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o_Thomaz
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil4 Posts
October 14 2012 16:37 GMT
#81
I like this initiative. The sponsors wanna see ROI, but positive feedback and PR helps them better track this ROI. And it shouldn't be with a charity-like mindset: I'm sure everyone has a team, player, media or event that they sincerely endorse and wanna see growing.
There are two kinds of play: the right one and all others.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
October 14 2012 16:42 GMT
#82
I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211

and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking.
All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works)

As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :>

At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough?
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 16:53:51
October 14 2012 16:48 GMT
#83
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211

and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking.
All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works)

As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :>

At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough?


Of course companies are all about profit, and if people tell them they buy their stuff because they sponsor certain teams they are obviously gonna be happy.
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
October 14 2012 16:51 GMT
#84
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211

and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking.
All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works)

As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :>

At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough?


Some organizations ask you to go out there and help them by thanking their sponsors.
eSports or die tryin'
seodoth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands319 Posts
October 14 2012 16:52 GMT
#85
nice
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 14 2012 16:52 GMT
#86
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211

and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking.
All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works)

As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :>

At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough?


Re-read the entire thread and then come back to this post. There have been many posts explaining why this actually is a good idea.

It's one of the better thread ideas that has been posted here in quite a while. Much better than the drama threads which have been popping up almost every month or something.
maru lover forever
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
October 14 2012 16:58 GMT
#87
This thread is a horrible, horrible idea.
Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 17:03:22
October 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#88
Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round.

Buying shit does.

END
OF
STORY.
We are a market driven globalized civilization.
Money matters when it comes to investing
not thankyou.

Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor"
BUY
SOMETHING

Shit, its that easy. I did.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 17:06:27
October 14 2012 17:05 GMT
#89
On October 15 2012 02:01 EggYsc2 wrote:
Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round.

Buying shit does.

END
OF
STORY.
We are a market driven globalized civilization.
Money matters when it comes to investing
not thankyou.

Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor"
BUY
SOMETHING

Shit, its that easy. I did.


Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship.
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
October 14 2012 17:09 GMT
#90
On October 15 2012 02:05 revel8 wrote:
Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship.

Exactly. Many ppl seem to not understand this.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
October 14 2012 17:17 GMT
#91
On October 15 2012 01:42 NEEDZMOAR wrote:
I find it naive and juvenile with threads like these, and here is why:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=375211

and no, thats just not one of a kind, that's how every single company is thinking.
All companies care about is profit and how to maximize it. (note: Im not saying that companies are evil or that we should stand up and fight them or something, this is how the western modern world works)

As somebody else said, youre noble hearted but misguided :>

At the same time, I enjoy esports and Im going to keep paying for events I want to watch and I will keep on following my fav teams, which means that I'm still going to get affected by all the ads and promotions of the sponsors, Isnt that enough?

Qua? why would it be bad to to tell sponsors that you are glad they are sponsoring e-sports, there aren't many companies doing this and it should be encouraged by fans.
HunterXHunter is awesome
Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
October 14 2012 17:25 GMT
#92
Youre overdoing it, OP.
[1:11:58] محمد بن راشد آل مكتوم: >having a signature [1:11:58] محمد بن راشد آل مكتوم: what are you
Gimpb
Profile Joined August 2010
293 Posts
October 14 2012 17:33 GMT
#93
To the folks saying it's not what the companies care about, keep a couple things in mind:

1. It can be very difficult to statistically separate the effects of a single advertising campaign from all the other events going on at the same time. This is especially true in smaller companies selling that sell smaller quantities and don't employ armies of analysts. Although survey and direct feedback methods are not as good as real sales numbers, they can serve as a proxy when the real sales numbers are not possible to obtain.

2. The action reflects upon the mentality of the community and more importantly, actually affects the mentality of the community. What I mean by that, is it actually makes the community a little bit "nicer" when someone gets people together to do something like this and that actually increases the value of advertising to the community.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 14 2012 17:39 GMT
#94
This is amazing. How can anyone be hating on this OP?

I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say.

I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
October 14 2012 17:43 GMT
#95
On October 15 2012 02:05 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 02:01 EggYsc2 wrote:
Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round.

Buying shit does.

END
OF
STORY.
We are a market driven globalized civilization.
Money matters when it comes to investing
not thankyou.

Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor"
BUY
SOMETHING

Shit, its that easy. I did.


Actually you also have to inform them that you buying/have bought something due to their support. Otherwise the sale cannot be directly attributable to their sponsorship.


Truth to be told!
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia820 Posts
October 14 2012 18:07 GMT
#96
On October 15 2012 02:39 CursOr wrote:
This is amazing. How can anyone be hating on this OP?

I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say.

I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh


couldn't agree more. why does everything have to be dissected so much on this site... like who are these ppl? Lets take something positive and complain about it lol.
.lets get weird
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
October 14 2012 18:25 GMT
#97
On October 15 2012 01:58 Jormundr wrote:
This thread is a horrible, horrible idea.
Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage.

This is the only real criticism that has made me seriously question the idea. But in the end, it's not like this information is hidden somewhere, and there are already hate campaigns directed at sponsors, they seem to be doing fine without me. I want to offer an alternative and encourage people to do something positive. People like me who are grateful but lazy. I'm not saying that this is a great idea, but I don't think it's a horrible idea neither, and some people in the business that I do respect and listen to seem to like the idea.

Also, I refuse to let my choices be dictated by assholes.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
October 14 2012 19:03 GMT
#98
A very large part of advertizing is to increase brand awareness, which is not meant to increase their sales the next month or quarter. It's a more longterm relationship.

Steelseries sponsors EG, and I'm happy for that. Am I going to buy a new keyboard today? No, I've already got a razer keyboard. But, I have decided that the next keyboard I get is going to be steelseries, because I've been [very] unhappy with the quality control razer has proved to me, with the 3 mouses I went through in less than 2 years, headset that sucks, and keyboard that has some problems.

Steelseries is going to get an extra sale because of their sponsorship from me (2, since I ordered a siberia a few days ago), which I wasn't even considering before I grew very fond of EG.
Refer to my post.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 14 2012 19:23 GMT
#99
On October 15 2012 02:39 CursOr wrote:
This is amazing. How can anyone be hating on this OP?

I'm so sick of the "complain to sponsors" people. ewwww a pro gamer said some bad words, or ewwww a pro gamer raged out, or ewww a pro gamer killed someone. STFU and stop trying to sandbag people's careers and ratting people out like a little bitch. Makes me feel ill. I can't help but think it's some sad sad power trip for people who have nothing better to do with their time, and also have no one in the world who gives a shit what they say.

I did the "thank Red Bull" feedback thing for the lans they put on, and I think this is a wonderful idea. Not because it needs to be done in itself, but just to counter all the negativity that seems to spew out of the community despite the fact that these advertisers GIVE it money. ugh


I think this attitude is dependent on an assumption that orb, Destiny, and Stephano are good people who just made one mistake, and I think that if you look at their careers as a whole that this assumption isn't true.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
October 14 2012 19:24 GMT
#100
On October 15 2012 02:01 EggYsc2 wrote:
Saying please and thankyou doesnt make the world go round.

Buying shit does.

END
OF
STORY.
We are a market driven globalized civilization.
Money matters when it comes to investing
not thankyou.

Instead of wasting 20 mins writing "omgbbqthanksfordasponsor"
BUY
SOMETHING

Shit, its that easy. I did.


Simply not true. People who take the time to write an e-mail are certainly people more likely to buy your products. Without that, they have no way of knowing if their sponsorships are really doing anything. They might have exactly the same sales as before, but it would have been less without it. Or they might have a 10% increase and none of it is due to their sponsorships.
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