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skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
September 07 2012 03:06 GMT
#101
On September 07 2012 12:03 dynwar7 wrote:
Thank you for the reply FClogan.

So basically divisions are the same as tiers?

Leagues have tiers, tiers have divisions.
Diamond have 7 tiers. Every tier have many divisions with max 100 people
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
September 07 2012 03:06 GMT
#102
More transparency in the ladder. Great news !
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WonDeRSC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States234 Posts
September 07 2012 03:09 GMT
#103
This is great! Hopefully will help me track my current MMR better, and motivate me to get to higher ranks because it actually has a significant meaning to it now.
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
September 07 2012 03:10 GMT
#104
Great improvement! Now at least rank wont be an entirely useless metric. Removing rocks from the 3rd on tal'darim! Thank god!
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Killerkrack
Profile Joined August 2010
664 Posts
September 07 2012 03:11 GMT
#105
So happy to hear about tier removal, I was always so confused about how close I was to promotion.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
September 07 2012 03:17 GMT
#106
they need to change the damn crappy 2v2 maps ):
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
September 07 2012 03:20 GMT
#107
On September 07 2012 11:39 Gamegene wrote:
i hope i don't have to see "rank 859" or something ridiculous like that.


I would much, much rather see "rank 7,127 / 20,326" comparing me to everyone else with the same league than a relatively meaningless number comparing me to 99 random people who placed into the same league as me at roughly the same time. It's great that they're removing division tiers, but now we're just going to get random divisions that are only representative of anything *on average*. Rank 2/100 diamond should mean you're in the 98th percentile of diamond players in your region, but unless they scrap the idea of divisions altogether, I don't see how Blizzard can make sure every division is a perfect bell curve that matches the MMR distribution of that league overall.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
September 07 2012 03:22 GMT
#108
TDA change is good, but no other map changes is disappointing .. guess they're focusing on HotS atm
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
September 07 2012 03:23 GMT
#109
Good change, next change the main profile page back to what it was previously so that we can actually see stats which are meaningful again.
Warzone
Profile Joined March 2012
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 03:33:07
September 07 2012 03:23 GMT
#110
Such a pathetic map pool. I really thought that Blizzard was starting to come along when they added Daybreak/Metropolis/etc., but it appears that the progress is less than I assumed.

How hard is it to make a map pool without ridiculous maps like Sharkuas/Condemned/Taldarim?

Not that hard...

-Ohana
-Cloud Kingdom
-Daybreak
-Metropolis
-Entombed

If they want more maps pick a few from ESV or GSL. Don't keep adding random imbalanced maps and/or forgetting to remove the carcasses of maps that nobody likes/uses anymore.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 07 2012 03:27 GMT
#111
It makes so much sense now ! But if I am reading this correctly they should prolly cap it off at 50 or so cos nobody wants be the last 99% of any league. Just having 50 or less would be kinder to the soul
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
September 07 2012 03:31 GMT
#112
this is great very easy to follow your progress and skill level
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
September 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#113
Wait, TDA is still in the pool? I literally haven't played on that map this season, and I don't have it vetoed even though I'm zerg haha
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 03:37:52
September 07 2012 03:37 GMT
#114
They need for fix the damn map pool. Shakuras, condemed and TDA should be out, Antiga should be cross spawn only and they could add Whirlind (awesome map) and maybe atlantis or metropolis.

Edit : Oh and something that denied cheesy play like triple pylon to block the cliff..
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
September 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#115
On September 07 2012 12:27 T0fuuu wrote:
It makes so much sense now ! But if I am reading this correctly they should prolly cap it off at 50 or so cos nobody wants be the last 99% of any league. Just having 50 or less would be kinder to the soul


Starcraft is not kind to the soul; tough shit. That sort of thinking is the reason we can't just see our MMR in the first place. Arg.
CT Legacy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States57 Posts
September 07 2012 03:52 GMT
#116
On September 07 2012 12:20 Iranon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 11:39 Gamegene wrote:
i hope i don't have to see "rank 859" or something ridiculous like that.


I would much, much rather see "rank 7,127 / 20,326" comparing me to everyone else with the same league than a relatively meaningless number comparing me to 99 random people who placed into the same league as me at roughly the same time. It's great that they're removing division tiers, but now we're just going to get random divisions that are only representative of anything *on average*. Rank 2/100 diamond should mean you're in the 98th percentile of diamond players in your region, but unless they scrap the idea of divisions altogether, I don't see how Blizzard can make sure every division is a perfect bell curve that matches the MMR distribution of that league overall.

sounds like what they are doing is removing the divisions all together..

you won't be seeing 859/1400 either.. you will just get a rank based on the percent of people you are ranked against. So if you are in the top 40% you will be rank 40. if you are low plat it will be plat. rank 90 or something like that. That's what I think it will be
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
September 07 2012 04:00 GMT
#117
good change. all that diamond league confusion bs finally gone
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Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
September 07 2012 04:00 GMT
#118
On September 07 2012 12:52 CT Legacy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 12:20 Iranon wrote:
On September 07 2012 11:39 Gamegene wrote:
i hope i don't have to see "rank 859" or something ridiculous like that.


I would much, much rather see "rank 7,127 / 20,326" comparing me to everyone else with the same league than a relatively meaningless number comparing me to 99 random people who placed into the same league as me at roughly the same time. It's great that they're removing division tiers, but now we're just going to get random divisions that are only representative of anything *on average*. Rank 2/100 diamond should mean you're in the 98th percentile of diamond players in your region, but unless they scrap the idea of divisions altogether, I don't see how Blizzard can make sure every division is a perfect bell curve that matches the MMR distribution of that league overall.

sounds like what they are doing is removing the divisions all together..

you won't be seeing 859/1400 either.. you will just get a rank based on the percent of people you are ranked against. So if you are in the top 40% you will be rank 40. if you are low plat it will be plat. rank 90 or something like that. That's what I think it will be


Ah, in that case that's fantastic, if the "ranks" are just placeholders for percentiles and not a ranking against a fixed group of 100 particular players. Finally, some real statistics below masters/GM!
Niyanyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico71 Posts
September 07 2012 04:01 GMT
#119
I have always loved Tal'Darim altar GSL version so this makes me very happy. I like that they did not move more of the 1v1 map pool, it allows for better gameplay in a competitive map pool (would love the return of Metropolis tho).
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
September 07 2012 04:05 GMT
#120
Blizzard is giving Zerg's free 3rds now. Because making zerglings before 8 mins is a sin.
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