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On October 13 2012 08:32 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:11 mrtomjones wrote:
Man.. you need to think before you complain. Free to play vs pay to play. Blizzard does not want people to play their game for free and unfortunately this is one effective way to stop it. They are putting in new functions for tournaments as it is but I very much doubt you will ever see Lan for SC2. Counter-argument. Riot is not a charity, they rely on their unlock system to make money. As with all F2P games, this involves accounts being stored on the server to ensure that people do not get free shit. A LAN client opens up the door to hacking the game and allowing all champs and skins to be unlocked. This is equivalent to SC2 "piracy" that would result from LAN. Let's just ignore the fact that wringing your hands over piracy for a game that's 2 years old is just idiotic. Second point, this is not the real reason that SC2 doesn't have LAN, it's due to KESPAs previous bullshit. The use of a LAN client for tournaments would have to be authorized and monitored. If KESPA got ahold of it there's the potential to open pandora's box and cut off Blizzards influence in Korea once again, though you would think Blizzard has put MORE than enough legal protections in place to prevent that from happening now. One way or the other Blizzard should be ashamed of themselves. A F2P entirely online game is about to beat them in the "technology" race and clearly demonstrating that they care about the player experience and tournament legitimacy.
I thought Blizzard actually stated themselves that the reason was mostly due to piracy. In fact just look at Diablo 3 as a prime example of Blizzard's direction of consistently trying to force players to stay online to the point of actually stripping away any form of offline play.
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On October 13 2012 08:10 mrRoflpwn wrote:
Why do people keep making threads about things that have bee discussed to death multiple times?? Is it really that hard to not understand that piracy is the biggest reason??
No one is gonna pirate sc2 to play versus the Ai or have their friends bring their entire set ups over.
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I think blizzard's concern is that if SC2 gets LAN it will be easily pirated.
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On October 13 2012 08:10 Fionn wrote:
If SC2 was free-to-play, it would have LAN.
It's not, so it doesn't have it.
Exactly this
As long as SC2 isnt free, it won't have a freely available LAN feature
That being said, it would be pretty cool if there were a LAN feature available exclusively for big name tournaments
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On October 13 2012 08:59 Silencioseu wrote:
I think blizzard's concern is that if SC2 gets LAN it will be easily pirated.
You can already pirate sc2,you just can't play on Bnet. Adding LAN will do nothing other then Blizzard will no longer look stupid as fuck every time there is a dc in a tournament.
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So according to your logic, paid games should have fewer features than free games?
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On October 13 2012 09:02 writer22816 wrote:
So according to your logic, paid games should have fewer features than free games?
No no the logic is pirated games should be easier and better to play than games you pay for. Gotta hurt the paying customer.
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Some of you guys have really short memories. With no LAN, Blizzard essentially holds the nuclear option in any eSF/KeSPA debacle that can (and most likely will) arise in the future. Competition encourages healthy growth of esports, and if there was a LAN mode in the game KeSPA could essentially give the middle finger to eSF and Blizzard and pull all their players out of every foreign tournament and the GSL.
Blizzard more than likely WAS going to step into the GSL Season 4 / Season 5 issue, but eSF took it upon itself to pull its players out of the OSL.
This all isn't to say places like MLG, IPL, GSL, etc should not have a LAN client, but I'm sure Blizzard is terrified it could basically be "cracked" by tournament employees and thus the nuclear option is lost.
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riot dont make money on each account the way blizzard does thats why blizzard doesn't give sc2 lan and probably never will. get over it move on or ask blizzard to make battle.net less shit for tournaments.
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On October 13 2012 09:02 Juggernaut477 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:59 Silencioseu wrote:
I think blizzard's concern is that if SC2 gets LAN it will be easily pirated. You can already pirate sc2,you just can't play on Bnet. Adding LAN will do nothing other then Blizzard will no longer look stupid as fuck every time there is a dc in a tournament.
You don't need to pirate SC2 to play it for free. SC2 is free for singleplayer mode. The only thing that keeps it afloat is multiplayer.
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It's not coming because Activision Blizzard wants complete control over every game of sc2 played.
Stop asking for it. Stop talking about it. Thanks.
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On October 13 2012 09:11 NeutraLiTe wrote:
Some of you guys have really short memories. With no LAN, Blizzard essentially holds the nuclear option in any eSF/KeSPA debacle that can (and most likely will) arise in the future. Competition encourages healthy growth of esports, and if there was a LAN mode in the game KeSPA could essentially give the middle finger to eSF and Blizzard and pull all their players out of every foreign tournament and the GSL.
Blizzard more than likely WAS going to step into the GSL Season 4 / Season 5 issue, but eSF took it upon itself to pull its players out of the OSL.
This all isn't to say places like MLG, IPL, GSL, etc should not have a LAN client, but I'm sure Blizzard is terrified it could basically be "cracked" by tournament employees and thus the nuclear option is lost.
I don't think you understand what competition actually is.
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Riot and blizzards commitment to seeing their game grow as an esport is a night and day difference, you can't really compare the two.
Riot does almost everything and anything possible. Blizzard tells us to go fuck ourselves and likes to talk about how great everyone is doing.
-From a blizzard fanboy
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On October 13 2012 09:17 Talack wrote:
Riot and blizzards commitment to seeing their game grow as an esport is a night and day difference, you can't really compare the two.
Riot does almost everything and anything possible. Blizzard tells us to go fuck ourselves and likes to talk about how great everyone is doing.
-From a blizzard fanboy
The question is not what they do. Is what we are going to do. Comments like this only promotes mutual wound licking.
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Anyone see IdrA's tweets?
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I don't think that privacy is the real concern here. But with lan, Blizzard would lose any control over tournaments. Tournaments are of course the heart of esports and esports is where the hardcore gamers are and hardcore gamers keep a lot of others interested in the game.
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Piracy is a very minor concern in regards to LAN, but it's the one they are most public about because saying "we don't want KeSPA (or anyone else) to ruin the international scene and make us lose money" wouldn't be as well received by the media.
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Nothing is SC2 is as good as it should be, LAN being on that list.
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On October 13 2012 08:21 HooK2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 08:15 setzer wrote:
Blizzard just doesn't have the technology to make it possible. Your post is like "Santa doesnt have the technology to deliver presents on Christmas." ...
Considering Santa isn't real, and doesn't actually deliver presents, that is a horrible analogy. Not to mention you missed the obvious sarcasm.
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On October 13 2012 08:10 Fionn wrote:
If SC2 was free-to-play, it would have LAN.
It's not, so it doesn't have it.
Yeah cus only free games have LAN...
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