• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:42
CET 13:42
KST 21:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book9Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info6herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2522 users

[Interview]8th team's Jaedong talks about HOTS - Page 8

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
September 22 2012 05:30 GMT
#141
On September 21 2012 05:26 Labbetuss wrote:
This interview is really good. Thanks for translating! Even though I'm a Flash fan, it's hard not to love JD also.


Flash fans should love Jaedong, just like Jaedong fans should love Flash. They just played so many epic games in finals!

[image loading]

They shared top 1 and 2 spot for so long..

And btw thanks for the translation :D
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
September 22 2012 05:50 GMT
#142
Oh dear god, one sentence comparing BW and SC2 from Jaedong and this thread is destroyed roflmao. Of course he prob finds sc2 zerg harder to play, he's used to years and years and years of BW zerg...which some might argue isn't really all that similar to sc2 zerg (stylistically speaking).
willfeeling
Profile Joined August 2012
China97 Posts
September 22 2012 07:40 GMT
#143
nice Interview

JD, i feel he can be a sc2 king
AzureSekaii
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada6 Posts
October 09 2012 01:53 GMT
#144
I understand of him wanting to be a zerg player instead of Terran when your going in a higher league.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 02:48:33
October 09 2012 02:18 GMT
#145
*sigh* Jaedong finds SC2 zerg harder than BW zerg because of the lower skill ceiling. Although both games have a skill ceiling well beyond human capabilities, the way BW's skill ceiling worked meant pros had more "wiggle room" in terms of what they can do better than everyone else.
For instance, no one in BW had perfect macro, much less if they were trying to micro at the same time. Yet, in SC2, this is the norm. In SC2, there is less of that "wiggle room" with what you can do to make yourself better than the other player.
What this means is that he can't just micro his way to walkover wins anymore. He actually has to put forward much more effort to get the same results.
I thought this was obvious, but whatever. Anyways, this is a rather interesting point. Although having a high skill cap is really good, when winning can be done easily, is the high skill cap really all that good? You can achieve the same win rate in SC2 as in BW, but in order to do that, you'll need to be a LOT better than the rest than you would need to be in BW.
It is certainly an interesting point to think about.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 09 2012 02:36 GMT
#146
On October 09 2012 10:53 AzureSekaii wrote:
I understand of him wanting to be a zerg player instead of Terran when your going in a higher league.


that part of the context is about his bw years, sigh, terrans really are dumb.
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Th30nE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States44 Posts
October 09 2012 02:47 GMT
#147
necro on a JD thread is evil.
play hard, train hard, focus, be happy.
StateofReverie
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States633 Posts
October 09 2012 03:03 GMT
#148
jaedong's determination and reasons are so awesome
phrenzy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom478 Posts
October 09 2012 03:31 GMT
#149
On October 09 2012 11:18 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
*sigh* Jaedong finds SC2 zerg harder than BW zerg because of the lower skill ceiling. Although both games have a skill ceiling well beyond human capabilities, the way BW's skill ceiling worked meant pros had more "wiggle room" in terms of what they can do better than everyone else.
For instance, no one in BW had perfect macro, much less if they were trying to micro at the same time. Yet, in SC2, this is the norm. In SC2, there is less of that "wiggle room" with what you can do to make yourself better than the other player.
What this means is that he can't just micro his way to walkover wins anymore. He actually has to put forward much more effort to get the same results.
I thought this was obvious, but whatever. Anyways, this is a rather interesting point. Although having a high skill cap is really good, when winning can be done easily, is the high skill cap really all that good? You can achieve the same win rate in SC2 as in BW, but in order to do that, you'll need to be a LOT better than the rest than you would need to be in BW.
It is certainly an interesting point to think about.



He was specifically talking about production abilities. In BW you didn't have to worry about spawning larvae. In SC2 you have to constantly do it even if you are maxed, i can easily understand how that is more taxing than just having more hatcheries. And his thoughts on the micro abilities of the game, i would agree its way harder to surround because all the races have much more fluid movement. This is what makes SC2 harder than Broodwar. The easier aspects of the game compared to BW come down to Hotkey mapping and Multiple building selection.

Everyone can tell just by watching a zerg game that when they spread creep shows a decent ability to multitask but we rarely get a glimpse of their queens 22 minutes into the game to see how on top are they when it comes to injections. Its hard to measure when just watching GSL/MLG etc unless a caster points it out. And even then micro is so important, just being on top of your production doesn't, and shouldn't equal a free win.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 04:00:07
October 09 2012 03:46 GMT
#150
thanks for the translation, now im really curious what parting said.

edit: found it; it's an issue that got started by a reporter leaving some stuff out of his interview, but then got escalated by both sides. Here's a link that explains the situation in Korean, and here's a brief cap in English:

Parting was asked to rate the Kespa players in an OSL Dual Tournament interview. Before the interview he announced that he was going to play the villain role in the whole ESF vs Kespa situation for laughs, and in the interview he said "Since I am confident in my skill level compared to Kespa players, I'll be treating them as bonuses and picking Kespa players during group nominations." However, the website conducting the interview conveniently leaves out what he said before the interview and reports that, which of course causes a shit storm. Then one of the Kespa team coaches [don't know which one] tweets that Parting needs to learn some manners. In response to this, Parting's side starts spreading a picture of (Z)n.Die_soO talking shit about his own parents [not sure how you can capture that in a picture, but that's what it says], saying Kespa players don't really have much to talk about when it comes to basic manners, and this goes viral. The coach apologizes over twitter, but then Parting responds by saying if what he said in the original interview makes kespa players mad, they should prove it wrong by beating him fair and square.
Translator
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 09 2012 04:22 GMT
#151
Thank you for the interview! Very interesting.
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
October 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#152
wow awesome interview, great to see more about him
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 09 2012 05:13 GMT
#153
Thanks to OP for the interview, and thanks to rotinegg for the additional information.
o choro é livre
khaydarin9
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia423 Posts
October 09 2012 05:22 GMT
#154
On October 09 2012 12:46 rotinegg wrote:
thanks for the translation, now im really curious what parting said.

edit: found it; it's an issue that got started by a reporter leaving some stuff out of his interview, but then got escalated by both sides. Here's a link that explains the situation in Korean, and here's a brief cap in English:

Parting was asked to rate the Kespa players in an OSL Dual Tournament interview. Before the interview he announced that he was going to play the villain role in the whole ESF vs Kespa situation for laughs, and in the interview he said "Since I am confident in my skill level compared to Kespa players, I'll be treating them as bonuses and picking Kespa players during group nominations." However, the website conducting the interview conveniently leaves out what he said before the interview and reports that, which of course causes a shit storm. Then one of the Kespa team coaches [don't know which one] tweets that Parting needs to learn some manners. In response to this, Parting's side starts spreading a picture of (Z)n.Die_soO talking shit about his own parents [not sure how you can capture that in a picture, but that's what it says], saying Kespa players don't really have much to talk about when it comes to basic manners, and this goes viral. The coach apologizes over twitter, but then Parting responds by saying if what he said in the original interview makes kespa players mad, they should prove it wrong by beating him fair and square.


Thanks for the recap. Sounds like Parting's starting (rhyme!) to grow quite the reputation for talking shit, but everyone seems to speak highly of him as a person.

Also, much Jaedong love. That photo of him signing the BroodWar chest with Flash makes me so freaking envious.
Be safe, Woo Jung Ho <3
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 05:48:36
October 09 2012 05:48 GMT
#155
On September 22 2012 14:30 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 05:26 Labbetuss wrote:
This interview is really good. Thanks for translating! Even though I'm a Flash fan, it's hard not to love JD also.


Flash fans should love Jaedong, just like Jaedong fans should love Flash. They just played so many epic games in finals!

[image loading]

They shared top 1 and 2 spot for so long..

And btw thanks for the translation :D

Even when he was beating Flash and his fans were at their most annoying I still respected Jaedong. I don't think Flash would've reached the heights he did without Jaedong, and vice versa. They were both better players because of each other.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
October 09 2012 05:53 GMT
#156
On October 09 2012 14:48 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 14:30 sM.Zik wrote:
On September 21 2012 05:26 Labbetuss wrote:
This interview is really good. Thanks for translating! Even though I'm a Flash fan, it's hard not to love JD also.


Flash fans should love Jaedong, just like Jaedong fans should love Flash. They just played so many epic games in finals!

[image loading]

They shared top 1 and 2 spot for so long..

And btw thanks for the translation :D

Even when he was beating Flash and his fans were at their most annoying I still respected Jaedong. I don't think Flash would've reached the heights he did without Jaedong, and vice versa. They were both better players because of each other.


Yes, exactly !
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
October 09 2012 05:59 GMT
#157
I personally think that SC2's Zerg is harder to play than BW's Zerg, because in SC2, player should spawn larvae with Queens to produce units 'Zergishly'. This should be done during whole play time, so it requires more physical ability than before.

And also SC2 has less variables in micro-control such as Zergling micro or Mutalisk micro. I can overwhelm my opponent only with micro-conrol in BW games but I can't do that in SC2. But I think there are many unrevealed elements in SC2 and I expect we can show you more in the future.

....

Well now we have something to talk about that is relevant from the big name.

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM YOU MAY NOW LEAVE THE ROOM!!!!!!
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
October 09 2012 06:31 GMT
#158
WHAT 3 hours of sleep a night, how do you even stay alive at that point. sick dedication though wow
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
October 09 2012 06:47 GMT
#159
On September 21 2012 07:27 wangstra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 07:24 Coated wrote:
I did not want to make this a zerg 'OP' thread, but with the quote from a gamer of his caliber i had too.

"I chose Terran for my first main race but I couldn't win the high level Zerg players. So I was very disappointed with myself for a while, and suddenly I found a good idea came to my mind. Why should I play Terran? Playing Zerg will solve the problem! (laugh)"

Yea, as has been said 100 times over, if you are a Terran diamond, then you will be a zerg master. If you are a Terran Masters, you will be a zerg GM. etc, etc. Easy mode race.


Facepalm. He was talking about BW.

Yeah and it's even funnier that the one player who could steal JD's 'greatest player of all time' trophy was a Terran. Some people..
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28097 Posts
October 09 2012 06:49 GMT
#160
Jaedong is such a cool guy. Great interview
Administrator
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#73
WardiTV403
OGKoka 204
Rex81
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 204
Rex 81
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6942
Bisu 1945
BeSt 1707
Hyuk 1530
Flash 1050
Horang2 1034
actioN 973
Zeus 728
Larva 421
firebathero 311
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 297
Mini 261
Soma 215
Snow 206
ZerO 203
JYJ 169
ggaemo 162
PianO 130
Sharp 126
Soulkey 104
hero 90
Pusan 81
Sea.KH 67
Rush 64
Mind 61
Backho 48
Mong 41
Shuttle 29
Free 27
ToSsGirL 27
Shine 26
sorry 25
GoRush 24
Aegong 23
910 18
Shinee 17
Movie 16
soO 16
Bale 16
HiyA 15
Noble 15
SilentControl 10
Icarus 7
Dota 2
XcaliburYe154
NeuroSwarm121
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1894
shoxiejesuss1227
byalli851
x6flipin615
allub289
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King149
Other Games
singsing1937
B2W.Neo495
crisheroes311
Pyrionflax167
Sick151
Livibee63
ZerO(Twitch)14
Happy12
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1632
CasterMuse 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 72
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV49
League of Legends
• Nemesis9898
• Jankos1772
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
4h 19m
Replay Cast
11h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
21h 19m
LiuLi Cup
22h 19m
Reynor vs Creator
Maru vs Lambo
PiGosaur Monday
1d 12h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
LiuLi Cup
1d 22h
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Online Event
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.