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Intel Extreme Masters head to Singapore
The Intel Extreme Masters will make its first visit to Singapore. From the 22-25th of November the SITEX, one of the most renowned consumer electronics trade shows in southeast Asia, will be host to the second Intel Extreme Masters stop of the season. The StarCraft II and League of Legends tournaments come with a total of 82.000$ in prize money. The winners will earn spots for the World Championship at CeBIT 2013 in Hanover, Germany.
"The tour has never been to Singapore before. It is a strategic goal for ESL and for Intel to bring eSports at the highest level to new territories every season in order to develop competitive gaming worldwide," says Michał Blicharz, the Director of Pro Gaming at Turtle Entertainment GmbH. "We are excited to see what kind of reception local fans will give to gaming superstars at SITEX 2012."
Source: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season7/news/205491/
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So this is replace for IEM China and seeds from there will carry here?
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On October 10 2012 01:02 Syncker wrote:
So this is replace for IEM China and seeds from there will carry here?
I think so. Guess they will say more about it eventually.
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YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here!
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HOLY SHIT YES YES YES YES YES YES
THANK YOU ESL AND IEM AND EVERYONE YOU ARE ALL GODS AMONG MEN
SINGAPOREEEEEEEEEEEEEE
it's about time too YES. will be there, can't wait!
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On October 10 2012 01:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here!
I can. WCG 2005. It was rad as hell.
Btw, helps to read the link. "The Intel Extreme Masters Singapore do not act as a replacement event for the recently cancelled Intel Extreme Masters China. "
:p
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nice, can't wait to see how everyone does
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HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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On October 10 2012 01:21 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here! I can. WCG 2005. It was rad as hell. Btw, helps to read the link. "The Intel Extreme Masters Singapore do not act as a replacement event for the recently cancelled Intel Extreme Masters China. ":p
I hear some Mrs Grubby is from our lonely little island too!
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On October 10 2012 01:21 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here! I can. WCG 2005. It was rad as hell. Btw, helps to read the link. "The Intel Extreme Masters Singapore do not act as a replacement event for the recently cancelled Intel Extreme Masters China. ":p
So sad, feel sorry for the people that went through the entire qualification process for IEM China
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WWWWWWAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDD??????????????????
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Wowowow what
the only thing that makes me sad is no Dota 2 
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This pleases me, Singapore loves their games, I'd expect a very good crowd hopefully 
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Yes, IEM's coming to the little red dot!!!
Thats gonna be great
@Grubby: Laksa and Tiger, my treat :p
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On October 10 2012 01:13 Proseat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:02 Syncker wrote:
So this is replace for IEM China and seeds from there will carry here? I think so. Guess they will say more about it eventually.
No it's not a replacement.
The Intel Extreme Masters Singapore do not act as a replacement event for the recently cancelled Intel Extreme Masters China. Both events were planned stops from the beginning of the season.
The fact that the players qualified for IEM China get some IEM points and a better seeding for IEM Singapore qualifiers is great, that's what I was expecting from IEM, they always do a good job.
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On October 10 2012 01:38 Lyter wrote:This pleases me, Singapore loves their games, I'd expect a very good crowd hopefully
I wish more people loved SC2 here But still very excited for this!
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Cassandra hosting Grubby commentating, you heard it here first! :D
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ITT Singaporeans go insane. Good for them, should be a great event.
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Oh I wish I could go.
I already have a trip to Bangkok planned on Nov27.
Drat.
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Now that all the Singapoereans are getting what they want, it's time to bring some tourneys to SoCal.
Please.
PLEASE.
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On October 10 2012 03:09 Nuclease wrote:
Now that all the Singapoereans are getting what they want, it's time to bring some tourneys to SoCal.
Please.
PLEASE.
MLG Anaheim seems to always deliver amazing storylines/games and memorable moments like HOTS Beta o:
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This is awesome news,
Will definately attend!
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On October 10 2012 01:02 Syncker wrote:
So this is replace for IEM China and seeds from there will carry here?
Well, I guess not because Carmac said that they won't replace IEM China.
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I AM GOING FOR MY FIRST SC2 LIVE EVENT
hopefully lots of pro gamers will attend
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Praise the Lord!
Finally gonna see a live event! I cant wait. :3
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Exactly same time as DH winter. Hopefully different time zones make this watchable.
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Grubby commentating would be awesome
EDIT: Or playing... or both (!!!) hahahaha
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On October 10 2012 01:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here!
make some NOOOIIIIISE at the event!
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Haha another tournament in November, sure why not.. Same weekend as Dreamhack Winter tho
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GG Can't wait for this!
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Really bad that they put it on the exact same dates as DHW...
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On October 10 2012 03:09 Nuclease wrote:
Now that all the Singapoereans are getting what they want, it's time to bring some tourneys to SoCal.
Please.
PLEASE.
This is a joke, right? SoCal has the most famously active local scene...
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On October 10 2012 02:02 Dexington wrote:
ITT Singaporeans go insane. Good for them, should be a great event.
ITT Singaporeans gripe they won't be in the country at the time.
PS: I won't be in the country at the time.
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On October 10 2012 01:42 Usul.775 wrote:Yes, IEM's coming to the little red dot!!! Thats gonna be great @Grubby: Laksa and Tiger, my treat :p
Don't joke around with that, if it turns out not to be true I will chew bubble gum. Thanks! :D
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What? No Dota2?
And during Sitex? It will be crowded as hell
Though cant wait to see the sc2 pro live in action
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this is amazing new good to hear that its expanding out there
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On October 10 2012 06:37 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:42 Usul.775 wrote:Yes, IEM's coming to the little red dot!!! Thats gonna be great @Grubby: Laksa and Tiger, my treat :p Don't joke around with that, if it turns out not to be true I will chew bubble gum. Thanks! :D
Laksa and Tiger are really cheap.. I would treat you that and (a lot) more if I was in Singapore! =(
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Awesome, cant wait to catch it live!
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Great, now come to Alberta next!!
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Finally! Gonna skip classes for this!!
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OMG!!!!!!! I am so going to go!
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My last paper for A levels ends on the 25th, with any luck, I might be able to hurl ass from school to Sitex in time for the finals!
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damn..i'm in malaysia but i want to go
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Oh wow. I can actually fly out into Singapore for this.
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On October 10 2012 06:35 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 02:02 Dexington wrote:
ITT Singaporeans go insane. Good for them, should be a great event. ITT Singaporeans gripe they won't be in the country at the time. PS: I won't be in the country at the time.
Awww!
YESS! My dream is to just chill with all the progamers like its nothing, like we're best pals and all, going drinking and watching movies and all. I hope Scarlett goes there, but I love all progamers man, OMG MY DREAM COME TRUE!
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I'm glad ESL is expanding to long neglected parts of the world to grow the internationality of SC2.
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this would be called IEM Yay, not IEM Singapore!
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Looks like I'll have to save money for this trip...
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On October 10 2012 01:21 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
YESSSSS!!!!! As a singaporean I'm pumped. Can't remember the last time a major international gaming event was held here! I can. WCG 2005. It was rad as hell. Btw, helps to read the link. "The Intel Extreme Masters Singapore do not act as a replacement event for the recently cancelled Intel Extreme Masters China. ":p
I do too........but I was a kid back then, was so proud when sky won it. Pity I didn't get your autograph back then(Moon's too) because I wasn't a huge fan of Orc LOL.........I WILL get your autograph this time though.....
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does this have an open bracket?
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FCK YEA 10 minutes for me to reach there ^^ At last a tournament as big as IEM in SINGAPORE! Nice to host it after O-level!
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IEM Singapore 0.o That be weird hahaha. Kinda not used to having events in Singapore
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Finally a chance to watch live SC2 here in Singapore. Missed WCS qualifier as I was overseas.
I saw it's held at Sitex too. While not everyone there might be watching the games, god those shows have a huge crowd.
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Time to work on my SC2 Skill!
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On October 10 2012 13:44 dtGDualan wrote:
does this have an open bracket?
Yes, it will have a 32 slots open Bracket.
On October 10 2012 14:52 KillAudio wrote:
Now invite SEA players!
SEA Qualification will be announced tonight/tomorrow morning.
Singapore national qualification will be announced later.
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On October 10 2012 15:10 ESLSEA wrote:Yes, it will have a 32 slots open Bracket. SEA Qualification will be announced tonight/tomorrow morning. Singapore national qualification will be announced later.
nice! poor uni students though =p
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Jeez Carmac, do I have an excuse to miss out on this one?
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OH MY GOD :DDDDDD SOOOOO HAPPY
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It's like the week before Uni finals haha, I'll squeeze some time in-between revision to attend I guess.
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Yes!! I'm definitely attending this :D My first live eSports event ))))
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On October 10 2012 15:10 ESLSEA wrote:Yes, it will have a 32 slots open Bracket. SEA Qualification will be announced tonight/tomorrow morning. Singapore national qualification will be announced later.
Is Scarlett invited!! Oh or is the invites TBA?
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Glad sc2 is really getting into Asia outside KOrea
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On October 10 2012 17:32 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 15:10 ESLSEA wrote:On October 10 2012 13:44 dtGDualan wrote:
does this have an open bracket? Yes, it will have a 32 slots open Bracket. On October 10 2012 14:52 KillAudio wrote:
Now invite SEA players! SEA Qualification will be announced tonight/tomorrow morning. Singapore national qualification will be announced later. Is Scarlett invited!! Oh or is the invites TBA?
There are no invites. People from each region have to qualify. The best available is seed in Stage 2 or 3 of the qualification (number of pre-seeded players is different for each region).
Stage 1 Qualification process for each region (Europe/Africa, America, China, SEA, KR/TW) will be announced in the coming days.
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Omg so hyped now. Gonna be there to watch it. Hope that it's gonna be great
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China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter
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On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter
what has this got to do with china?
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On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter what has this got to do with china?
oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China?  .
+ Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken.
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On October 10 2012 23:08 petrox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter what has this got to do with china? oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China? . + Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken.
Blasphemy, it's part of the Philipines now
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Hell yeah! So excited for this!
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Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D
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TOTALLY PUMMPPPED UP MAN. HOLLY MAMAAAA!
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Nice! Looking forward to this!<3
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Are we constructing new attractions for this? How much are we spending to blow the budget? 3 times, 5 times or 10 times?
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Maybe you'll get to watch starcraft on a 55" OLED screen?!
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On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D
THIS!
Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS
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On October 10 2012 23:15 deathzz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:08 petrox wrote:On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter what has this got to do with china? oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China? . + Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken. Blasphemy, it's part of the Philipines now
0.o I've never heard that one before! But yes Singapore is indeed part of China hahaha
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On October 11 2012 12:28 Dialogue wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D THIS! Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS
yea lets do it!
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On October 11 2012 12:44 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:15 deathzz wrote:On October 10 2012 23:08 petrox wrote:On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter what has this got to do with china? oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China? . + Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken. Blasphemy, it's part of the Philipines now 0.o I've never heard that one before! But yes Singapore is indeed part of China hahaha
took a walk around town recently?
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On October 11 2012 14:08 yichongteo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 12:28 Dialogue wrote:On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D THIS! Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS yea lets do it!
Awesome, sounds good to me.
We have a nice cosy LAN shop we could use for like a 'barcraft' sort of gathering, PM me to discuss!
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nice! overlaps with dreamhack, so ALL day sc2!
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On October 10 2012 06:37 Grubby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 01:42 Usul.775 wrote:Yes, IEM's coming to the little red dot!!! Thats gonna be great @Grubby: Laksa and Tiger, my treat :p Don't joke around with that, if it turns out not to be true I will chew bubble gum. Thanks! :D
Why would I joke around with that? After 8 years in Singapore I sure know better than kidding about food, even more so since I'm french :p
Now it all depends on what kind of Laksa you like/want. My treat still
ps: careful at the custom with the bubble gum though
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Singapore actually sounds really interesting. Will definitely watch. gl!
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On October 11 2012 18:42 korendir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 14:08 yichongteo wrote:On October 11 2012 12:28 Dialogue wrote:On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D THIS! Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS yea lets do it! Awesome, sounds good to me. We have a nice cosy LAN shop we could use for like a 'barcraft' sort of gathering, PM me to discuss!
oh shiiiiiiiii-
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oh yes! Its going to be a great birthday for me i guess! :D
Is there any TL meetup in Singapore? Please PM me, i will be glad to attend
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On October 11 2012 18:42 korendir wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 14:08 yichongteo wrote:On October 11 2012 12:28 Dialogue wrote:On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D THIS! Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS yea lets do it! Awesome, sounds good to me. We have a nice cosy LAN shop we could use for like a 'barcraft' sort of gathering, PM me to discuss!
+1! I have been to their LANshop its sick! Someone make a thread!
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Does IEM sell T-shirts? I hope I can buy and then get autographs.
Sad that it's 1 week before my Uni finals so I'll probably be going for a short period of time only. And someone pm me details to the LAN shop gathering pls
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I hope sc2 and lol will share the money evenly because it would bridge the two communities together.
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On October 12 2012 18:46 aLt)nirvana wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 18:42 korendir wrote:On October 11 2012 14:08 yichongteo wrote:On October 11 2012 12:28 Dialogue wrote:On October 10 2012 23:42 theBALLS wrote:
Someone organise a singapore TL gathering :D THIS! Yes let's organize one! PM me theBALLS yea lets do it! Awesome, sounds good to me. We have a nice cosy LAN shop we could use for like a 'barcraft' sort of gathering, PM me to discuss! +1! I have been to their LANshop its sick! Someone make a thread!
Will you come out of retirement like you did with WCS?
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I'm glad about the players from china not totally getting the shaft, and I am always pumped up for IEM events!
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totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
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On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
And how does this relate to starcraft?
I am not advocating blind patriotism in any way but if anything, at least recognise that Singapore is a society that prioritizes stability above all else. In this respect, you can at least have a guarantee against a repeat of the IEM China incident, and you can be assured that things such as visa issues would be highly unlikely to occur.
In respect to your statements, do note that while drugs are illegal in Singapore, trafficking is the crime that attracts the death penalty. Tourists, or would be tourists would likely know beforehand of the consequences of breaking a law in a foreign country before visiting it. Discussions of the death penalty aside, you should also know that homosexuality is not explicitly forbidden by the law. I would sincerely appreciate it if you could find me a section in the penal code which states so.
There is a large gay community in Singapore. Please don't spread false truths. Whilst cultural acceptance of homosexuality is a problem for the country, it is in no way illegal. Just keep what you do behind close doors and you ought to be fine.
On the grounds of political demonstrations... no comment..heh. ^^
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All rush to take picture with grubby ! hoping Jaedong come IEM TOO XD
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On October 11 2012 12:44 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 23:15 deathzz wrote:On October 10 2012 23:08 petrox wrote:On October 10 2012 22:59 mapthesoul wrote:On October 10 2012 22:52 GohgamX wrote:China will be seeing a lot of eSports 4th quarter what has this got to do with china? oh don't you know that Singapore is a part of China? . + Show Spoiler +I'm Singaporean. Just in case anybody's sarcasm detector is broken. Blasphemy, it's part of the Philipines now 0.o I've never heard that one before! But yes Singapore is indeed part of China hahaha
hahaha , part of both. everywhere i see got pinoy and china -.-
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On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!!
What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic.
On homosexuality
After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force.
You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place.
On political demostrations
No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016.
On killing tourists for smoking weed.
Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging
Singapore completes review of mandatory death penalty
As petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge.
Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear.
As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself.
[Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world.
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Hi im from singapore so will there be any TL gathering happening? Will be glad to attend!!
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On October 15 2012 03:32 zhoujielun wrote:
Hi im from singapore so will there be any TL gathering happening? Will be glad to attend!!
Let's just meet at sitex which shld be held at expo. Singapore ain't that big yea?
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On October 15 2012 00:57 Immutant wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!! What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic. On homosexuality Show nested quote +After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force. You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place. On political demostrations No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016. On killing tourists for smoking weed. Show nested quote +Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging Singapore completes review of mandatory death penaltyAs petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge. Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear. As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself. [Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world. holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
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On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points
1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too
2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers.
3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US).
And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
[Edit] I would like to clarify that I thought making out means 'having sex'. Just throwing in a outrageous scenerio.
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I'll be attending this with a few friends so hopefully one of you guys will be wearing a TL shirt so we can hang out. :D
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Back to topic w/o the politics, this is great news for the region.
by the way the ESL post in slightly misleading. the event will take place at Singapore Expo, which is not what's shown in the photo (that's Marina Bay Sands Casino). Singapore Expo is far from the city (near the airport though) and basically a place for warehouse sales and exhibitions and mega churches. Not glitzy at all.
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On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why? Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'.
Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'.
And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them)
The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals.
Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs.
There is virtually no credible opposition here.
People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about.
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We have a barcraft for almost every big event and lots of people come. Also I think there is a huge LoL following in Singapore.
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On October 17 2012 13:38 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why? Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'. Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'. And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them) The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals. Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs. There is virtually no credible opposition here. People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about.
I'm afraid to ask, but I'm pretty sure there has to be some back story to this 'two gays kissing' thing, like repeat indecent exposure or sexual intercourse in public or the officer arresting them has prejudice or whatever. Was it just a freak thing or a common occurance?
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On October 17 2012 14:18 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 13:38 lisward wrote:On October 17 2012 06:53 Immutant wrote:On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:
holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why? Huh? What do you mean brutal and oppressive? TLDR, here are my points 1) Gays making out in public in any country would probably get them arrested too 2) Singapore, like the United States, can sentence drug traffickers to death. The sentence is much lesser for consumers. 3) For political demonstrations, you can hold them if you get a permit. If you mean those mass spontaneous ones where a mob gathers, the situation isn't that bad for society to do such a thing. Also, the opposition here isn't as good as the main party (unlike the US). And if the citizen don't like it, he can just immigrate. Unlike North Korea. As for political demonstrations, look at Myanmar (getting better now), or China (Tibet). By no means is the govt 'brutal'. Gays making out in public will not get you arrested in 'any other country'. And homosexuals are not oppressed in Singaporeans, its just an illusion that the government wants to give to the silly conservative Christian population. Newsflash, half of our celebrities are openly gay. (Ok not half, but quite a handful of them) The government has already officially stated that they do not oppress or dislike homosexuals. Consuming weed will not get you executed. You get into trouble for bringing in or selling drugs. There is virtually no credible opposition here. People here are living comfortably, have jobs, education is partially subsidized, we have the best healthcare system in Asia, can literally walk into any place at any time and feel safe without worrying about some gangbanger shooting you in the face, what do we have to complain about. I'm afraid to ask, but I'm pretty sure there has to be some back story to this 'two gays kissing' thing, like repeat indecent exposure or sexual intercourse in public or the officer arresting them has prejudice or whatever. Was it just a freak thing or a common occurance?
I don't remember anyone getting thrown into jail or fined for it at all, it's just that the law is against it.
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On October 17 2012 14:06 kellymilkies wrote:
We have a barcraft for almost every big event and lots of people come. Also I think there is a huge LoL following in Singapore.
Really?? Why is there never any advertising for them? I'd totally go if I heard about it!
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why am i getting warned?? i just have concerns regarding international events being held in dictatorships.. it's the same like the football world cup in quatar or olympic games in china..
i don't doubt that people can live a happy life there if you adapt yourself to the scene.. but coming from central europe, singapore is one scary place.. it's the most modern dictatorship and things like killing that 18 year old boy from nigeria who was obviously being used as a drug trafficker is quite frightening..
it's funny that people from there defend this government since there isn't even an opposition...
all were being killed or held prison.. anyway my concern that things can go terribly wrong if hundreds of young people from all over the world gather in a place with such strict and unprogressive laws isn't unjustified at all..
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On October 15 2012 17:55 markrevival wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2012 00:57 Immutant wrote:On October 14 2012 22:37 bananafever wrote:
totally against this.. singapore is a modern dictatorship.. they kill tourists for smoking weed, homosexuality is forbidden by law and don't ever try to make a political demonstration or anything close to that... misanthropic place!! What an interesting viewpoint. However, to label Singapore a misanthropic place is misanthropic. On homosexuality After the exhaustive Penal Code review in 2007, oral and anal sex were legalised for heterosexuals and female homosexuals only. The changes meant that oral and anal sex between consenting heterosexual and female homosexual adults were no longer offences but section 377A, which dealt with gross indecency between consenting men, remained in force. You may be homo here, but try to keep in check your raging passions and not do 'that' on the train or in a public place. On political demostrations No comment... I have no idea what is going on with the recent changes in the new Public Order Act. I think you can still host a political speech at the Speaker's corner. Though I think you should time any sociopolitical speeches to coincide with the next election, which should be held in 2016. On killing tourists for smoking weed. Countries that apply capital punishment for drugs
Country Charge(s) Method of execution
Afghanistan Afghanistan firing squad / hanging
Bangladesh Bangladesh firing squad / hanging
Brunei Brunei hanging
China China firing squad / lethal injection
Cuba Cuba firing squad
Egypt Egypt Drug trafficking firing squad / hanging
Indonesia Indonesia firing squad
Iran Iran Trafficking or manufacturing of any drug, and third conviction for drug possession, distribution or sales firing squad / hanging
Iraq Iraq firing squad / hanging
Jordan Jordan Drug trafficking hanging
Kuwait Kuwait firing squad / hanging
Laos Laos hanging
Malaysia Malaysia hanging
North Korea North Korea Drug trafficking or manufacturing firing squad
Oman Oman firing squad
Qatar Qatar decapitation
Pakistan Pakistan hanging
Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia decapitation
Singapore Singapore Drug trafficking in more than the following specified quantities:
1200 grams of opium
30 grams of morphine
15 grams of heroin
30 grams of cocaine
500 grams of cannabis
250 grams of methamphetamine
hanging
Somalia Somalia firing squad
Sri Lanka Sri Lanka hanging
Syria Syria hanging
Sudan Sudan hanging
Taiwan Taiwan firing squad / lethal injection
Thailand Thailand lethal injection[1]
United Arab Emirates United Arab Emirates decapitation / firing squad / hanging
United States electrocution / lethal injection
Vietnam Vietnam lethal injection
Yemen Yemen firing squad
Zimbabwe Zimbabwe hanging Singapore completes review of mandatory death penaltyAs petrox mentioned, trafficking drugs =/= random tourists smoking weed (although you should no bring weed into Singapore). Also the death penalty is no long mandatory for drug trafficking and is subject to the discretion of the judge. Think of it as the ultimate safe place, a drug free society without guns. So long as you live an upright life, you have absolutely nothing to fear. As for being a dictatorship... even if the mass media is controlled by the government, we have the highest smartphone penetration rate in the world... one of the highest computer literacy/Internet usage, some of the best universities, let's just say our society can think for itself. [Edit]FYI, all these is related to the sociopolitical landscape of Singapore and should have no bearing on Starcraft 2. If you are a foreigner, just come over and enjoy. Cultures are different all across the world. holy crap i had no idea Singapore had such a brutal, oppressive government. Seems like the citizens like it that way too. Why?
Coz... stability and if most of the people like the stance on drug trafficking and support capital punishment it's no big deal?
Western countries make too big a deal out of democracy. It has its merits, but it's far from being THE political model.
On October 20 2012 18:22 bananafever wrote:
why am i getting warned?? i just have concerns regarding international events being held in dictatorships.. it's the same like the football world cup in quatar or olympic games in china..
i don't doubt that people can live a happy life there if you adapt yourself to the scene.. but coming from central europe, singapore is one scary place.. it's the most modern dictatorship and things like killing that 18 year old boy from nigeria who was obviously being used as a drug trafficker is quite frightening..
it's funny that people from there defend this government since there isn't even an opposition...
all were being killed or held prison.. anyway my concern that things can go terribly wrong if hundreds of young people from all over the world gather in a place with such strict and unprogressive laws isn't unjustified at all..
Here's a thought... don't bring drugs?
A week without dope won't kill you.
It's not like the Singaporean government has troops to fire at Europeans on sight or anything...
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