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Ooooh, this is one of the better threads I've come across in recent times. It's an intelligent idea. Ideally though, you want to tell the sponsor that you've bought their product. That will be really meaningful.
But a nice thread with positive energy.
As to those who are asking themselves if just thanking the sponsors is a good idea; it is. At the moment I'm quite happy with the mouse I've got. Same with the keyboard. However in the future you can bet your butt I'm going to be giving Steelseries products a nice hard look when my mouse dies or something. Just because someone who saw an advertisement doesn't need a certain product right now, the advertising will bring that product to the person's mind when they'll be looking to buy.
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Like many have said, a bump in sales is nearly impossible to track. Things like twitter, fb, and email response are great alternative metrics for tracking customer engagement. This thread has the right idea, and creates an easy path for people to show their support to the companies that support our scene. Great post.
It would be helpful if you added the Twitters to the OP for each company. Also like others have said, EG maybe shouldn't be the community's top priority; they are flush with cash.
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On October 14 2012 22:30 creamyturtle wrote: Like many have said, a bump in sales is nearly impossible to track. Things like twitter, fb, and email response are great alternative metrics for tracking customer engagement. This thread has the right idea, and creates an easy path for people to show their support to the companies that support our scene. Great post.
It would be helpful if you added the Twitters to the OP for each company. Also like others have said, EG maybe shouldn't be the community's top priority; they are flush with cash. I'm working on it I've added most larger American teams and some European teams and tried to deemphasise the EG focus, I'm watching Asus ROG now though so I'll add more later.
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Good thread, even better now that you added a bunch of teams. Keep it up!
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On October 14 2012 22:30 creamyturtle wrote: Like many have said, a bump in sales is nearly impossible to track. Things like twitter, fb, and email response are great alternative metrics for tracking customer engagement. This thread has the right idea, and creates an easy path for people to show their support to the companies that support our scene. Great post.
It would be helpful if you added the Twitters to the OP for each company. Also like others have said, EG maybe shouldn't be the community's top priority; they are flush with cash. yes, EG should be the primary focus right now at this moment. It's moment like these where sponsors get emails from angry little nerd creatures and then ask themselves: "we are we even sponsoring esport??"
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It makes me incredibly sad how many people see a need to tell the OP and every reader of this thread that this idea is somehow flawed. There is not a single negative idea in this post, it is someone trying to do something positive for a game they love and allowing anyone who wants to do the same to help out. What possible reason is there to attack someone who wants to show sponsors support? Who cares what motivates sponsors or what the overall effect these messages have! Working to do something positive to help grow a community you love should be lauded not attacked.
One last point, is that sponsors/companies are made up of people as much as we would love to think otherwise. The reason the Little App Factory, Twitch, Intel, and other large companies got into sponsoring esports is because of the personal connection many of their employees/owners feel toward it. Even if our emails do not change their bottom line, they certainly let the people who are working inside those companies to support esports know that what they are doing has meaning. Making someone else feel like the work they do has value is worth more than a negative post on an online website.
Keep it up OP!
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I don't see why we need to suck up to sponsors, if i like the product ill support it ... i don't think being fake to sponsors is helping anything.
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On October 14 2012 20:55 Fandango wrote: I hate this thread with the same vitriol I hate threads telling me why I should pay for MLG and people who email sponsors about shit players said this one time. Stop treating competitive SC2 as if it's 5 people in a basement trying to get something going, it's a multi-million dollar profitable industry that doesn't need propping up with god awful 'community' efforts. If you want SC2 to be bigger, watch or pay for events or streams you think are worth it based on the content they provide, don't watch or pay for events or streams that don't. If there's significant viewership then there's significant sponsorship, don't create false economies by propping up commercial ventures for dumb reasons.
I second this. I love this forums but i really don't give a fuck (anymore) about esports, especially not about sponsors.
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Yeah tell that to reddit who bombards the sponsors with shit that causes all these drama
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The people on EG are the ones who plug their sponsors the hardest compared to any other team except perhaps Liquid. Maybe they do deserve that spot, after all they are an exemplary team.
Perhaps I'm an EG fan boy, but even objectively it's hard to say they don't manage their shit well.
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On October 14 2012 20:55 Fandango wrote: I hate this thread with the same vitriol I hate threads telling me why I should pay for MLG and people who email sponsors about shit players said this one time. Stop treating competitive SC2 as if it's 5 people in a basement trying to get something going, it's a multi-million dollar profitable industry that doesn't need propping up with god awful 'community' efforts. If you want SC2 to be bigger, watch or pay for events or streams you think are worth it based on the content they provide, don't watch or pay for events or streams that don't. If there's significant viewership then there's significant sponsorship, don't create false economies by propping up commercial ventures for dumb reasons.
If we never e-mailed them positively, then they'd already have gotten the impression the only people who watch are the self-centered spot-light whoring drama mongers who only e-mail them to bitch every single time they can create drama out of the next most benign controversy. Then -that- props up the illusion that the community boycotts any and everything because they're hyper-sensitive and just want to shit on anything decent -- which represents a very, very vocal minority who are probably full of bs.
So, at least for the sake of offsetting these sad people, you could e-mail them your praise.
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On October 14 2012 23:31 jax1492 wrote: I don't see why we need to suck up to sponsors, if i like the product ill support it ... i don't think being fake to sponsors is helping anything. I specifically said in the OP not to lie or make stuff up. It's not about being fake. A lot of these companies make great products, I'm not gonna lie to those who don't and suck up to them. It's just an encouragement to express support for those who do things you consider good.
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Some days I log onto TL and read super positive posts. Then I scroll down and read a select few people spouting some of the most negative retarded crap responses I've ever seen.
Yes, emailing sponsors is a nice thing to do and shows that their sponsorship doesn't go unnoticed. Even if it is at the prompting of a thread such as this. Will 4000 emails go through? No wtf how many people do you think will actually be bothered? Maybe 50, maybe 100, maybe even 500? It could happen.
Ok great, this sends a positive message to some sponsors and helps counteract some of the internet trolls that email sponsors about negative attitudes. I applaud the intention of this thread .
Now to those criticising, It's not going to be many thousands of false messages that are trying to "trick" sponsors. Just a handful, or maybe a couple hundred at most. This won't trick them or change the entire state of e-sports. The OP never said anything like this. Anyone that started implying that has successfully derailed a thread that was simply a positive thread trying to garner support for an expression of thanks to sponsors. Is this thread here to you to FORCE E-SPORTS into something it's not? No. Sit down and shut the fuck up.
Back on track. Yay let's thank the sponsors!
I would like the following sponsor added  Tt eSports: http://www.facebook.com/TteSPORTS
TL:DR: Stop being so negative, stop overreacting. Calm down and send an email if you want, if you don't the door is right there, use it.
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what about the Korean teams?
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Honestly if you are gonna thank sponsers thank the ones for teams you like
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Thanks PIG. I'll add TT Esports for sure, but I'm a bit confused. Does it function as a team or as personal sponsorships of tournaments/players?
On October 14 2012 23:56 Cinquedea wrote: what about the Korean teams? I'll get to them too Sorry, I'm watching Asus ROG at the moment. I realise I should have done a lot more preparation before starting the thread and I've apologised for it. But I'll fix it up and add as many teams as possible. If you want to help out, check teams and their sponsors and try to find especially any social platforms like Twitter or Facebook.
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On October 15 2012 00:06 Vaftrudner wrote:Thanks PIG. I'll add TT Esports for sure, but I'm a bit confused. Does it function as a team or as personal sponsorships of tournaments/players? I'll get to them too  Sorry, I'm watching Asus ROG at the moment. I realise I should have done a lot more preparation before starting the thread and I've apologised for it. But I'll fix it up and add as many teams as possible. If you want to help out, check teams and their sponsors and try to find especially any social platforms like Twitter or Facebook.
Tt sponsor a few players individually such as myself and WhiteRa as part of their what I guess you would call the "International Tt pro team" (meaning they help manage and fly us around and organise stuff for us exactly like a team would do), but also sponsor hundreds of teams around the world as a hardware/Primary sponsor. Teams such as TtApollos in Taiwan are pretty much purely sponsored by Tt I believe (I could be wrong here I'm not too filled in on the taiwan scene) and function as fully Tt teams. Many other teams such as Infused, LighT e-Sports and PRIME are have Tt as a major hardware sponsor.
So I guess in summary it functions as both a team and as personal sponsorships of tournaments/players streams/teams.
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I've said this before but I will say it again: This actually matters.
Is that silly? Yes. Does it make sense? Kinda.
They absolutely LOVE when they get ANY kind of contact about them/theirs as long as it is positive. Unfortunately this works both ways. When they receive negative emails this too works to get their attention.
I appreciate this directive and I can promise you it actually matters.
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On October 14 2012 23:56 Cinquedea wrote: what about the Korean teams?
I don't know, what about them? WHy not post with your list of korean team sponsors you'd like added to the OP?
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This thread is great not because we can write positive feedback to those companies, but because we get to know which company's product to buy. Giving positive feedback is fine, but more importantly, make sure to buy their products if you really appreciate their support. This list really helps for that purpose. As far as I know from my own experience in a company etc., companies care Profit>>>>>>Negative Feedback>>>Positive Feedback. Personally, I am considering buying EIZO monitor next time around both because their product is great and because they support tournaments. It would be nice if major tournament sponsors could be listed as well. Nice work OP.
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