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Penev
28476 Posts
My contract still had five months left on it, and the contract did not have any clauses to modify the content of the contract, which made me unable to accept his demand Jason Lake says this: We simply offered GanZi a lesser salary for 2013 (his contract expires in March) (So new contract taking effect in april 2013?) Maybe someone could ask both parties to verify. | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
both sides has a version so we cant say whats true | ||
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3682 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 16 2012 20:56 archonOOid wrote: I think i'll side with complexity on this one. First of all please don't take your business negotiations out to the media and secondly it seems fair to me the due to a decline in popularity/health/performance over some time is reflected in the salary. Normally, I would agree. However, in the case of progamers, it is not like they have an association/union they can turn to when they feel they are getting treated unfairly. As for the change in salary, it depends on how the contract was drafted and the terms. Could Taeja have asked TL for a immediate raise after this awesome summer run eventhough his contract still had ways to go? For the next contract, of course things like performance will be taken into consideration. But from Ganzi's perspective, they were asking him to change their existing contract, which he has a right to refuse. Of course, if is like Lake said and that it was for next years contract, then I would side with Complexity. | ||
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dreamseller
Australia914 Posts
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
You're "deeply hurt" because your salary got cut in half? You take that shit personal? Come on... | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
Now, in terms of professional players in other sports, most still get paid their full salary even while injured. Having a guaranteed contract in a professional sport is a lot different than in the area of eSports. eSports organizations simply aren't flush enough to absorb shelling out money to a player that's not streaming, attending tournaments, or anything else they're required to do according to their contract. While it may seem like a negative and dispiriting thing to happen while a player still has many months remaining on his contract, Jason is simply looking to shore up his organization. And there seems to be some confusion regarding whether they were trying to change his immediate salary, or whether this applies to a new contract next year; I'd have to think it's the latter. | ||
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
Sucks for Ganzi though getting injured | ||
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Parlortricks
United States111 Posts
On December 16 2012 22:09 drooL wrote: Sad for Ganzi but tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the problem in this conflict would be on his side. Often, when reasonable contract negotations are brought forward by western teams (involving Koreans) the Koreans seem to be butthurt about them. You're "deeply hurt" because your salary got cut in half? You take that shit personal? Come on... More likely he was hurt when they said they wanted to pick up a "more famous and skilled player" and as a result his next salary would be cut in half. I have to agree with Complexity on this one, Ganzi said he was "demanded" to sign a new contract which would be in accordance to what Lake stated. | ||
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zergTS
8 Posts
On December 16 2012 22:09 drooL wrote: Sad for Ganzi but tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the problem in this conflict would be on his side. Often, when reasonable contract negotations are brought forward by western teams (involving Koreans) the Koreans seem to be butthurt about them. You're "deeply hurt" because your salary got cut in half? You take that shit personal? Come on... I agree with this 100%, it seems silly that players are upset because they're getting less salary, but it makes sense because they are performing worse. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On December 16 2012 22:38 derpface wrote: CoL did everything right from a business perspective. Sucks for Ganzi though getting injured It depends. If the injury is the sole reason for cutting his salary and he are expected to recover from it (no idea if this is the case) then it could be a pretty douchy thing to do. It can be understandable considering the financial situation of many teams, but still pretty douchy. That doesn't necessarily apply in the case though since it's probably not that black and white. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
Btw, i assume ganzi was deeply hurt because they wanted a more skilled player as a reason to cut his salary, but not the salary cut itself? I'm not really sure on this part. edit: Oooops, that was my 1000th post.. | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
Any Dollar is needed...so dont tell things about loyalty etc... | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On December 16 2012 19:55 Jinsho wrote: This is, of course, nonsense. Contract renegotiation is something you do while the contract is still running, before it ends. Which is exactly what they did there. Sounds to me like they wanted him to sign a contract nullifying the one he had... so they could sign a ''better'' player... | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
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