EPTThank the sponsors campaign - Page 5
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o_Thomaz
Brazil4 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211 and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking. All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works) As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :> At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough? | ||
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211 and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking. All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works) As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :> At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough? Of course companies are all about profit, and if people tell them they buy their stuff because they sponsor certain teams they are obviously gonna be happy. | ||
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211 and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking. All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works) As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :> At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough? Some organizations ask you to go out there and help them by thanking their sponsors. | ||
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seodoth
Netherlands315 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211 and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking. All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works) As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :> At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough? Re-read the entire thread and then come back to this post. There have been many posts explaining why this actually is a good idea. It's one of the better thread ideas that has been posted here in quite a while. Much better than the drama threads which have been popping up almost every month or something. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage. | ||
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EggYsc2
620 Posts
Buying shit does. END OF STORY. We are a market driven globalized civilization. Money matters when it comes to investing not thankyou. Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor" BUY SOMETHING Shit, its that easy. I did. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:01 EggYsc2 wrote: Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round. Buying shit does. END OF STORY. We are a market driven globalized civilization. Money matters when it comes to investing not thankyou. Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor" BUY SOMETHING Shit, its that easy. I did. Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship. | ||
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ibo422
Belgium2844 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:05 revel8 wrote: Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship. Exactly. Many ppl seem to not understand this. | ||
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MrF
United States320 Posts
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote: I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211 and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking. All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works) As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :> At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough? Qua? why would it be bad to to tell sponsors that you are glad they are sponsoring e-sports, there aren't many companies doing this and it should be encouraged by fans. | ||
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Bakkendepao
Netherlands185 Posts
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Gimpb
293 Posts
1. It can be very difficult to statistically separate the effects of a single advertising campaign from all the other events going on at the same time. This is especially true in smaller companies selling that sell smaller quantities and don't employ armies of analysts. Although survey and direct feedback methods are not as good as real sales numbers, they can serve as a proxy when the real sales numbers are not possible to obtain. 2. The action reflects upon the mentality of the community and more importantly, actually affects the mentality of the community. What I mean by that, is it actually makes the community a little bit "nicer" when someone gets people together to do something like this and that actually increases the value of advertising to the community. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say. I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh | ||
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Luisa_2
Germany200 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:05 revel8 wrote: Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship. Truth to be told! | ||
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JohnnyBlaze420
Australia806 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:39 CursOr wrote: This is amazing. How can anyone be hating on this OP? I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say. I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh couldn't agree more. why does everything have to be dissected so much on this site... like who are these ppl? Lets take something positive and complain about it lol. | ||
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Vaftrudner
Sweden1185 Posts
On October 15 2012 01:58 Jormundr wrote: This thread is a horrible, horrible idea. Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage. This is the only real criticism that has made me seriously question the idea. But in the end, it's not like this information is hidden somewhere, and there are already hate campaigns directed at sponsors, they seem to be doing fine without me. I want to offer an alternative and encourage people to do something positive. People like me who are grateful but lazy. I'm not saying that this is a great idea, but I don't think it's a horrible idea neither, and some people in the business that I do respect and listen to seem to like the idea. Also, I refuse to let my choices be dictated by assholes. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
Steelseries sponsors EG, and I'm happy for that. Am I going to buy a new keyboard today? No, I've already got a razer keyboard. But, I have decided that the next keyboard I get is going to be steelseries, because I've been [very] unhappy with the quality control razer has proved to me, with the 3 mouses I went through in less than 2 years, headset that sucks, and keyboard that has some problems. Steelseries is going to get an extra sale because of their sponsorship from me (2, since I ordered a siberia a few days ago), which I wasn't even considering before I grew very fond of EG. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:39 CursOr wrote: This is amazing. How can anyone be hating on this OP? I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say. I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh I think this attitude is dependent on an assumption that orb, Destiny, and Stephano are good people who just made one mistake, and I think that if you look at their careers as a whole that this assumption isn't true. | ||
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
On October 15 2012 02:01 EggYsc2 wrote: Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round. Buying shit does. END OF STORY. We are a market driven globalized civilization. Money matters when it comes to investing not thankyou. Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor" BUY SOMETHING Shit, its that easy. I did. Simply not true. People who take the time to write an e-mail are certainly people more likely to buy your products. Without that, they have no way of knowing if their sponsorships are really doing anything. They might have exactly the same sales as before, but it would have been less without it. Or they might have a 10% increase and none of it is due to their sponsorships. | ||
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