2238 Posts

January 12 2013 03:26 GMT

#51

If they do this infested terran change, Blizzard, I implore you - lower the base damage/armor of IT and let the upgrades max out to the current non-upgraded one. I can't advocate having only one unit in the game not be affected by upgrades > . >

( bush

321 Posts

January 12 2013 03:29 GMT

#52

god damnit, dont they realize TvZ matchup was near perfect before the great idea of adding 2 range to queens and AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME buffing +25% speed to overlord?

mprs

Canada2933 Posts

January 12 2013 03:29 GMT

#53

On January 12 2013 12:18 LeeDawg wrote:
blizzard: 1 year late on goddamn everything

maybe if they made these changes in 2012 or 2011 i would still care about sc2

You know, out of all the people who care about sc2, only the very caring take the time to post in Teamliquid about SC2. I think you still care.

Regardless, all good changes... Better late than never.

NKexquisite

United States911 Posts

January 12 2013 03:43 GMT

#54

What happened with Blizzard today? Why are they releasing all of these mini-announcements?

I'm nervous and somewhat scared by this... It seems very "un-Blizzard-like"... And doesn't something bad seem to always follow these slight happy times?

Hmmmmm

netherDrake

Singapore1831 Posts

January 12 2013 03:46 GMT

#55

pretty late regarding the map changes, but still appreciated nonetheless. good to see them interacting more and listening to the community in recent weeks

WhiteSatin

United States308 Posts

January 12 2013 03:53 GMT

#56

On January 12 2013 12:29 ( bush wrote:
god damnit, dont they realize TvZ matchup was near perfect before the great idea of adding 2 range to queens and AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME buffing +25% speed to overlord?

the "buff" for the Z were meant to address issues with PvZ according to them
and they did not realize it completely DESTROYED the TvZ match up which I believe, at the time of the patch was about at 50% so perfectly balanced..

I agree that there needs to be infestor nerfs because people started abusing it and massing it, but you are correct..
a good idea is to bring back the original queen range and remove overlord speed.

also, I'd like to point out..
does anyone remember the good old times when creep spread was actually something that only top notch zerg could do ? and there was artosis going crazy about the beautiful creep spread.
now, the average random master Z in my division has creep spread at my natural at the 13 min mark..
takes no skill to spread creep cause Z are all going 4/5/6 queens. Another minor nerf idea should be to reduce the radius of the creep spreading and as well that creeps to recedes faster when overlord/creep tumor are being killed..

Grumbels

Netherlands7032 Posts

January 12 2013 04:03 GMT

#57

Blizzard's "must keep casuals happy" policy is really obnoxious at times. They prefer having the ladder unplayable over adding the slightest complexity to the game. And well, easiest thing in the world to add: "close spawning positions disabled" as a tip during the loading of the map. Or they could add two new maps and two new vetos if you get to diamond league or higher, so that they can add more tournament maps for the people that care.

TAMinator

Australia2706 Posts

January 12 2013 04:29 GMT

#58

A good start. Maps are really important.

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

January 12 2013 04:35 GMT

#59

I hope that with their new focus on adding in tournament maps in HotS, they also are open to keeping more of their special "innovations" in the ladder versions, such as 6m1g bases, neutral creep blockers, and other interesting features. For example, maps like Tal'Darim and Daybreak were changed when they became ladder maps, arguably for the worse by changing 6m1g expansions into 8m2g expos and adding rocks to thirds.

number01

203 Posts

January 12 2013 04:49 GMT

#60

On January 12 2013 12:43 NKexquisite wrote:
What happened with Blizzard today? Why are they releasing all of these mini-announcements?

I'm nervous and somewhat scared by this... It seems very "un-Blizzard-like"... And doesn't something bad seem to always follow these slight happy times?

Hmmmmm

Picture it like a congressman that wants to be elected. As soon as elections start to come closer, they start fixing things making speeches, doing things here and there. HOTS is about to be released in a few months, Blizzard wants to look like a good company so people will buy their products.