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On September 07 2012 10:22 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth. How would that work, then? Wouldn't that mean that individual divisions would have to be entirely fluid? After all, if you have a division with 100 at one point selected players, that is static apart from promotions and demotions, it'd be impossible to make such a definitive statement.
That's how I feel. But it's not like you play the people in your division anyways, so if I get better and I need to be put in a new division then so be it.
But now you can say okay i have 500 in diamond, and he has 500 in diamond. That will mean something. If you're not in the 500 diamond range then you will earn less points for wins, and lose more points for losses until you improve your MMR to that range. So it will definitely help when comparing players.
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Lol another buff to Zerg! The rocks at tal darim! At least that map is falling out of favor everywhere so I'll just veto it
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It's good the are moving to ratio/percentile based system for the leagues. Makes it much easier to figure out where you are at rather than going on SC2ranks.com.
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On September 07 2012 10:22 Nimic wrote:Show nested quote +After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players, and you are very close to moving into the Master League. Similarly, Rank 50 Platinum is in the top 50% in the Platinum league, and so forth. How would that work, then? Wouldn't that mean that individual divisions would have to be entirely fluid? After all, if you have a division with 100 at one point selected players, that is static apart from promotions and demotions, it'd be impossible to make such a definitive statement.
No, I doubt divisions will be fluid. What will happen is division modifiers will be removed. Modifiers are +point adjustments that are applied to players in "worse" divisions to inflate their point levels. The initial idea, I think, was so that all divisions would have similar point levels regardless of tier. So suppose a higher diamond division (let's call it an S-tier Diamond division) has people ranging from 300-1000 points. A low-MMR diamond division (let's call it a E-tier Diamond division) has points ranging from 300-1000 as well, but everyone in this E-tier division has a lower MMR and really only has between 100-800 points, but boosted +200 to normalize.
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I'm more excited about not having rocks on Tal'darim, personally.
They're getting better at map pools.
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Wait, when they say tiers, it means divisions right? If not, then where can I see tiers?
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I think in this case, they will have divisions but you will probably be moved around between divisions instead of staying in one. You will probably have 100 player divisions still because it's simply easier to see, I don't think blizzard will go to xbl/ps3 leaderboard style with thousands of different names and you have to scroll up a lot just to see #1. I think instead we're going to see groups of 100 still, but when someone gets to #1 in their division, and they haven't beaten the #1 in their division in MMR, then they probably get moved to another division to be #1 over there. Essentially, blizzard is going to try and balance out all the divisions by making it seem like there aren't tiers at all, but that's just my guess.
So what this means is each rank, 1-100 corresponds to a percentile. if you are exactly rank 50, but there is someone else who is rank 50 in your division, you probably get moved to a new one where you can fit.
I'm not sure how else they'd do it, unless they grouped everyone together into one giant leaderboard for each rank like SC2ranks
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Holy shit, the ladder placement in each league will actually mean something O_o. Have do admit it was quite fun watching Masters getting their asses kicked by low level plat players.
EDIT: Like what @emc said, the divisions and max 100 players per division will remain, now however the top 5 and top 10 truly represents the top 5 and top 10% of the league. If we have 10 divisions with 1000 people then each person that is top 1 will truly be the top 1% since that number one spot only shared with 9 other people, top 5 will only be shared by 50 people and so on.
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Ah, cant wait for the new season to come! and good changes also!
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no tiers sound good but looking at the team map changes it appears that instead of removing all the old maps (all of them) and giving us new maps they have cycled in the old ones they had a long time ago which is a bit sad.
Oh and it is going to such when your playing 3v3 on the new silent dunes map (looks like a reskined version of frontier) and the middle person with the two ramps gets 6pooled and you lose the game in a 2v3.
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On September 07 2012 10:18 JethroTV wrote:
Fantastic. I never understood their desire to try and hide information about ones own standings.
According to Blizz people were actually complaining about being able to see their losses.
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I was excited about the tier removal, but then I was told there are no tiers in masters  I guess it's a good thing that the good news was already here.
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Well I don't really have any complaints. Didn't know the Tier thing even existed lol. I like the change on Tal'Darim with the rocks, I kinda don't like rocks lol
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So they brought back old 4v4 maps?
I never liked Megaton much.
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On September 07 2012 10:54 dynwar7 wrote:
Wait, when they say tiers, it means divisions right? If not, then where can I see tiers?
Two divisions within a league are not necessarily equal. Some diamond leagues for instance were up to 400+ points higher than other diamond leagues. This meant saying you are a 800 point diamond league player meant very little because we had no way of determining the tier of your diamond league division.
Next season, all divisions within a league will be the same tier. This means saying you are an 800 point diamond player will have some limited value. It still won't be as useful as MMR, but it will be a means of comparing your rating to other diamond player ratings. Today, such a comparison is useless. The only way to compare two diamond players now is to see who their opponents are and how often they play plat or master players.
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After this change, climbing to (for example) Rank 2 Diamond will mean that you are in the top 2% of all Diamond players
how is this possible. If I was barley in diamond and I improved I would have more points than a near master diamond player who was just maintaining his skill, because who you are matched against is based on your MMR not your points? am I missing something?
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blizzard "we decided to remove a pointless and arbitrary system that no one really knew about"
thanks guys!
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We need at least the WCS version of the map on ladder. I would post about this on their forums but I can't figure out why and how to take off parental control.
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