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On October 15 2012 06:37 MetalSlug wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 05:30 IdrA wrote:On October 15 2012 05:24 Zenbrez wrote:On October 15 2012 05:20 IdrA wrote:On October 15 2012 04:41 MetalSlug wrote:
I want to add that this probably hurts the credibility of the Community and future actions where emailing sponsors and thanking them for the stuff they do might actually be due. you think a bunch of people appreciating and liking a company is worthless? they know not every esports fan is going to buy their product when they sponsor a team, but the more people like you and hear about you the more people are going to buy stuff from you. and those people who do appreciate them now but cant or wont buy a product are still more likely to do so in the future when they have a need or more money or whatever. My razer banshee has proved to be really bad, and purchased a Siberia last week. My razer keyboard is also iffy.. when it goes belly-up, I have a G6V2 on my to-buy list. well theres also the fact that companies that sponsor EG just inherently have superior products. but thats neither here nor there. Actually, they would probably care more about a like on facebook that came from a link from a sponsored Event than a kinda forced random mail from some guys on TL who were aware of the brand before. Likes on FB are numbers you can present your superiors. I just think that its stupid to mail sponsors without a valid reason when you can do so much more by liking them on FB or just visiting their site.
Agreed. This is why I have added Twitter and/or Facebook for every company where I have been able to find it, and why I have provided links to their homepages instead of just e-mails.
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Thank you, this is an epic thread. Should be sticky IMO.
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alrighty metalslug, clearly there's a difference between saying "Thanks for sponsoring my fav team -SomeAssHat"
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"Thanks for sponsoring my fav team. Btw that raidcall community event was really cool and it was kinda fun to have the chance to speak live with some EG players. -NotAnAssHat"
One of them is constructive feedback; this helps the sponsor understand what their fans value and what helps their brand become more interesting and, by a small amount, more valuable in general. The other, is about as good as a facebook like.
edit: not to mention, makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside; that's really valuable too, i think 
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A little off-topic, but why are Korean teams still so 'under-sponsored'?
It's been over two years now, that they had the best players and therefore good exposure.
Apart from StarTale and IM they have not made much progress. Hell, they don't even got hardware sponsors...
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 15 2012 06:56 lord_nibbler wrote:
A little off-topic, but why are Korean teams still so 'under-sponsored'?
It's been over two years now, that they had the best players and therefore good exposure.
Apart from StarTale and IM they have not made much progress. Hell, they don't even got hardware sponsors...
Koreans often are not as marketable as foreigners because of the language barrier resulting in a kind of go big or go home for Korean sponsorships so startale and IM gets the majority of the sponsors.
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On October 15 2012 06:56 lord_nibbler wrote:
A little off-topic, but why are Korean teams still so 'under-sponsored'?
It's been over two years now, that they had the best players and therefore good exposure.
Apart from StarTale and IM they have not made much progress. Hell, they don't even got hardware sponsors...
I think at least part of it has to do with the fact that playing skill doesn't automatically equate to marketability. Many Korean players don't speak much english, and have difficulties communicating with foreign fans the way European or North American players can. This makes it difficult for the teams to market the players as much as they would have to, unfortunately. :/
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Lol at the negativity. Hard to fathom but definitely not surprising anymore.
For those complaining about "emails do nothing BUY SOMETHING."
Why not be positive and suggest both? Buying something + emailing is super effective, why shun one idea and condescendingly suggesting the other?
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On October 15 2012 03:25 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 01:58 Jormundr wrote:
This thread is a horrible, horrible idea.
Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage. This is the only real criticism that has made me seriously question the idea. But in the end, it's not like this information is hidden somewhere, and there are already hate campaigns directed at sponsors, they seem to be doing fine without me. I want to offer an alternative and encourage people to do something positive. People like me who are grateful but lazy. I'm not saying that this is a great idea, but I don't think it's a horrible idea neither, and some people in the business that I do respect and listen to seem to like the idea. Also, I refuse to let my choices be dictated by assholes.
How is this valid criticism? The sponsors are obvious, for obvious reasons(lol). This thread wont be any fuel to people who email sponsors in a dumb founded rage. They already have asshats to provide them links.
It seems like a high rate of users on TL have some depression issues. The fact people have to point out to many that there isnt anything to hate on here is pathetic. Everyone hatin needs to find a different past time. Such pointless bs.
Anyway, this was a good idea. Dont think otherwise!
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On October 15 2012 07:24 CounterOrder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 03:25 Vaftrudner wrote:On October 15 2012 01:58 Jormundr wrote:
This thread is a horrible, horrible idea.
Now whenever pitchforks get raised, there's a convenient, well-formatted channel for people to express their rage. This is the only real criticism that has made me seriously question the idea. But in the end, it's not like this information is hidden somewhere, and there are already hate campaigns directed at sponsors, they seem to be doing fine without me. I want to offer an alternative and encourage people to do something positive. People like me who are grateful but lazy. I'm not saying that this is a great idea, but I don't think it's a horrible idea neither, and some people in the business that I do respect and listen to seem to like the idea. Also, I refuse to let my choices be dictated by assholes. How is this valid criticism? The sponsors are obvious, for obvious reasons(lol). This thread wont be any fuel to people who email sponsors in a dumb founded rage. They already have asshats to provide them links. It seems like a high rate of users on TL have some depression issues. The fact people have to point out to many that there isnt anything to hate on here is pathetic. Everyone hatin needs to find a different past time. Such pointless bs. Anyway, this was a good idea. Dont think otherwise!
Meh, some people are negative, it's no surprise. Don't confuse it with depression though. I suffer from chronic depression and it's only made it much more apparent to me how important it is to try to be constructive and hang on to whatever positive things you can find. Depression is a medical condition, being whiny and negative may just be a character flaw. Just random PSA of the day I find it a bit offensive when psychological disorders are being thrown around like that. Thanks for what you said though.
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It would be interesting to know which companies that are "proper" sponsors and which that are only product sponsors, as I don't have as much love for the latter. But that's only a thought, a curious wish.
Thanks for the links. It will be good to have in hand when I do my occasional twitter shoutouts. 
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What a pointless thread. As nice as it may be, the world doesn't run in nice words. Thank them, thats fine. It's appreciated and all, but kind of useless. A way to thank them is buy their products. That's it. Writing emails and shit is nice but pointless.
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A while back I wanted to thank Kingston Hyper X about their sponsorship, and tell them that basically the new ram I bought was this brand because of it, however I had trouble finding the correct customer form to contact them.
Thanks OP, it is a great idea to list all sponsors of the major teams in here :-).
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On October 15 2012 18:38 BgSBendeR wrote:
What a pointless thread. As nice as it may be, the world doesn't run in nice words. Thank them, thats fine. It's appreciated and all, but kind of useless. A way to thank them is buy their products. That's it. Writing emails and shit is nice but pointless.
That is just so wrong. It boggles my mind how people think the world runs. Sponsor companies aren't some dead machinery that only works on dollar put in and dollar put out.
Sponsors are a lot of people working together. And you can very much influence what these people think or do simply by using words, not dollars. Maybe someone in the marketing department had to fight against traditionalists who were opposed to sponsoring something weird like ESPORTS over traditional targets. Maybe his manager will ask him how the sponsorship is working out next week. Just 10 emails from fans who thanked for the sponsorship, and bought / recommended their products can be the deciding factor over a continued or stopped sponsorship.
They don't know you bought their product because of ESPORTS sponsorship unless you tell them.
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Yo, you should put up Asus ROG. Personal sponsorship with Elfi and giving us the awesome Asus ROG tournaments
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On October 15 2012 21:28 Lallis wrote:Yo, you should put up Asus ROG. Personal sponsorship with Elfi and giving us the awesome Asus ROG tournaments
You should :D And to save some time, here is their facebook and website!
http://www.facebook.com/rognordic
http://rog.asus.com/
https://twitter.com/ASUS_ROG
I just can't get why people can't see why it really helps when you say good stuff to sponsors. You can surely see why negatives emails to sponsors work... So just flip it on its head. There you go! Positive feedback works too!
Sick thread I shall be sure to come here when I want to be sending happy emails to the sponsors.
EDIT: Added twitter too.
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great thing and ideea, good job! :D
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Great idea! Should be a sticky.
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A thank you goes a very long way in this world. Having worked for various companies over the years I can say when you receive one from customer- i.e someone from outside the company it does make you feel that the effort you put in is appreciated, makes your working day slightly less long. Plus sponsors hope you recommend products to friends, coworkers who are thinking about getting a new keyboard etc.. Brand loyalty isn't something with a fixed value to a company. In the retail world it is widely known that if you have something to complain about you will tell everyone you meet about it (poor service in a resturant, bad customer service), but rarely will you tell them of a good experience. If you do appreicate a sponsors support letting them know is never a bad idea.
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I support this thread. Well done.
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On October 15 2012 23:30 jlake02 wrote:
I support this thread. Well done.
Same here. The sponsors getting positive feedback about their e-sports investment and contributions to the scene can really only be a good thing. Obviously the money and air time for advertisements help too, but I doubt they'd mind getting (basically) fan mail.
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