EPTNASL4 Video Interviews Day 2 - Page 6
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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Pwnzer
United States617 Posts
On December 12 2012 08:16 Ballack wrote: Erm... While I like your creative way of saying the joke went over my head, the content of that is quite miss-guided. That's partly my fault. I did not perceive his post to be sincere, in fact I assumed it was sarcastic and defended why I don't think this is a laughing matter. To the end of the post you can see that I wrote he shouldn't equate the stuff both of us think are overreactions from the community, with the point I was making. Where we disagree is that he doesn't think my post presented a legitimate gripe, which then made him write sarcastically that we should email sponsors because of it. I didn't think it was a laughing matter, he did. So in reality, this is the current situation: "The point" <-------- "Your head" <------ You understood that Cloud was being sarcastic, but you didn't thoroughly read through my post to identify that I too realized he was in fact being sarcastic, and that I didn't appreciate that fact, thus I wrote my response. Oh man, you even took my joke pretty seriously. Look man, I wasn't trying to talk shit about you. I just happen to find it funny when people read obviously sarcastic comments and try to turn it into some sort of made up drama. I just found it kinda silly you (despite that you realized it was sarcasm) that you made such a serious and kind of overly dramatic reaction to it. Much like how you responded to mine. Cloud making a sarcastic comment in the forums shouldn't be turned into something that needs to be discussed as if he were being absolutely serious. This is why a lot of pro's don't actually post in these forums because they hate when people take their posts and turn them into something they aren't. Look, I still love you and sorry if you were offended, I just don't think it's that serious. Ha | ||
Falling
Canada11370 Posts
It's like Duncan Trussel and the "Glittery, Disco Ball Race" As for the Middle-Earth Europe thing- it's difficult to pin down exactly what Tolkien thought as his letters span decades and he changed his mind over the years. I think it would be fair to say that Middle Earth was inspired geographically from NW Europe at least as far as the detailed descriptions are concerned. I don't think the NW Europe's ethnic groups were somehow supposed to be paralleled (Nor should we be trying to cut up the story to find World War parallels.) | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
Biggest crush on Soe right now...right after Bisu :DDD | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10132 Posts
On December 12 2012 16:00 Falling wrote: Haha. Doesn't like the shiny lights of the Protoss. It's like Duncan Trussel and the "Glittery, Disco Ball Race" As for the Middle-Earth Europe thing- it's difficult to pin down exactly what Tolkien thought as his letters span decades and he changed his mind over the years. I think it would be fair to say that Middle Earth was inspired geographically from NW Europe at least as far as the detailed descriptions are concerned. I don't think the NW Europe's ethnic groups were somehow supposed to be paralleled (Nor should we be trying to cut up the story to find World War parallels.) I always found really interesting finding those parallels. For example how "The field of the death" was inspired shocked me a bit. | ||
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Grettin
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Ballack
Norway821 Posts
On December 12 2012 15:58 Pwnzer wrote: Oh man, you even took my joke pretty seriously. Look man, I wasn't trying to talk shit about you. I just happen to find it funny when people read obviously sarcastic comments and try to turn it into some sort of made up drama. I just found it kinda silly you (despite that you realized it was sarcasm) that you made such a serious and kind of overly dramatic reaction to it. Much like how you responded to mine. Cloud making a sarcastic comment in the forums shouldn't be turned into something that needs to be discussed as if he were being absolutely serious. This is why a lot of pro's don't actually post in these forums because they hate when people take their posts and turn them into something they aren't. Look, I still love you and sorry if you were offended, I just don't think it's that serious. Ha I didn't really make very much drama about the Cloud post did I though? Yes I said joking about the matter doesn't really put a good light on him, but I'd say that's quite a mild criticism don't you think? And tbh I used Cloud's post merely to further my thoughts on the subject, and why I don't think it is a laughing matter, and his post lined up pretty nicely as a post to respond to. It could have been written by anyone, and I'd write just the same. So you perceive my post to be overly aimed at Cloud. I disagree, I did mention him once, but the rest of my post wasn't aimed at him at all. I can see why you thought that though as I was quoting Cloud's post. I just fundamentally disagree with the majority who thinks it's a laughing matter (see youtube comments), or who doesn't care about it. I can understand the people who think "it was just an honest mistake so let's leave it at that", but while I understand them, I don't really agree with it. Even if it was a mistake, it was quite an ignorant question to ask, and it's not an example of proper behavior to say it like that. It is comments like that I think the community should be most concerned about. Such as Orb making racist remarks or Incontrol (among others) bullying that terran guy on SotG. Orb lost his job as a consequence, and Incontrol has later apologized and shown regret for how he acted. I think those cases are much more essential in trying to make this community as awesome as it is compared to other communities, than the other random shit people have been making drama of. Why I feel so strongly about this probably has something to do with the line of education I'm progressing through. And do get me right. If Incontrol makes fun of Norwegians, saying we are all tall blond guys with bright voices, I'll laugh along with him. But when you target one person alone, it quickly turns into a hurtful and unnecessary act. That type of culture is what I'm trying to get rid of, and we do that by keeping our community pillars in line. Oh and I might seem offended, but I'm only offended by that idiotic comment from Lauren, and I'm not upset while writing my posts (apart from the first one) if you have that impression. I still love you too  | ||
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Falling
Canada11370 Posts
On December 12 2012 17:48 Godwrath wrote: I always found really interesting finding those parallels. For example how "The field of the death" was inspired shocked me a bit. Well it's one thing to say Tolkien's experience in the trenches probably had a large impact in the conception of the Dead Marshes. It's an entirely other matter to say 'aha. I've figured out LotR's. Gondor is Britain, Mordor is Germany, the Ring is the atomic bomb,' and this race is _____ ethnic group. But what have we truly gained? It might make us feel smart to have 'figured it out'. What new insight to the story do we actually have? In Tolkien's view the story has actually been diminished as we've broken it down in search of primary world chunks and we are no longer reading the story as a story. We are not entering into the secondary world. But I should probably stop derailing on LotR's tangents. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On December 13 2012 07:16 Falling wrote: Well it's one thing to say Tolkien's experience in the trenches probably had a large impact in the conception of the Dead Marshes. It's an entirely other matter to say 'aha. I've figured out LotR's. Gondor is Britain, Mordor is Germany, the Ring is the atomic bomb,' and this race is _____ ethnic group. But what have we truly gained? It might make us feel smart to have 'figured it out'. What new insight to the story do we actually have? In Tolkien's view the story has actually been diminished as we've broken it down in search of primary world chunks and we are no longer reading the story as a story. We are not entering into the secondary world. But I should probably stop derailing on LotR's tangents. While Tolkien's views and life experiences undoubtedly played a part in his writing (arguably unavoidable), he explicitly stated that, "It [The Lord of the Rings"] is neither allegorical nor topical.... I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence." That statement was taken directly from Tolkien's introduction in one of the later editions of the LOTR, once people had started speculating about potential symbolism and allegory contained within the story. | ||
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ETisME
12521 Posts
hope she is more than just an eye candy for the scene. | ||
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Anta
Germany434 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:16 ETisME wrote: after someone introduce me to laruen's daily motion videos (family filter off, of cause), it becomes difficult to see her in the esport scene somehow..lol hope she is more than just an eye candy for the scene. don't worry she already is more than that. and why is it hard to see her in the esport scene after seeing her nude? she's sexy and in esport. i would say profit. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
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NotTheMonker
United States131 Posts
Also, I don't think we should flame Lauren for asking if Scarlett is a guy. She probably thought Hot_Bid was naming a male player to troll her. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
Had no issue with anything said.On December 12 2012 20:19 Ballack wrote: "that terran guy" how could you be so ignorant + Show Spoiler + I didn't really make very much drama about the Cloud post did I though? Yes I said joking about the matter doesn't really put a good light on him, but I'd say that's quite a mild criticism don't you think? And tbh I used Cloud's post merely to further my thoughts on the subject, and why I don't think it is a laughing matter, and his post lined up pretty nicely as a post to respond to. It could have been written by anyone, and I'd write just the same. So you perceive my post to be overly aimed at Cloud. I disagree, I did mention him once, but the rest of my post wasn't aimed at him at all. I can see why you thought that though as I was quoting Cloud's post. I just fundamentally disagree with the majority who thinks it's a laughing matter (see youtube comments), or who doesn't care about it. I can understand the people who think "it was just an honest mistake so let's leave it at that", but while I understand them, I don't really agree with it. Even if it was a mistake, it was quite an ignorant question to ask, and it's not an example of proper behavior to say it like that. It is comments like that I think the community should be most concerned about. Such as Orb making racist remarks or . Orb lost his job as a consequence, and Incontrol has later apologized and shown regret for how he acted. I think those cases are much more essential in trying to make this community as awesome as it is compared to other communities, than the other random shit people have been making drama of. Why I feel so strongly about this probably has something to do with the line of education I'm progressing through. And do get me right. If Incontrol makes fun of Norwegians, saying we are all tall blond guys with bright voices, I'll laugh along with him. But when you target one person alone, it quickly turns into a hurtful and unnecessary act. That type of culture is what I'm trying to get rid of, and we do that by keeping our community pillars in line. Oh and I might seem offended, but I'm only offended by that idiotic comment from Lauren, and I'm not upset while writing my posts (apart from the first one) if you have that impression. I still love you too  On a serious note, it was avilo. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On December 14 2012 01:16 ETisME wrote: after someone introduce me to laruen's daily motion videos (family filter off, of cause), it becomes difficult to see her in the esport scene somehow..lol hope she is more than just an eye candy for the scene. If you haven't already you should check out the Slasher interview where she talks about growing up with her dad doing competitive quake. Basically comparing perspectives from her childhood to now that she's inside the scene. I like Lauren because she comes off genuine and doesn't shy away from her not so low-key background. Yea she's a total newbie, but she's a host not a caster and in that regard she's pretty solid IMO. | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
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dBdHellRider
Sweden63 Posts
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