EPTOn September 21 2012 08:10 TommyP wrote:
"I personally think that SC2's Zerg is harder to play than BW's Zerg."
Danggg
"I personally think that SC2's Zerg is harder to play than BW's Zerg."
Danggg
It's true with the Larva Inject mechanics.
[Interview]8th team's Jaedong talks about HOTS - Page 5
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BgSBendeR
Canada170 Posts
It's true with the Larva Inject mechanics. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:09 MCXD wrote: There's no point arguing, because people very rarely change their opinions on anything. People read what they want to read, not what is said, and nothing else. Just let them. And tell me, what's your interpretation of Jd's words? I'll be very interested to hear those man. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
Didn't know that bit about Parting. What did he say? | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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Demonhunter04
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This one surprised me. Controlling a large zerg army in Brood War was really tough. SC2 zerg army control hardly even compares. Maybe he says this because he's gotten so good at boxing units? Either way, I'll take his word for it over mine  . | ||
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MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:13 Xiphos wrote: And tell me, what's your interpretation of Jd's words? I'll be very interested to hear those man. I can't see any parts of JD's interview which obviously pertain to a negative stance of SC2 in context. Not only that, but you can't trust the 'exact wording' anyway because: a) it's translated, and b) the OP had a disclaimer at the start saying they were poor with english... lol. So my interpretation is that his stance was neutral, perhaps positive in regards to the growth and development of the game. But also that this is not a remotely reliable source of information for petty arguments. Certain members of the community will use any excuse to shit on SC2 (or BW, inversely). Alternatively, trolls who just like riling people up. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:17 Demonhunter04 wrote: JD: "The main difference of Zerg in both games, if the Queen. I personally think that SC2's Zerg is harder to play than BW's Zerg, because in SC2, player should spawn larvae with Queens to produce units 'Zergishly'. This should be done during whole play time, so it requires more physical ability than before." This one surprised me. Controlling a large zerg army in Brood War was really tough. SC2 zerg army control hardly even compares. Maybe he says this because he's gotten so good at boxing units? Either way, I'll take his word for it over mine .Maybe JD just isn't used to the game yet. And no, I am not making excuses for him. He did, however, play BW for most of his life right? | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7847 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:16 Sumahi wrote: I don't understand why Kespa players seem more manly than GOM players. Leta says hiiiiiiii. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On September 21 2012 06:42 Acer1791 wrote: just one question, cause i didnt follow bw that much..^^ how can you micro lings more in bw, i mean they are melee Oo There is a saying, "Jaedong's zergling is an ultralisk." Many ZvZ matches in BW are decided by zerglings micro battle. It is very hard, and Jaedong won zergling micro battle most of the time, some young zergs actually won mutalisk micro battle against him quite often later in his career, but on zerglings micro, he is always the best. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On September 21 2012 07:24 Coated wrote: I did not want to make this a zerg 'OP' thread, but with the quote from a gamer of his caliber i had too. "I chose Terran for my first main race but I couldn't win the high level Zerg players. So I was very disappointed with myself for a while, and suddenly I found a good idea came to my mind. Why should I play Terran? Playing Zerg will solve the problem! (laugh)" Yea, as has been said 100 times over, if you are a Terran diamond, then you will be a zerg master. If you are a Terran Masters, you will be a zerg GM. etc, etc. Easy mode race. User was temp banned for this post. Man, this hurts my head. He was talking about his teenage years, that's BW. And just for education purpose, BW Terran is stronger than Zerg. Zerg just fits his style better. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
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wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
On September 21 2012 08:14 IshinShishi wrote: perhaps he thinks sc2 is harder because he can't get advantages through his micro and is forced to work on many other areas to compensate, it's a very different game with many new things that he needs to learn whilst he played bw for so long that it's obviously something very natural and easy for him. glad to see someone else got it. On September 21 2012 09:02 ElephantBaby wrote: Man, this hurts my head. He was talking about his teenage years, that's BW. And just for education purpose, BW Terran is stronger than Zerg. Zerg just fits his style better. why would you say that? Terran only has like 60 percent winrate versus zerg in bw (over all televised matches) because of the horrible matches in the beginning. At least, that's what I've heard about it. | ||
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pOnarreT
155 Posts
On September 21 2012 07:24 Coated wrote: I did not want to make this a zerg 'OP' thread, but with the quote from a gamer of his caliber i had too. "I chose Terran for my first main race but I couldn't win the high level Zerg players. So I was very disappointed with myself for a while, and suddenly I found a good idea came to my mind. Why should I play Terran? Playing Zerg will solve the problem! (laugh)" Yea, as has been said 100 times over, if you are a Terran diamond, then you will be a zerg master. If you are a Terran Masters, you will be a zerg GM. etc, etc. Easy mode race. User was temp banned for this post. You're an idiot. He thought of that in BW not sc2 | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:49 wcr.4fun wrote: People are taking his opinon on sc2 zerg vs bw zerg the wrong way. He says zerg in sc2 is harder because of the injects (which are impossible to keep doing 100 percent right the entire game while doing all the other stuff) and because zerg in sc2 has NO micro. So it's a lot harder to get more results out of your army. Eh while the micro isn't intensive like terran splitting there is micro. Most people seem to think zergs just A move and win/lose. No if you just A move into an army unless you are ahead you are going to lose. For example. I have ling/bane and just A move into the terran Marine/tank army. If I just A move banelings hit whatever and zerglings take longer to get a surround. If you win the battle it will not be as decicive as if you had controlled your army so banelings hit groups of units and lings got a surround asap instead of waiting 5 seconds. Same goes with flanking, you just A move a flank without controlling the banelings or anything then you lose. Same goes in zvp as well, if zerg just A moves into a toss army with bl/corr/inf vortex will destroy the zerg and you lose. While again the micro isn't insanely intense or anything zerg has more to do then just A move. | ||
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MeteorRise
Canada611 Posts
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wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
On September 21 2012 09:53 blade55555 wrote: Eh while the micro isn't intensive like terran splitting there is micro. Most people seem to think zergs just A move and win/lose. No if you just A move into an army unless you are ahead you are going to lose. For example. I have ling/bane and just A move into the terran Marine/tank army. If I just A move banelings hit whatever and zerglings take longer to get a surround. If you win the battle it will not be as decicive as if you had controlled your army so banelings hit groups of units and lings got a surround asap instead of waiting 5 seconds. Same goes with flanking, you just A move a flank without controlling the banelings or anything then you lose. Same goes in zvp as well, if zerg just A moves into a toss army with bl/corr/inf vortex will destroy the zerg and you lose. While again the micro isn't insanely intense or anything zerg has more to do then just A move. nice a-move versus right click or a-move vs move in good position and then a-move. Such hard micro :D I've played sc2 zerg myself thank you. I'm also playing brood war zerg now and mutalisk micro, scourge micro, lurker splits, while casting dark swarm, consuming zerglings, zergling micro,.......... are a lot harder than the non-existant micro in sc2. | ||
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