Supernova gets a new look - Page 18
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On December 29 2012 03:24 mahO wrote: This. I mean if someone really feels unhappy about his appearance I can somehow understand the need to change it, well not personally but I guess I could get that, but I checked for a good minute the pictures to check if the ears were the same, the neck, because I really couldnt recognize him at ALL, thats just wrong, it's not the same person... Funny thing about people saying stuff like that is that they think they aren't being shallow, when they are actually being ridiculously shallow. "He doesn't look the same, so he's a different person". His looks are just that, how he looks. He's the exact same person. It's like changing your fashion, just far more expensive and invasive. | ||
Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On December 29 2012 02:26 Xpace wrote: AESTHETIC ENHANCEMENT, AUGMENTATIVE or COSMETIC surgery is completely different from CORRECTIVE, or RECONSTRUCTIVE surgery; not so much in their practical applications, but in their reasoning. There is a big difference between fixing abnormalities caused by accidents such as burns, or repairing human functions from impairment, to "I want to look like a pop star." My original quote + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2012 21:44 Xpace wrote: Respect as a human being: Gone. Respect as a pro-gamer: Still there. Just my 2c. Plastic surgery? What was wrong with him beforehand?? Please note my question at the end: "What was wrong with him beforehand?" Were his eyes so impaired that he couldn't see the mini-map clearly and he therefore needed corrective surgery to continue his career as a pro-gamer as a way to make a living? Or was he simply dissatisfied with his looks that he wanted to look more like a K-drama supporting actor? Crooked teeth leads to things like periodontal disease and chronic inflammation; they're also harder to clean even if you're diligent about brushing and flossing. I'm not a dentist nor have I read beyond the pamphlets and posters I come across when I visit my dentist, so I won't go into this topic too far; but as you mentioned yourself, those individuals are CORRECTING their teeth for reasons related to health and hygiene. That's a pretty bad strawman; I don't even know how to start with the haircut comparison. Seriously, what was wrong with him beforehand? "Trying to feel better about myself" - seriously? Don't post stupid things that. You want to feel better about yourself? Volunteer at a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen. Donate some clothes you never wear to that man in rags down the street. Sponsor as many children as you can in Bangladesh. Make friends with that guy who has no friends because of his looks. There are many ways to reward yourself and make yourself feel like a good human being than "I want to look like X because Hollywood says so." I'm not hating on the guy. I'm not saying what he did was wrong. I'm not advocating that other people should look down on those who want to go under the knife to look like the people they see in magazines and on TV. It's just my personal opinion; I dislike aesthetic plastic surgery, I consider it unnecessary and fake, and I don't like how society pushes men to look like X, or women to look like Y, especially when the level of what's considered "beautiful" or "attractive" is so twisted and malformed by companies who are out to push products by shoving the face of a person who's 1 in 10'000 or 100'000, with a crew of 10 people applying make-up, lighting, and unrealistic scenarios topped off by abhorrent transformations through Photoshop or whatnot. A woman shouldn't need Cosmopolitan or Vogue to tell her she's beautiful, a man shouldn't need to look like a Calvin Klein underwear model to be confident in himself, people shouldn't need to feel so insecure that they'd twist themselves to conform to an unrealistic standard. I'm repeating it one last time; this is just my opinion on the matter. I do not and will not try and stop somebody from doing whatever makes them happy. But I have the right to judge someone as I see fit, just as some people judge me, fairly or unfairly, for whatever I do or don't do. What was wrong with him beforehand? Ok, so by that logic you must dress really poorly and never wear perfume. Bad clothes tend to be cheaper, so if you don't care about looks (because by your logic if you were feeling bad about yourself (which bad looks tend to do) you would go to a homeless shelter instead of changing your appearance by means of better clothes), might as well buy the cheapest thing. I suppose you also never put perfume, because it's also fake. Plastic surgery is as fake as makeup, or as fake as when you properly comb your hair with gel, or when you put perfume, or when you buy clothes that make you look more slim, or more fit... just not as permanent (except tatoos), at least for the time being. I also suppose, if there was a way to increase one's intelligence, you for sure, wouldn't take that, because it's fake, and because even if average there wasn't anything wrong with it before. "What's wrong with him?" Nothing, he just wanted to look better. At the end of your post i do agree with your words. We are pushed to very high heights of attractiveness and by comparison people feel less confident, but still that's not Supernova's fault... so that's why i think you were misleading your anger to Supernova when you actually meant to direct it at companies that portray beauty unrealisticly. | ||
eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On December 29 2012 03:26 Tobberoth wrote: Funny thing about people saying stuff like that is that they think they aren't being shallow, when they are actually being ridiculously shallow. "He doesn't look the same, so he's a different person". His looks are just that, how he looks. He's the exact same person. It's like changing your fashion, just far more expensive and invasive. its really not. Changing your appearance via cosmetic surgery has a massive psychological effect, most people who have it also have a large shift in self perception and personality. Changing your clothes might make you feel better about yourself, but it doesn't change who you are, because when you look in the mirror you still have the same face and body staring back at you. | ||
KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
wtf am i reading. lets get bionical arms and completly new heads, its all just makeup :D | ||
ragz_gt
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mahO
France274 Posts
On December 29 2012 03:26 Tobberoth wrote: Funny thing about people saying stuff like that is that they think they aren't being shallow, when they are actually being ridiculously shallow. "He doesn't look the same, so he's a different person". His looks are just that, how he looks. He's the exact same person. It's like changing your fashion, just far more expensive and invasive. I'm talking about HIM, idiot, I'm not being shallow, he changed his own FACE, the face he saw in the mirror since his birth, the face he got from his genes, his elders, his parents, its part of HIM, I dont give a shit, I'm not judging, I'm saying its unhealthy to change your face to a point where his parents, his friends, will hardly recognize him, and even himself, will have trouble with it. There is a reason people have an obligation to get checked psychologically after changing face, so no, its not like "changing fashion" rofl Edit : It is to a point where fans wont recognize him at all at events, like "who the fuck is this guy?" "dunno maybe a broodwar pro", I mean seriously, you change your face that much if you want to go to Mexico and change identity | ||
DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On December 28 2012 23:18 Wildmoon wrote: I think he looked better before. He looks kinda girlish with this new look. every single good looking korean men look kinda girlish | ||
Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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hootsushi
Germany3468 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On December 29 2012 04:18 ROOTFayth wrote: every single good looking korean men look kinda girlish there are a few exceptions, but i can only think of reach lool and lets be honest people, look at his eyes in the before picture it was showing like less then 20% of his eye. The surgery did make him look better, and being a young adult Korean that's in the spotlight a lot he was probably thinking about it for a long time. I just hope SK doesn't escalate in to full body morphing like some of those Japenese men to look like women. | ||
sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On December 29 2012 04:00 Apolo wrote: Ok, so by that logic you must dress really poorly and never wear perfume. Bad clothes tend to be cheaper, so if you don't care about looks (because by your logic if you were feeling bad about yourself (which bad looks tend to do) you would go to a homeless shelter instead of changing your appearance by means of better clothes), might as well buy the cheapest thing. I suppose you also never put perfume, because it's also fake. Plastic surgery is as fake as makeup, or as fake as when you properly comb your hair with gel, or when you put perfume, or when you buy clothes that make you look more slim, or more fit... just not as permanent (except tatoos), at least for the time being. I also suppose, if there was a way to increase one's intelligence, you for sure, wouldn't take that, because it's fake, and because even if average there wasn't anything wrong with it before. "What's wrong with him?" Nothing, he just wanted to look better. At the end of your post i do agree with your words. We are pushed to very high heights of attractiveness and by comparison people feel less confident, but still that's not Supernova's fault... so that's why i think you were misleading your anger to Supernova when you actually meant to direct it at companies that portray beauty unrealisticly. i actually have alot less respect for people that get plastic surgery, put makeup on or try to "fake" what they look like, i dont care if someone isn't a supermodel but i do care if you are basically trying to physically lie (in my eyes) about what you look like, it feels dishonest | ||
Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
On December 29 2012 04:29 sc14s wrote: i actually have alot less respect for people that get plastic surgery, put makeup on or try to "fake" what they look like, i dont care if someone isn't a supermodel but i do care if you are basically trying to physically lie (in my eyes) about what you look like, it feels dishonest It's not a lie if they do look like that. You're assuming how they used to be is how they really are which isn't the case. They are as they present themselves. Who are you to define someones individual reality? | ||
QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
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Canada382 Posts
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