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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
December 16 2012 09:31 GMT
#21
word against word.
Conclusion: do nothing.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10338 Posts
December 16 2012 09:38 GMT
#22
i'm glad there are both sides of the story here

hard to say who's right, col is right in that it is sort of unprofessional to release private conversations like that
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 16 2012 09:40 GMT
#23
Seems to be one man's word against another. Not really anything to be done here.
The universe created an audience for itself.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 16 2012 09:42 GMT
#24
It's a sad situation, but I can see and understand everyone's point of view. I don't think coL should be held accountable for some terrible sin over this or anything.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 16 2012 09:43 GMT
#25
So another case of "He said, she said"
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:44:56
December 16 2012 09:44 GMT
#26
On December 16 2012 18:29 RenSC2 wrote:
From the outside looking in, it seems like Jason Lake negotiates hard, but fairly, when it comes to contracts. It's very standard practice in the western world. Unfortunately for him, I don't think he understands Korean culture yet and the way they seem to negotiate contracts. Following western business practices with eastern players may burn more bridges for Complexity than they can afford when the best players are almost all Korean. He's going to have to learn how to bridge that gap somehow if he wants Complexity to be a force within SC2.


Clearly you do not understand Korean business either. Korean business is cut-throat. Extremely popular and famous singers in korea get overworked and a lot of their money is taken by the record company. Ganzi should have been happy that he was even getting payed when people like MKP are not paid at all.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 16 2012 09:47 GMT
#27
Strange that Ganzi is linking this on TL (if it is his account), even if his account is perfectly true this doesn't really help him in any way get picked up by another team.

I hope Ganzi gets picked up and does well again but with how many great Korean players aren't on teams atm I don't really see it.
EliteSK
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)251 Posts
December 16 2012 09:50 GMT
#28
Seems like its just a bit of miscommunication/language barriers between the two and both sides ended the conversations with different viewpoints on how it went. That's that.
froGGifyre
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:53:33
December 16 2012 09:51 GMT
#29
This screams "please let me join your team, pity me" If you're not performing, do you deserve the money? The obvious answer: no. Is it time to move on from Star 2 Ganzi? Think so,, this did nothing to help you get a team.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 16 2012 09:58 GMT
#30
On December 16 2012 18:31 Grend wrote:
word against word.
Conclusion: do nothing.


This. One side claims that he could've returned to old salary once he has gotten over his injury, and the other said there was no clause like that. I'm tired of people arguing publically without revealing all the information, how are we supposed to come to a sound opinion like that?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 16 2012 10:02 GMT
#31
On December 16 2012 18:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
Strange that Ganzi is linking this on TL (if it is his account), even if his account is perfectly true this doesn't really help him in any way get picked up by another team.

I hope Ganzi gets picked up and does well again but with how many great Korean players aren't on teams atm I don't really see it.

It's the same account that created the stream thread saying he was ganzi and wanted to stream on TL so I assume it is actually him
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smileface
Profile Joined September 2011
76 Posts
December 16 2012 10:07 GMT
#32
On December 16 2012 18:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
Strange that Ganzi is linking this on TL (if it is his account), even if his account is perfectly true this doesn't really help him in any way get picked up by another team.

I hope Ganzi gets picked up and does well again but with how many great Korean players aren't on teams atm I don't really see it.


Since he says, he doesn't want this to happen to anyone else, this is quite a brazen move to do so. This will feed the starcraft drama fanclub and maybe spark a discussion on team managment (again.. what is it with ex-slayers players???).

Young Terran
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom265 Posts
December 16 2012 10:12 GMT
#33
Best of luck Ganzi fighting!
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 16 2012 10:21 GMT
#34
On December 16 2012 18:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
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On December 16 2012 18:31 Grend wrote:
word against word.
Conclusion: do nothing.


This. One side claims that he could've returned to old salary once he has gotten over his injury, and the other said there was no clause like that. I'm tired of people arguing publically without revealing all the information, how are we supposed to come to a sound opinion like that?

Agreed 100%

Not gonna pick sides on here. I've no reason to dislike CoL, and Ganzi told me i need more sex.

I hope both parties can prosper.
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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
December 16 2012 10:22 GMT
#35
I don't like when those things go public, you don't really learn anything since both stories have their biase, and it damages the image of everybody involved.
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Keldrath
Profile Joined July 2010
United States449 Posts
December 16 2012 10:24 GMT
#36
definitely wish you the best of luck Ganzi!
If you want peace... prepare for war.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
December 16 2012 10:25 GMT
#37
On December 16 2012 18:11 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
its time for a witch hunt ?



ps : sadly , korean culture and american culture are quite different and that leads to many inconveniences.


This is a post about facts nothing to do with culture.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 16 2012 10:34 GMT
#38
On December 16 2012 19:22 LeLfe wrote:
I don't like when those things go public, you don't really learn anything since both stories have their biase, and it damages the image of everybody involved.

U said it the best brother

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bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 10:41:59
December 16 2012 10:35 GMT
#39
On December 16 2012 19:25 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:11 bGr.MetHiX wrote:
its time for a witch hunt ?



ps : sadly , korean culture and american culture are quite different and that leads to many inconveniences.


This is a post about facts nothing to do with culture.

Facts? Where are facts? I read trhough every post of this thread but couldnt find any facts.

and what i read was; Ganzi:"Im hurt that someone told me Im not wroth X to him" Lake "It is true that he is not worth X atm to us". Big Drama ....
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sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
December 16 2012 10:42 GMT
#40
There was probably something lost in translation, but tbh nothing really to be said conclusively... where now for Ganzi though? He defo has a better chance in a foreign team
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