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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 29 2012 00:06 Exoteric wrote: if he wanted to get surgery, good for him, i don't see why he should be looked down at for it It's more like why he should be looked down before it | ||
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nemonic
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Michaels
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On December 29 2012 00:10 Gladiator333 wrote: It's more like why he should be looked down before it Because that is the mentality that the media has been pushing, an arbitrary standard of "this is what beauty is supposed to look like" that keeps being fed to the masses over and over. And then, you advertise products that make people feel really insecure, products that will help them reach that arbitrary standard. And if you think this is bad here in the west, with "hey women need to look like a cross between a famous porn star and Barbie or else you're ugly" and "men need to look like [insert random celebrity actor here]", well as it turns out for some reason this attitude is a lot more prevalent in Korea than here. So there you go. Like I said, it's an awful situation but I'm not sure that it can even be changed at this point for the people whose tastes and wills have already been molded and brainwashed into buying tons of cosmetics and having surgeries. | ||
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Grettin
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On December 28 2012 23:46 ZerglingTwins wrote: Not all Asian, just Korean, I think. Chinese and Japanese basically never do this kind of thing, celebrity would be bashed to death if media knows about it. In Korea basically every celebrity denies having surgery, even though its extremely common among the general population and most celebrities have double eyelids. | ||
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Apolo
Portugal1259 Posts
On December 28 2012 21:44 Xpace wrote: Respect as a human being: Gone. Respect as a pro-gamer: Still there. Just my 2c. Plastic surgery? What was wrong with him beforehand?? I guess you don't respect women that put silicone as well? Then you wouldn't also respect people in general that put makeup, right? Oooo bad me, trying to feel better about myself by changing the way i look. Who cares if my self-esteem is crap right? I will lose respect as a human being if i do comestic surgery. Seriously.... don't post stupid things like that. | ||
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polpot
3002 Posts
I will miss the old Supernova. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On December 28 2012 13:20 Fionn wrote: Who has the Before and After pictures of Stork? He wins in terms of changing one's look. Well the biggest problem stork had were acne.As far as I know he never actually had surgery. | ||
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29 fps
United States5720 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
 On December 28 2012 23:18 Makro wrote: yes now he's completely different, time to scout some girls now :D He's got a girlfriend. Said so on his stream. | ||
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WhX
Germany778 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On December 29 2012 00:26 Apolo wrote: I guess you don't respect women that put silicone as well? Then you wouldn't also respect people in general that put makeup, right? Oooo bad me, trying to feel better about myself by changing the way i look. Who cares if my self-esteem is crap right? I will lose respect as a human being if i do comestic surgery. Seriously.... don't post stupid things like that. But...the media...beauty standards...personality... | ||
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nooboon
2602 Posts
In the off season of SC2, we have not lots to talk about that isn't players leaving teams or moving to a new one. As your reading this, you can experience the new supernova yourself as he is streaming with a webcam. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
great looking guy now ahah | ||
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SomeONEx
Sweden641 Posts
looks great now though :D | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
There is a big difference between fixing abnormalities caused by accidents such as burns, or repairing human functions from impairment, to "I want to look like a pop star." My original quote + Show Spoiler + On December 28 2012 21:44 Xpace wrote: Respect as a human being: Gone. Respect as a pro-gamer: Still there. Just my 2c. Plastic surgery? What was wrong with him beforehand?? Please note my question at the end: "What was wrong with him beforehand?" Were his eyes so impaired that he couldn't see the mini-map clearly and he therefore needed corrective surgery to continue his career as a pro-gamer as a way to make a living? Or was he simply dissatisfied with his looks that he wanted to look more like a K-drama supporting actor? On December 28 2012 22:22 Snowbear wrote: In Belgium it's almost standard to correct your teeth around age 14-15 (braces). I wonder if this plastic surgery is the next step? Ask yourself: if 80% of the children get plastic surgery from their parents, would you give it also to your child? If you don't, it won't fit in the "group". Sad but true  And WOW @ Stork! Crooked teeth leads to things like periodontal disease and chronic inflammation; they're also harder to clean even if you're diligent about brushing and flossing. I'm not a dentist nor have I read beyond the pamphlets and posters I come across when I visit my dentist, so I won't go into this topic too far; but as you mentioned yourself, those individuals are CORRECTING their teeth for reasons related to health and hygiene. On December 28 2012 22:15 Corrosive wrote: You lost your respect for someone because they didn't like how they looked and they changed it? Do you lose your respect for people who cut their hair? He just had his eyelids done. That's a pretty bad strawman; I don't even know how to start with the haircut comparison. Seriously, what was wrong with him beforehand? On December 29 2012 00:26 Apolo wrote: I guess you don't respect women that put silicone as well? Then you wouldn't also respect people in general that put makeup, right? Oooo bad me, trying to feel better about myself by changing the way i look. Who cares if my self-esteem is crap right? I will lose respect as a human being if i do comestic surgery. Seriously.... don't post stupid things like that. "Trying to feel better about myself" - seriously? Don't post stupid things that. You want to feel better about yourself? Volunteer at a homeless shelter or a soup kitchen. Donate some clothes you never wear to that man in rags down the street. Sponsor as many children as you can in Bangladesh. Make friends with that guy who has no friends because of his looks. There are many ways to reward yourself and make yourself feel like a good human being than "I want to look like X because Hollywood says so." I'm not hating on the guy. I'm not saying what he did was wrong. I'm not advocating that other people should look down on those who want to go under the knife to look like the people they see in magazines and on TV. It's just my personal opinion; I dislike aesthetic plastic surgery, I consider it unnecessary and fake, and I don't like how society pushes men to look like X, or women to look like Y, especially when the level of what's considered "beautiful" or "attractive" is so twisted and malformed by companies who are out to push products by shoving the face of a person who's 1 in 10'000 or 100'000, with a crew of 10 people applying make-up, lighting, and unrealistic scenarios topped off by abhorrent transformations through Photoshop or whatnot. A woman shouldn't need Cosmopolitan or Vogue to tell her she's beautiful, a man shouldn't need to look like a Calvin Klein underwear model to be confident in himself, people shouldn't need to feel so insecure that they'd twist themselves to conform to an unrealistic standard. I'm repeating it one last time; this is just my opinion on the matter. I do not and will not try and stop somebody from doing whatever makes them happy. But I have the right to judge someone as I see fit, just as some people judge me, fairly or unfairly, for whatever I do or don't do. What was wrong with him beforehand? | ||
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julianto
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