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Context: LG-IM's Head Coach gets routinely criticized in and outside of Korea for frequently using his team's lesser players, which may have contributed to his team's streak of poor results in the GSTL.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
September 08 2012 04:52 GMT
#201
ahah well IM has top players, he must know what he's doing ^^
GL tonight~~
Mmm, what to watch.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
September 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#202
Like I've pointed out many times - the gstl is a minor competition compared to the gsl. It makes sense to send out weaker players to give them exposure and more importantly motivation. This 2nd string players are extremely important as support to the top players. Many ppl in TL are simply short sighted
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
September 08 2012 04:55 GMT
#203
Losira looks killer :D
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
September 08 2012 05:09 GMT
#204
On September 08 2012 11:36 Chriscras wrote:
Listen I love IM, I love Nestea and Seed and I have been an IM fanboi since Nestea won Open Season 2.

I respect Coach Kang and no one can ever argue that he hasn't produce more individual championships than all the other teams, and it is wonderful that he is posting on TL <3

That being said we have to objectively consider IM's historical performance in the GSTL:

Feb 2011 - Winners!
March 2011 - Runner ups!
May 2011 - Did not qualify T___T
2011 Season 1 - Third Place in Group B, out the first round of the playoffs.
2012 Season 1 - Eliminated the second round by NSH.

Having watched every single one of their GSTL matches, I believe to some extent the criticism is justified.

I am not saying Coach Kang shouldn't send out lower tier players in the earliest matches in a series, but if he truly wants to show us as many "great" matches as possible, he should be picking the players that will guarantee the team's advancement to the later rounds of the tournament. This is especially true when IM is already down a few matches in a series or they are at risk of being eliminated.

There is no doubt in my mind that if IM had made it to the finals last season instead of Slayers there is no way they would have been all-killed by Gumiho

Good luck Coach Kang, we will always cheer for you and your players! Just sometimes your strategic priorities can break our hearts :\

Relying on star players does not make for a strong team. A strong team is one which has a lot of depth to it, and you won't get that if you don't give others the opportunity in the booth. Wouldn't be surprised to see LG-IM completely dominate the team leagues in 2013 at this rate, as other teams crumble when their 1-2 stars get knocked out.

It's a long-term investment, and with LG-IM already having dominant results in individual leagues, I don't think they're too concerned about the short term results they get in the team leagues.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 05:10:42
September 08 2012 05:10 GMT
#205
Mvp is so sexy
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 08 2012 05:25 GMT
#206
I don't think sending out B-teamers is really a problem, I think it was WCS where I last saw dreamertt play and his play has improved by leaps and bounds, the team seems to be rising and rising lately.

LG-IM fighting!
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
September 08 2012 05:39 GMT
#207
On September 08 2012 14:10 Juliette wrote:
Mvp is so sexy

not nearly as sexy as Bisu :D
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
September 08 2012 05:42 GMT
#208
LG-IM for GSTL 3 2012 champs!
Spread your eggs until they crack!
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 08 2012 05:54 GMT
#209
LG-IM needs a player with some outrageous hairdo. That way you have someone totally standing out in group pictures.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
September 08 2012 06:10 GMT
#210
On September 08 2012 14:09 iamcaustic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 11:36 Chriscras wrote:
Listen I love IM, I love Nestea and Seed and I have been an IM fanboi since Nestea won Open Season 2.

I respect Coach Kang and no one can ever argue that he hasn't produce more individual championships than all the other teams, and it is wonderful that he is posting on TL <3

That being said we have to objectively consider IM's historical performance in the GSTL:

Feb 2011 - Winners!
March 2011 - Runner ups!
May 2011 - Did not qualify T___T
2011 Season 1 - Third Place in Group B, out the first round of the playoffs.
2012 Season 1 - Eliminated the second round by NSH.

Having watched every single one of their GSTL matches, I believe to some extent the criticism is justified.

I am not saying Coach Kang shouldn't send out lower tier players in the earliest matches in a series, but if he truly wants to show us as many "great" matches as possible, he should be picking the players that will guarantee the team's advancement to the later rounds of the tournament. This is especially true when IM is already down a few matches in a series or they are at risk of being eliminated.

There is no doubt in my mind that if IM had made it to the finals last season instead of Slayers there is no way they would have been all-killed by Gumiho

Good luck Coach Kang, we will always cheer for you and your players! Just sometimes your strategic priorities can break our hearts :\

Relying on star players does not make for a strong team. A strong team is one which has a lot of depth to it, and you won't get that if you don't give others the opportunity in the booth. Wouldn't be surprised to see LG-IM completely dominate the team leagues in 2013 at this rate, as other teams crumble when their 1-2 stars get knocked out.

It's a long-term investment, and with LG-IM already having dominant results in individual leagues, I don't think they're too concerned about the short term results they get in the team leagues.

GSTL is Winners League format which means that having 1-2(3, in IM's case) star players is quite viable.
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 06:31:00
September 08 2012 06:22 GMT
#211
IM has 2 live finals wins, 1 online win, and a live second. That is statistically the best of any team.
Haters just gunna hate.

The truth is that Yongwha has better GSTL record than MVP or Nestea. People just assume they can win on command but they are hugely preparation based players.

Last GSTL, they lost in the first round by playing Losira, yoda, happy, mvp and nestea. That's 5 code s players! What do you want him to send in? They were eliminated while playing yoda, yongwha, seed, happy and nestea. They are all code s except for yongwha, and YONGWHA was the only one to get any kills!

Reasons for this "poor performance" (actually the best of any team), is partially that they practice mostly for individual leagues, where they have wild success, but mainly that they are just so damn successful in individual leagues that anything besides 8 GSTL's seems lackluster.
esports
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 06:28:31
September 08 2012 06:28 GMT
#212
On September 08 2012 15:10 Turgid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 14:09 iamcaustic wrote:
On September 08 2012 11:36 Chriscras wrote:
Listen I love IM, I love Nestea and Seed and I have been an IM fanboi since Nestea won Open Season 2.

I respect Coach Kang and no one can ever argue that he hasn't produce more individual championships than all the other teams, and it is wonderful that he is posting on TL <3

That being said we have to objectively consider IM's historical performance in the GSTL:

Feb 2011 - Winners!
March 2011 - Runner ups!
May 2011 - Did not qualify T___T
2011 Season 1 - Third Place in Group B, out the first round of the playoffs.
2012 Season 1 - Eliminated the second round by NSH.

Having watched every single one of their GSTL matches, I believe to some extent the criticism is justified.

I am not saying Coach Kang shouldn't send out lower tier players in the earliest matches in a series, but if he truly wants to show us as many "great" matches as possible, he should be picking the players that will guarantee the team's advancement to the later rounds of the tournament. This is especially true when IM is already down a few matches in a series or they are at risk of being eliminated.

There is no doubt in my mind that if IM had made it to the finals last season instead of Slayers there is no way they would have been all-killed by Gumiho

Good luck Coach Kang, we will always cheer for you and your players! Just sometimes your strategic priorities can break our hearts :\

Relying on star players does not make for a strong team. A strong team is one which has a lot of depth to it, and you won't get that if you don't give others the opportunity in the booth. Wouldn't be surprised to see LG-IM completely dominate the team leagues in 2013 at this rate, as other teams crumble when their 1-2 stars get knocked out.

It's a long-term investment, and with LG-IM already having dominant results in individual leagues, I don't think they're too concerned about the short term results they get in the team leagues.

GSTL is Winners League format which means that having 1-2(3, in IM's case) star players is quite viable.

Not against a team with strong depth. Relying on all-kills, 3-kills, etc., while they do occur, isn't very stable. There's also no guarantee that StarCraft 2 team leagues will remain winner's league format. Interested to see what Proleague does in their upcoming seasons, if they invite eSF teams to participate. If so, star players alone won't be able to carry a team.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
September 08 2012 06:53 GMT
#213
I think DongHoon Kang made the right decision today.

Not too sure yet tho

JK
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
PedroBlanco
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada65 Posts
September 08 2012 07:03 GMT
#214
Very impressive games vs Fnatic!
CuteZergling
Profile Joined November 2011
641 Posts
September 08 2012 07:05 GMT
#215
Grats IM!!!
Team owner of team QTLing
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
September 08 2012 07:08 GMT
#216
Karma after wolfdor's snarky remark at the beginning of the evening relating to this topic about the decision to start with Yonghwa.

It seems particularly wrong that the GSTL's english casters take part in this...problem.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 08 2012 07:13 GMT
#217
Nice games vs Fnatic,+ Show Spoiler +
ALL KILL by yonghwa! :D
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 08 2012 07:26 GMT
#218
Seeing as Kang continuously involves the whole team and not just stars makes me respect him all the more, especially when short-term goals are missed. He makes sure he has a team and not a conglomerate of stars and dishwashers and he has the balls to take the losses it needs for confidence to build up. Boasting that many titles and not being afraid to put trust in lesser known players makes them easily one of the most attractive team out there. And it makes Kang the most sympathetic coach in my book, caring for his boys not only behind the scenes but also when shit is on the line. Mad props!
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
September 08 2012 07:32 GMT
#219
WP today
Eusebiu23
Profile Joined July 2012
United States31 Posts
September 08 2012 07:42 GMT
#220
I appreciate this coach doing this, its not all about the stars of the team, everyone needs a chance and I respect him as a coach, we should all give him a break
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