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On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL.
Not everyone is american my friend
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On November 05 2012 05:38 Vandrad wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL. Not everyone is american my friend 
Not everyone in the timezones at which GSL plays very late are american.
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Sure, such position at MLG grants good seeds for future MLGs, but... same is true in Code S. And he had Code S in his pocket, which now he would have to fight for again. History has shown even the best players struggle sometimes to regain Code S spot...
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On November 05 2012 05:43 Doomwish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:38 Vandrad wrote:On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL. Not everyone is american my friend  Not everyone in the timezones at which GSL plays very late are american.
You sure? I always thought that the only timezones in which the GSL plays very late are the ones running across the two american continents.
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On November 05 2012 05:43 Doomwish wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:38 Vandrad wrote:On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL. Not everyone is american my friend  Not everyone in the timezones at which GSL plays very late are american. Since time zones stretch from North to South, chances are actually pretty high that those timezones are American (from the American continents).
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Bad decision on his part. As expected. See ya in code A
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Not a bad decision at all. He did pretty well. Will have some time to practice more, had a good trip to MLG. He ll be ready to win code A anyways.
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Shame we gotta wait for more of his games but pretty nice run in MLG
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On November 05 2012 06:25 NightOfTheDead wrote: Not a bad decision at all. He did pretty well. Will have some time to practice more, had a good trip to MLG. He ll be ready to win code A anyways. You cannot win Code A. Not since early 2011 anyways.
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The guy came through the open bracket and placed 5th in the tourney. He would have had to place top 4 in Code S to make as much money as he did today, in one weekend. He also is still in the money winnings in Code S even though he forfeited. Given the exposure, etc, good trade off.
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Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars.
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On November 05 2012 08:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars.
he didn't ;( You can speculate all day, what's the reason behind this was. You can say as a person it was a good move, because making this experience in another country is definately worth it, but as a SC2 player it was clearly the wrong call! GSL is a much more stable tournament for him. A Ro16 finish in GSL is much more worth (prestigeous) than a Top8 at MLG. I think the fact, that he is not allowed to go to other foreign tournaments except MLG and WCS played a huge role in here. If he had the oportunity to attend IPL5, he may would've made another choice!
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Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.
Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.
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On November 05 2012 08:40 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars. A Ro16 finish in GSL is much more worth (prestigeous) than a Top8 at MLG. I think the fact, that he is not allowed to go to other foreign tournaments except MLG and WCS played a huge role in here. If he had the oportunity to attend IPL5, he may would've made another choice!
I don't really think that this is true. If you look at top 10 in MLG Dallas 2012 you will see players such as Taeja, Polt (GSL ro16), Soulkey (GSL ro16), Rain, Flash and ofcourse the two finalists Leenock and Life (GSL Champion). And players such as Hero and MC did not even make it to top 10. In addition to this, almost every MLG since Koreans started attending, has been won by a high ranking GSL code S player.
Furthermore Rain would have to go all the way to ro4 in order to earn more.
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On November 05 2012 08:56 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:40 TeeTS wrote:On November 05 2012 08:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars. A Ro16 finish in GSL is much more worth (prestigeous) than a Top8 at MLG. I think the fact, that he is not allowed to go to other foreign tournaments except MLG and WCS played a huge role in here. If he had the oportunity to attend IPL5, he may would've made another choice! I don't really think that this is true. If you look at top 10 in MLG Dallas 2012 you will see players such as Taeja, Polt (GSL ro16), Soulkey (GSL ro16), Rain, Flash and ofcourse the two finalists Leenock and Life (GSL Champion). And players such as Hero and MC did not even make it to top 10. In addition to this, almost every MLG since Koreans started attending, has been won by a high ranking GSL code S player. Furthermore Rain would have to go all the way to ro4 in order to earn more.
Everything you mentioned is right, but GSL has 32 players on that level (well even more with Code A) so it is of course way more prestigeous.
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On November 05 2012 06:07 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 05:43 Doomwish wrote:On November 05 2012 05:38 Vandrad wrote:On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL. Not everyone is american my friend  Not everyone in the timezones at which GSL plays very late are american. You sure? I always thought that the only timezones in which the GSL plays very late are the ones running across the two american continents.
Don't call me American bro.
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On November 05 2012 09:01 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 08:56 Prog455 wrote:On November 05 2012 08:40 TeeTS wrote:On November 05 2012 08:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars. A Ro16 finish in GSL is much more worth (prestigeous) than a Top8 at MLG. I think the fact, that he is not allowed to go to other foreign tournaments except MLG and WCS played a huge role in here. If he had the oportunity to attend IPL5, he may would've made another choice! I don't really think that this is true. If you look at top 10 in MLG Dallas 2012 you will see players such as Taeja, Polt (GSL ro16), Soulkey (GSL ro16), Rain, Flash and ofcourse the two finalists Leenock and Life (GSL Champion). And players such as Hero and MC did not even make it to top 10. In addition to this, almost every MLG since Koreans started attending, has been won by a high ranking GSL code S player. Furthermore Rain would have to go all the way to ro4 in order to earn more. Everything you mentioned is right, but GSL has 32 players on that level (well even more with Code A) so it is of course way more prestigeous. well theoretically yes, but how many people can name all 32 players in code S? I for one don't care about half of them.
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On November 05 2012 05:26 DrowSwordsman wrote: For a lot of people who don't stay up to watch the Korean games, Rain's made an amazing move to increase his own exposure. He may not have won the tournament but he had plenty of main stage/streamed showings. Unless you get really far in GSL Code S the foreigner exposure just isn't as much. If he streams after this tournament I would bet his numbers would be MUCH bigger than they would be than if he decided to stay in the GSL.
I don't think you will see Kespa pros streaming anytime soon.
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On November 05 2012 09:07 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2012 09:01 TeeTS wrote:On November 05 2012 08:56 Prog455 wrote:On November 05 2012 08:40 TeeTS wrote:On November 05 2012 08:13 Zealotdriver wrote: Good decision by Rain. Get that money, get those dollars. A Ro16 finish in GSL is much more worth (prestigeous) than a Top8 at MLG. I think the fact, that he is not allowed to go to other foreign tournaments except MLG and WCS played a huge role in here. If he had the oportunity to attend IPL5, he may would've made another choice! I don't really think that this is true. If you look at top 10 in MLG Dallas 2012 you will see players such as Taeja, Polt (GSL ro16), Soulkey (GSL ro16), Rain, Flash and ofcourse the two finalists Leenock and Life (GSL Champion). And players such as Hero and MC did not even make it to top 10. In addition to this, almost every MLG since Koreans started attending, has been won by a high ranking GSL code S player. Furthermore Rain would have to go all the way to ro4 in order to earn more. Everything you mentioned is right, but GSL has 32 players on that level (well even more with Code A) so it is of course way more prestigeous. well theoretically yes, but how many people can name all 32 players in code S? I for one don't care about half of them.
how many people can name all 32 clubs of the UEFA championsleague or care about all of them? And still it's the biggest and most prestigeous competition in club football. Quality of play makes prestige and GSL got the best here.
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On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote: Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.
Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.
Yea, exactly my thoughts. And it's not guarantee he'd win GSL, so he'd probably earn the same amount of money, but with this he get to experience the foreign scene, a nice trip and get a little bit of different tournament experience which is very valuable.
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