EPTDustin Browder WCS TL Interview - Page 9
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Destro
Netherlands1206 Posts
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
"Units don't have counters to those other units" It's not really about hard counters, but units with utility that can handle these units with good control. We need those rather than "counters". | ||
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Axeltl
Finland48 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:07 IdrA wrote: Feels Neuraling Motherships is a problem Neural is on the chopping block for Swarm Will redesign Mothership so it won’t be a serious unit used in professional esports play I dont see how they could make the mothership unviable in proplay. That woul'd require them to remove Recal, Vortex and cloacking... A better suggestion would've been "We'll change things so that PvZ wont come down to weather a vortex hits or not". I see that Blizz is leaning more towards "air-toss" but that dosnt seem to be working simply due to the corrupter. Which zergs can then just make into broodlords. | ||
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MasterFischer
Denmark836 Posts
I LOVE dustin.. I don't understand how ANYBODY can say that dustin doesnt know what he is talking about and doesnt interest in starcraft.. He is SO FUCKING energergized, and he knows everything about the balance.. it seems. He is aware of all of the problems. | ||
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Jenia6109
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Also, buff Reaper, redesign Corrupter and Overseer somehow!  | ||
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Belgium927 Posts
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eMGmoG
Switzerland244 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10152 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:46 MasterFischer wrote: Best. Interview. Ever. I LOVE dustin.. I don't understand how ANYBODY can say that dustin doesnt know what he is talking about and doesnt interest in starcraft.. He is SO FUCKING energergized, and he knows everything about the balance.. it seems. He is aware of all of the problems. i know right, he is like on crack, right ? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On November 20 2012 16:10 Chicane wrote: I really don't know how he doesn't think that changing a fungal to slow wouldn't do much. If he really thinks that, then change it! People will be happy how you can micro against it, and apparently it won't really change the balance so... no reason not to! :D My thoughts exactly. I'm still not convinced Blizz balance team even plays the game. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16123 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:50 eMGmoG wrote: nice interview, some stuff gives hope, some stuff not. ''Will work on Mech TvP later on in HotS Beta"is kinda weird, considering the game will be out in less than 4 months. the wol units havent been really touched either. And there is the finishing polish the game needs. I cant see how they want to do this all in the time given. I really hope Im wrong. They're already very close in my opinion to making Mech in TvP viable. Currently Widow Mines don't really function very well as part of a core mech army, they're only really useful for gimmicky harassment or preventing anyone from all inning you so you can play greedy, once it gets into the later stages of the game their usefuleness drops off by a lot. Siege Tanks are in a decent spot with Battle Hellions able to tank Zealots for them. Their range allows them to mitigate the damage of storm because you're able to focus down templar similar to how you can focus down Infestors. Immortals and Tempests are the problem units for mech right now, and while I understand that they're supposed to be good counters to mech centered play, both units do that job a little TOO well right now. | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
but we love u dusty. u cop a lot of rage from ppl who just wanna see their race thrive, and i commend u for being so positive and loveable in your interviews, and giving everyone insight about why blizzard make some of the decisions they make in regards to balance and design P.S. If u want mothership to be a gimmicky fun team game unit not meant for e-sports. BRING BAK THE ARBITER IN HOTS PLZ!!! :D :D :D :D | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:11 Vindicare605 wrote: There's an easy way to make this Psionic immune thing work. Remove the Psionic tag from Warp Prisms and Archons. The only other ability that has any other interaction with the Psionic tag is Snipe and both Warp Prisms and Archons are unable to be Sniped anyway because they are not biological. Just look at Terrans and how they are pretty much NOT AFFECTED by that change. "Psionic" is a stupid way to divide the targets, because a Ghost is really a terrible unit against Zerg compared to the dps which 8 Infested Terrans can unleash. Snipe doesnt deal nearly enough damage, because it is annouced by an easily recognizable sound, you need more than one of them to kill an Infestor, it isnt instant and you usually need LOTS of Ghosts to counteract the swarm of Infestors. Once the Infestors are dead the Ghost is pretty much an overpriced Marine. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:46 MasterFischer wrote: Best. Interview. Ever. I LOVE dustin.. I don't understand how ANYBODY can say that dustin doesnt know what he is talking about and doesnt interest in starcraft.. He is SO FUCKING energergized, and he knows everything about the balance.. it seems. He is aware of all of the problems. Its the same stuff since 2008 interviews, you are acting like you are seeing it for the first time. DB gesticulates in this energized trippy manner, its fun to watch, i always smile watching this. But honestly it gives you nothing. Ye he is entusiastic just like he was when he first introduced SC2 to the public, talking how units will be microable years ago, but it's still the core problem of the game years after. | ||
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MasterFischer
Denmark836 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:58 bgx wrote: Its the same stuff since 2008 interviews, you are acting like you are seeing it for the first time. DB gesticulates in this energized trippy manner, its fun to watch, i always smile watching this. But honestly it gives you nothing. Ye he is entusiastic just like he was when he first introduced SC2 to the public, talking how units will be microable years ago, but it's still the core problem of the game years after. No i'm not acting like anything. But Dustin gets too much flame. He is an intelligent man, and he does his job well. You don't know how hard it is being the guy in charge of balance essentially, because everybody is screaming in your ear to nerf that and balance that... I bet you could do his job better? No you couldn't Units ARE microable, alot of them, and blizzard aren't afraid to admit mistakes, and they WANT to balance alot of the units. Just like dustin says. They are looking alot at unit balance now and in the future. Which is fantastic. | ||
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DaveVAH
Canada162 Posts
Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots? We need more objectivity in these interviews. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On November 20 2012 18:56 Rabiator wrote: Just look at Terrans and how they are pretty much NOT AFFECTED by that change. "Psionic" is a stupid way to divide the targets, because a Ghost is really a terrible unit against Zerg compared to the dps which 8 Infested Terrans can unleash. Snipe doesnt deal nearly enough damage, because it is annouced by an easily recognizable sound, you need more than one of them to kill an Infestor, it isnt instant and you usually need LOTS of Ghosts to counteract the swarm of Infestors. Once the Infestors are dead the Ghost is pretty much an overpriced Marine. I imagine that adding the Psionic tag to the Raven could be very useful against this Infestor change. | ||
monk
United States8477 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:04 DaveVAH wrote: Monk you spent 90% of the interview talking about and asking questions about P and Z, you let Dustin skip on his brood-lord infester answer on the TvZ MU (only ZvZ and PvZ broodlord infester usage was discussed). Does terran not exist anymore or something? how about some questions on mech in TvP hots? We need more objectivity in these interviews. But I'm wearing a Terran Shirt! | ||
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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
um yeah, there a lot better than us, so they can play hard races like terran... great | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:01 MasterFischer wrote: No i'm not acting like anything. But Dustin gets too much flame. He is an intelligent man, and he does his job well. You don't know how hard it is being the guy in charge of balance essentially, because everybody is screaming in your ear to nerf that and balance that... I bet you could do his job better? No you couldn't Units ARE microable, alot of them, and blizzard aren't afraid to admit mistakes, and they WANT to balance alot of the units. Just like dustin says. They are looking alot at unit balance now and in the future. Which is fantastic. No im just saying that form is not the essence. I don't like how SC2 has turned out, but im not blaming any person, because i know its more on the Blizzard shoulder's as a whole rather than Browder. Many people hoped that HotS will turn the tables a'la Frozen Throne/ Brood War, but we are seeing Browder and co. are more interested in keeping status quo till it runs dry. I did not like several statements from Browder throughout following his interviews and no williginess to risk anything, but they had no problems with patching queens and putting the metagame on its head for "people who make their living" from playing this game(hint: hypocrisy). And no, units are very unmicroable for zerg(i play zurg), by unmicroable i mean the aftereffect is not worth the action in a real game scenario (not micro trainer). People are way to focused on determining proper build orders / scouting rather than momentary executions / in-game battle scenarios, which was also a vital part of SC2 predecessor. You are not gonna blow this of by saying, "Dustin is so entusiasthic in interviews". Thats what i meant. | ||
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