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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
November 05 2012 02:45 GMT
#961
On November 05 2012 11:35 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 10:38 Hazuc wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:29 opterown wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote:
Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.

Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.

4k is a lot less than what he could have won at GSL
and fighting through the jet lag/cold is not fun haha


You only get 4.2k by getting to the semis. Besides, I'm sure he enjoyed way more playing in front of a passionated crowd than in front of the empty/emotionless GSL crowd.


If he made the semifinals, he would have gone to IPL5.

mlg-kespa exclusive deal.
ipl5? yeah right.
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1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 02:47:52
November 05 2012 02:47 GMT
#962
On November 05 2012 10:38 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 10:29 opterown wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote:
Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.

Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.

4k is a lot less than what he could have won at GSL
and fighting through the jet lag/cold is not fun haha


You only get 4.2k by getting to the semis. Besides, I'm sure he enjoyed way more playing in front of a passionated crowd than in front of the empty/emotionless GSL crowd.


The Empty/Emotionless GSL crowd:

[image loading]

(and yes that is mvp vs life)
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
alber
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada45 Posts
November 05 2012 03:58 GMT
#963
State of the Game material here JP!!
sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
November 05 2012 04:07 GMT
#964
On November 05 2012 10:45 hzflank wrote:
So many people do not seem to get it.

Rain was given a seed into the most prestigious tournament in the world. He performed well and almost won it. Then, he forfeits his games in the next season at short notice in order to attend a different tournament. it is extremely disrespectful to the GSL.

What would people say if someone like Naniwa did the same thing? They would criticise him heavily.




I think that's the point alot of people don't get here... it's about respect. The GSL is the premier SC2 League in the world and there are thousands who'd die to be there... it was most probably poor planning on the part of Rain and SKT but that should get him a pass saying "oh the foreign crowds... oh the money"... if only he had qualifed through the MvP route, Flash got $7000 for beating code A and code B material plus a couple of foreigners...
Stormbringer!!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44362 Posts
November 05 2012 04:18 GMT
#965
On November 05 2012 11:38 1handsomE wrote:
So... was this a mistake to goto MLG?


I don't think so. The fact that so many Koreans don't get the chance to go to foreign tournaments, plus the fact that he made some money, plus he got to experience the foreign crowds and fans... I think it was a good experience overall for him.

What happens to his Code S spot? When Rain returns to Korea, where does he end up as far as the GSL is concerned?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 05 2012 04:20 GMT
#966
On November 05 2012 13:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 11:38 1handsomE wrote:
So... was this a mistake to goto MLG?


I don't think so. The fact that so many Koreans don't get the chance to go to foreign tournaments, plus the fact that he made some money, plus he got to experience the foreign crowds and fans... I think it was a good experience overall for him.

What happens to his Code S spot? When Rain returns to Korea, where does he end up as far as the GSL is concerned?

Was stated in the OP, I think. He's treated as bottom of his group.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44362 Posts
November 05 2012 04:23 GMT
#967
On November 05 2012 13:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 05 2012 11:38 1handsomE wrote:
So... was this a mistake to goto MLG?


I don't think so. The fact that so many Koreans don't get the chance to go to foreign tournaments, plus the fact that he made some money, plus he got to experience the foreign crowds and fans... I think it was a good experience overall for him.

What happens to his Code S spot? When Rain returns to Korea, where does he end up as far as the GSL is concerned?

Was stated in the OP, I think. He's treated as bottom of his group.


Ah, I see now. "He will be given the 4th place of Code S Ro32 Group D and is now placed in the Code A Round 1 bracket."
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
November 05 2012 04:30 GMT
#968
On November 05 2012 13:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:20 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 05 2012 13:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 05 2012 11:38 1handsomE wrote:
So... was this a mistake to goto MLG?


I don't think so. The fact that so many Koreans don't get the chance to go to foreign tournaments, plus the fact that he made some money, plus he got to experience the foreign crowds and fans... I think it was a good experience overall for him.

What happens to his Code S spot? When Rain returns to Korea, where does he end up as far as the GSL is concerned?

Was stated in the OP, I think. He's treated as bottom of his group.


Ah, I see now. "He will be given the 4th place of Code S Ro32 Group D and is now placed in the Code A Round 1 bracket."

To me that isn't enough of a punishment. Maybe GOM is still afraid of KeSPA. They should have treated him like the other Rain.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 05 2012 04:30 GMT
#969
It's another semi-drama that will soon fade from memory. Like when Stephano dropped out of a tourney cuz he was tired etc. Rain will win another tourney soon and the people will love him for it . No one should lose any sleep because he won't be in one season of GSL.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44362 Posts
November 05 2012 04:32 GMT
#970
On November 05 2012 13:30 Doodsmack wrote:
It's another semi-drama that will soon fade from memory. Like when Stephano dropped out of a tourney cuz he was tired etc. Rain will win another tourney soon and the people will love him for it . No one should lose any sleep because he won't be in one season of GSL.


I keep a mental list of every scummy or remotely imperfect thing Stephano has ever done.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Hazuc
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada471 Posts
November 05 2012 04:32 GMT
#971
On November 05 2012 11:47 1handsomE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 10:38 Hazuc wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:29 opterown wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote:
Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.

Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.

4k is a lot less than what he could have won at GSL
and fighting through the jet lag/cold is not fun haha


You only get 4.2k by getting to the semis. Besides, I'm sure he enjoyed way more playing in front of a passionated crowd than in front of the empty/emotionless GSL crowd.


The Empty/Emotionless GSL crowd:

[image loading]

(and yes that is mvp vs life)


Oh, c'mon. We both know that GSL is bad unless you get to the finals.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
November 05 2012 04:35 GMT
#972
Can't Rain still return to Code S via Code A this season?
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
November 05 2012 04:39 GMT
#973
On November 05 2012 13:35 foxmeep wrote:
Can't Rain still return to Code S via Code A this season?


that would make him code s for next season.
GoldforGolden
Profile Joined September 2012
China102 Posts
November 05 2012 04:40 GMT
#974
why are people questioning his decision?
whether it was good for him or not depends upon him, he might find going abroad for a new foreign tournament experience to worth forfeiting the spot, not just for the prize money. Meeting foreign fans seems to be a popular thing to do nowadays for korean pros.
We think too much, feel too little
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
November 05 2012 04:42 GMT
#975
On November 05 2012 13:39 stangstang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:35 foxmeep wrote:
Can't Rain still return to Code S via Code A this season?


that would make him code s for next season.


Ah indeed, I went and looked at the retarded format flow chart again and realised that xD
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:46:17
November 05 2012 04:45 GMT
#976
On November 05 2012 13:40 GoldforGolden wrote:
why are people questioning his decision?
whether it was good for him or not depends upon him, he might find going abroad for a new foreign tournament experience to worth forfeiting the spot, not just for the prize money. Meeting foreign fans seems to be a popular thing to do nowadays for korean pros.

Nobody is questioning the decision. We are questioning mentioning it at the last minute. I would have fully supported him if he mentions 1-2 weeks in advance, like everyone else.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:47:03
November 05 2012 04:46 GMT
#977
Bomber brutalized the best Protoss player in the world at MLG - he will now proceed to drop back into Code B, like clockwork. fucking bomber
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
SolidMoose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1240 Posts
November 05 2012 04:51 GMT
#978
On November 05 2012 13:32 Hazuc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 11:47 1handsomE wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:38 Hazuc wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:29 opterown wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote:
Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.

Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.

4k is a lot less than what he could have won at GSL
and fighting through the jet lag/cold is not fun haha


You only get 4.2k by getting to the semis. Besides, I'm sure he enjoyed way more playing in front of a passionated crowd than in front of the empty/emotionless GSL crowd.


The Empty/Emotionless GSL crowd:

[image loading]

(and yes that is mvp vs life)


Oh, c'mon. We both know that GSL is bad unless you get to the finals.


Bad? GSL is 6 days a week (including GSTL) in a STUDIO. The whole league is structured around being watched elsewhere. You can't compare that to weekend tournaments.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 04:56:50
November 05 2012 04:56 GMT
#979
On November 05 2012 13:51 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 13:32 Hazuc wrote:
On November 05 2012 11:47 1handsomE wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:38 Hazuc wrote:
On November 05 2012 10:29 opterown wrote:
On November 05 2012 08:45 Hazuc wrote:
Lol @ people saying Rain made a bad decision.

Not only he won like 4k US$, but he probably had his best time since he started being a progamer.

4k is a lot less than what he could have won at GSL
and fighting through the jet lag/cold is not fun haha


You only get 4.2k by getting to the semis. Besides, I'm sure he enjoyed way more playing in front of a passionated crowd than in front of the empty/emotionless GSL crowd.


The Empty/Emotionless GSL crowd:

[image loading]

(and yes that is mvp vs life)


Oh, c'mon. We both know that GSL is bad unless you get to the finals.


Bad? GSL is 6 days a week (including GSTL) in a STUDIO. The whole league is structured around being watched elsewhere. You can't compare that to weekend tournaments.


Well OSL and Proleague are done in a similar fashion but at a larger location, thus allowing a good number of audience throughout the season. It's a pity the mokdong studio is so small.

Edit: Grammar
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convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
November 05 2012 05:10 GMT
#980
On November 05 2012 13:46 Waxangel wrote:
Bomber brutalized the best Protoss player in the world at MLG - he will now proceed to drop back into Code B, like clockwork. fucking bomber

Haha, i was thinking the same thing. One of my favorite players and it makes it all the more painful.
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