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Complexity and Heart part ways - Page 4

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florious80
Profile Joined July 2011
United States17 Posts
January 09 2013 21:08 GMT
#61
On January 10 2013 05:29 PhoenixDark wrote:
I doubt complexity will have a SC2 team in 6 months


Completely agree. By shedding so many players recently, there's almost a sense that they are heading towards a different direction, probably a different game altogether.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 09 2013 21:10 GMT
#62
Well then. Have to say, I am glad to see Heart maybe able to branch to a better team. CoL has fallen off a lot because they have been dropping so many good players.
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PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
January 09 2013 21:16 GMT
#63
Man change of feelings on this. I just hope Complexity stay as a sc2 team. Good luck to Heart and Team Complexity.
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
January 09 2013 21:18 GMT
#64
I question Complexitys SC2 strategy, this seems very odd. What is the point in buying and selling players constantly, does that reflect well on the brand? Maybe there are cheaper and better koreans out there right now, maybe Heart was too expensive, but at some point you need to keep players around so that they get associated with the team and the brand.

Does that fancy Complexity house come with a pool, a boat, and revolving doors?
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
January 09 2013 21:20 GMT
#65
I think a lot of teams will be dropping sc2. The ones that survive will be the powerhouse teams like ST,EGTL etc.

I've noticed that investors are really nit feeling sc2 anymore. No real money to be made.. well at least its been tried and tested and so far not worth it in the long run.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
January 09 2013 21:20 GMT
#66
What's happening with Complexity?? They get rid of the DotA team, and now the SC2 team? Are they closing down or wat?
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
January 09 2013 21:22 GMT
#67
Looks like compexity is giving up on the korean players experiment. I think they were expecting more in terms of personality, exposure and accessibility and didn't get a huge buy in to that from them. They really stress their players promoting their team and sponsors. The cost of the koreans compared to the return complexity was getting from them probably didn't make sense from their point of view. They want results and promotion, but only got results and only modest ones. The korean teams sending their players to as many foreign tournaments as they did probably didn't occue to complexity when they signed them and expected to just sweep. Too bad.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
January 09 2013 21:23 GMT
#68
pretty obvious that this would happen if you are following scene

gl Heart and coL
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-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
January 09 2013 21:25 GMT
#69
On January 10 2013 06:18 Legio wrote:
I question Complexitys SC2 strategy, this seems very odd. What is the point in buying and selling players constantly, does that reflect well on the brand? Maybe there are cheaper and better koreans out there right now, maybe Heart was too expensive, but at some point you need to keep players around so that they get associated with the team and the brand.

Does that fancy Complexity house come with a pool, a boat, and revolving doors?


It has the "Mothership" >.>... You can only imagine how much it cost. It's the truth behind all the players leaving. We have to make up somewhere @_@
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derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 21:27:02
January 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#70
Dont worry you will find another team and will always be in my Heart
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steelskAz
Profile Joined December 2012
France6 Posts
January 09 2013 21:28 GMT
#71
coL is in trouble ? :s
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Hermanoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden213 Posts
January 09 2013 21:30 GMT
#72
Someone already pointed out that Heart is living with the Axiom players and might also have pointed this out:

TB's twitter

"Good, now that announcement is done, we can announce our new player in the next couple of days".

Axiom seems to be a likely destination.
xyzåäö
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
January 09 2013 21:31 GMT
#73
Killer left, and then GanZi left. This move makes a lot of sense. Heart shouldn't be on a team where he is the only Korean player. Good luck in your future endeavors Heart!
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robzgod
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
78 Posts
January 09 2013 21:35 GMT
#74
On January 10 2013 04:58 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 04:53 ssg wrote:
Killer, Nada, Heart, and Ganzi. So much for that competent Korean team.


In all honesty, the Korean free agent market right now is so saturated that it might be better for Complexity to just start over. If Complexity now has money to spend, they could probably grab Polt, Symbol and Supernova and come out as a top team in the foreign scene. Heart's case was more than likely him moving to Axiom where he lives with the team already, but I don't mind Complexity not extending contracts if they are going to fill the roster spots with top end players.

Signing just a single Polt or even Parting won't make Complexity a top foreign team again, but adding three of the top Korean free agents would push them right back towards the top and make these decisions of letting their old Koreans go look amazing.

I expect Complexity to reload better than ever, so let's see what they do. There are a lot of top Koreans on the market and now they should have the funds to grab some.

Or they might just invest more into their LoL team that qualified for the Season 3 LA event this weekend.
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TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
January 09 2013 21:40 GMT
#75
the strategy of signing mid-tier koreans and fly them to events all over the world just doesn't work anymore, if you aim for tournament wins. Heart has done way better than anyone could seriously expect so I wonder why they did part ways...
Topzerg
Profile Joined November 2012
64 Posts
January 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#76
The way complexity manages their team is absolutly terrible.. there's no way you can create an emotional bond with that team when they change their whole roster every year. What a shame.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
January 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#77
Definitely expecting him to go to Ax. CoL has really collapsed honestly..
can i get my estro logo back pls
birchman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden393 Posts
January 09 2013 22:03 GMT
#78
Well, from their statement, it seems like they are doing some economic planning. Putting money in where money comes, I guess.

Still, best of luck to Heart!
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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 09 2013 22:08 GMT
#79
translation: we shut down sc2 and expand to moba games in the future
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 09 2013 22:11 GMT
#80
Good luck to Heart.

It must be hard to be a complexity fan with how much they change there roster.
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