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Flyingcookie
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany164 Posts
September 06 2012 19:22 GMT
#61
harmless for raab :F!


hehe i liked it
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 06 2012 19:29 GMT
#62
Crinchworthy at times, though it could have been a lot worse.

I wonder whether the German casters TaKe and NarutO would have presented the live commentary differently, had they known it would make national television. Same with HanFy and his winner's interview. In hindsight a real shame that HasuObs -- although heavily favored -- did not win the finals, as he would have been a lot more eloquent.

I hope that TaKe will indeed follow up on his intentions to e-mail the producers to paint a better picture and possibly be invited as a guest to the show to explain things better to the uninitiated audience.

The live casting was so much filled with English terms that one must wonder why casting in German is needed at all. But I guess that would inadvertently have us discuss how sloppy most Germans are when it comes to improving their English, this thread being just one showcase of it.

Anyways, good it actually got some airtime, even if it only was in the satire segment of the TV TOTAL show.
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Dubz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States242 Posts
September 06 2012 19:29 GMT
#63
can anyone translate?
" mefjupl: if this game was balanced and we would find two players with almost same skills, in mirror match there would be a draw each game"
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
September 06 2012 19:33 GMT
#64
On September 07 2012 04:29 Dubz wrote:
can anyone translate?


On September 07 2012 01:03 Prugelhugel wrote:
Ok, even though I don't think Stefan Raab is that funny, here is the rough translation (starting at 4:55):

----------------------------------
+ Show Spoiler +
At ZDF (comment: TV station) culture I've recently seen a report about a computer game.
Who plays Schtarkraft 2? *Looks at audience*
*repeats question*
*guy in the first row smiles and wants to raise his hand, girlfriend looks angry at him, he stops*
*repeats in english*
*audience is shaking heads*
Ok, nobody... so we can skip this part...?
Buuut, try to follow: There is a gaming show, a gaming magazin, named "for the win", where the german starkraft 2 championship is broadcastet. And the commentators are intruducing the finalists:
*clip starts*
*random girl is introducing TaKe*
*dennis is talking about how excited he is about the finals, an occuring underdog and how lucky HasuObs was that any Korean guy wasn't able to attend the finals because his visa ran out*
Yeah, bad luck if you forget to extend your visa because you are gambling that much.
*Audience laughs* (comment: Probably there's this blinking light which tells them to do so)
But now Hanfi is playing vs HasuObs.
In Starkraft 2 it is like Dortmund vs Bayern, essientally.
And the fight starts and now the tactic of HasuObs is analysed, by the commentators:
*Commentating with a lot of anglicisms*
*Commentator is surprised by forge before nexus*
*Audience laughing confused*
Ok... I'm maybe a bit old school but I would have gone Nexus first.
*He proceeds to remember the commentary*
Ok, we let an expert explain the tactic again.
*some random clip of a stuttering, impossible to understand, guy from a german TV show starts to talk random stuff*
Ok, got it?
And then it comes down to crazy duels and the commentators start to be excited as hell-
*Commentator starts to laugh about the dancing lings and jokes about Hasu bashing Hanfi with his keyboard if he would see it*
DANCINC LINGS FROM HANFI
*Clip of Joachim Löw saying: "That's nice, that's pretty nice"*
I'm excited, I'm totally excited, but I just don't know why.
The commentator is the Marcel Reif of the nerds, he's crazy like about the soccer world championship.
And this is putten to ZDF Culture, it needs to be on ZDF main at saturday 20:15.
Thus the older viewers would get something out of their TV evening.
And now there is the thrilling decision. It's getting dramatic.
*Clip about HasuObs blinkfailing into a loss*
*Audience is laughing because they don't understand why the commentators are excited*
Yeah, madness (comment: in a positive sense), isn't it?
*Audience is told again to clap hands and laugh*
What a final.
I've seen a lot Schtarkraft 2 finals, but that's the best Schtarkraft 2 finals I've ever seen.
38 Lings on the minimap, 1400 minerals and everything full of microbugs....
I have the feeling like these people will rule the world soon.
Ok, again, for beginners:
You open your computer, if you have a laptop, otherwise the plate is infront of you anyways, that's the computer. Beneath it is the mouse, with which you can move a cursor. (Comment: wtf is he talking, what's his point?) And then you doubleclick the symbol. And after that everything works on it's own.
*jokingly* Ok, I will attend the next finals, which is public viewing btw.
So Hanfi won and answers the questions of the moderators after the finals:
*Clip about a guy asking him how he prepared against HasuObs especially*
*Hanfi answers with: "Yeah, I played what I played everytime... And then I won"*
As a sidenote, it's the first time since 8 years that he is speaking with people. With real people.
*Guy looking like Bart Simpson with 40 years is shown on camera laughing*
The 1. FC Köln is doing it vice versa. They are playing what they are playing everytime... But they lose.
A fascinating insight into the spiritual world of a mastermind, Hanfi.
And now Hanfi is talking about his future plans, what shall he do now?
*Another clip about Hanfi stating that he wanted to stop playing after it but didn't know he would get that far*
*And Hanfi talking about how much time Starcraft requires and that he would like to do something different, like flying to Australia for a year to work'n'travel*
But not from Berlin, hahaha.
It doesn't look like it's that much fun.
*crying* I would like to do something different, I can't play Schtarkraft all the time
*getting serious* But that's something he should have thought about before he got the defense upgrade for his forcefield and flashed HasuObs with a dance-ling.
I had to watch one episode of "Mitten im Leben" (comment: Some stupid "reality" TV show) after that to see normal people.

Ending at 13:50


---------------------------------------------
Excuse any occuring errors

tl,dr:
He made fun about the commentators being that excited and about Hanfi yelling how time intensive SC is.

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Jutranjo
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia140 Posts
September 06 2012 19:34 GMT
#65
I can speak German, I remember this TV show from like 10 years ago? I saw it every so often on RTL 1/2 or something. Also watched the first 5 minutes before the starcraft and yeah the show is pretty much what I remember it to be. Compared to what he usually does the stuff this was actually all right. I even laughed at the "call me old fashioned but I prefer nexus first". Rest of it made me cringe but so did the shit before the starcraft bit. I did start holding my head when they started showing live footage of Take and in game thinking "why am I watching this" because he's just gonna tear it a new one. Then I was surprised when he didn't :o
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 19:42:50
September 06 2012 19:41 GMT
#66
Take did so much for the community. It's a shame that Raab tried to ridicule it.

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ClanRH.TV
Profile Joined July 2010
United States462 Posts
September 06 2012 19:48 GMT
#67
Anyone down to throw some subtitles in english on that there video?
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bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
September 06 2012 20:01 GMT
#68
Wow a pretty big segment. TV total used to be pretty big here.
Good publicity in my opinion.
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
September 06 2012 20:07 GMT
#69
haha, pretty funny.
I think it was definitely not too bad. If you watch his show more often he sometimes bashes things really hard.
i think the take interview and the passion they showed ingame will cast a positive light on sc2. :D
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perser84
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany399 Posts
September 06 2012 20:18 GMT
#70
it was allright stefan raab would played nexus first anyway intead of forge first

surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
September 06 2012 20:21 GMT
#71
TV Total, biggest shit on German television and that says quite a lot.
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KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
September 06 2012 20:25 GMT
#72
Whenever something like this gets on TV, I try and see it from an outsiders point of view. I mean just think about it, this must sound so damn funny, knowing the guy is actually speaking your language but you have no freaking clue what he's actually talking about. Also Hanfi seemed so down about his win, wth is up with that^^
I found it damn funny, I like Raab in general. Laughed quite hard at some points
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Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 20:56:49
September 06 2012 20:56 GMT
#73
TV Total is just a tool to catch personel data, like facebook.
He tested a few thing with the live audience, like how well they know it, how interessting it is to watch for the targed group, etc.
He did'nt realy talk bad about the game or the esport scene in generell, what normally is his daily bread & butter.

They (TVTotal/Pro Sieben [channel]] just did a market research on "how well is starcraft/esport known in the target group"

sadly, not a single person raised his/her hand
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SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 23:58:48
September 06 2012 23:56 GMT
#74
On September 07 2012 04:29 Proseat wrote:
I wonder whether the German casters TaKe and NarutO would have presented the live commentary differently, had they known it would make national television.

(...)

The live casting was so much filled with English terms that one must wonder why casting in German is needed at all. But I guess that would inadvertently have us discuss how sloppy most Germans are when it comes to improving their English, this thread being just one showcase of it.


They knew it would air on ZDFKultur. But it was the same commentary like on the ESL TV German stream.

Language: Starcraft 2 is a game that is communicated and learnt in English, thus it's not surprising that people use English terms even when casting in German. Kids are often comfortable using English terms but are uncomfortable listening to full English sentences. Using German names puts you into the newbie corner, sounds weird for guys used to English names and is hard for the casters - because they obviously communicate with others about SC2 in English as well. As far as I know, no scene uses the localized names much except the Koreans and Chinese (Russians?). I understand how some people don't like (pseudo) English words mixed in, but it is a pretty natural development in SC2.

Also, I like the style of German casts more - because they have actual players in it. And nobody acts like he is the next YouTube/Twitch superstar.


Same with HanFy and his winner's interview. In hindsight a real shame that HasuObs -- although heavily favored -- did not win the finals, as he would have been a lot more eloquent.


And the clip would probably not have been shown at all. Hanfy didn't give terrible answers (e.g. he wants to participate in Work&Travel in Australia, not the answer of some nerd that wants to go back to his basement), he just had a whiny voice mixed with a Hessian (?) accent.


I hope that TaKe will indeed follow up on his intentions to e-mail the producers to paint a better picture and possibly be invited as a guest to the show to explain things better to the uninitiated audience.


Yeah, I think many people that were made fun of would love to be invited to the show - and it never happens. It was just some filler content, nothing more. Makes some people aware of the stuff and everybody else already has forgotten it.
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
September 07 2012 00:03 GMT
#75
I dont think its good publicity if they are making fun of us. Ill have to watch it myself though, maybe i can transkate it, if it isnt already
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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
September 07 2012 00:08 GMT
#76
I don't know German, but this guy sounds like he has Jon Stewart type humor where he makes fun of things without context or that he doesn't understand. Anyway, I doubt this would drive anyone away from getting into SC2.
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
September 07 2012 00:31 GMT
#77
What i found funny is that no one in the audience (aged around 20 - 25 years) admitted to knowing starcraft :p

Honestly i find that hard to believe, they might not be the avid gamers (though Raab has a huge fanbase among young people in general) but if I did a random survey among students you can bet 1 out of 10 would at least know what starcraft is or was.
KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
September 07 2012 21:48 GMT
#78
On September 07 2012 09:31 Tula wrote:
What i found funny is that no one in the audience (aged around 20 - 25 years) admitted to knowing starcraft :p

Honestly i find that hard to believe, they might not be the avid gamers (though Raab has a huge fanbase among young people in general) but if I did a random survey among students you can bet 1 out of 10 would at least know what starcraft is or was.


yea well they weren't going to admit being nerds among the "cool" kids^^
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Khi
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany188 Posts
September 07 2012 22:09 GMT
#79
Btw there was 1 guy who raised his hand for like two seconds then put it back after he realised he was the only one :D
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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 23:05:24
September 09 2012 23:05 GMT
#80
Yeah, I guess it was alright, from an outsider's point of view it's actually more making fun of the fact that our "language" is undecipherable to anyone outside the scene. Not the biggest laugh on my life, but hey, it's exposure for SC2 on national television, and no one was insulted.

And damn, that Hanfy kid really is depressed :o
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