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Cinquedea
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada144 Posts
August 29 2012 03:28 GMT
#21
We got WCG. It's all good.
Too strange to live, too rare to die.
DangerAl
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia88 Posts
August 29 2012 03:30 GMT
#22
In addition to the issues already raised by posters, I feel the inclusion of esports in the olympics would almost be as silly as the inclusion of tennis. For esports, or at least for SC2, the pro scene is well established and already features so many prestigious tournaments that an olympic tournament would not be particularly special.
Rent-A-Hero
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States137 Posts
August 29 2012 03:31 GMT
#23
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/1310-game-or-sport

Maybe that corner is right around the corner...
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 29 2012 03:31 GMT
#24
On August 29 2012 12:27 Iodem wrote:
I'll be honest that I only want to see this happen to see how the North Koreans compare to their Southern counterparts in Starcraft.

Otherwise, I'd say no. The rules aren't stable enough, SC2's rules aren't set in stone yet, and we've still got two more expansions to go before that. As for LoL... don't they come out with a new hero practically every week or something? I haven't played it in almost two years. Maybe a better solution would be to make older games olympic sports. Brood War, for example. The rules and balances to BW are set, and are extremely unlikely of changing. Tetris and Street Fighter 2 also come to mind. Just keep it to games that aren't ever going to change.


They just started eating pizza and wearing pants. I feel like they are not comparable.
flyingteapot
Profile Joined August 2011
United States11 Posts
August 29 2012 03:31 GMT
#25
I would love to see e-Sports go so far as the olympics I don't think it will happen but if there was like an e-Sports Olympics every two years or something that would be pretty cool :D
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 29 2012 03:32 GMT
#26
On August 29 2012 12:30 DangerAl wrote:
In addition to the issues already raised by posters, I feel the inclusion of esports in the olympics would almost be as silly as the inclusion of tennis. For esports, or at least for SC2, the pro scene is well established and already features so many prestigious tournaments that an olympic tournament would not be particularly special.

The olympics are always special dude.. it is the best of the best in every sport. Andy Murray was happy as hell to win and so were the Williams sisters. Hockey has the stanley cup and still battle it out for gold and give it their all.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 03:44:28
August 29 2012 03:36 GMT
#27
On August 29 2012 12:30 DangerAl wrote:
In addition to the issues already raised by posters, I feel the inclusion of esports in the olympics would almost be as silly as the inclusion of tennis. For esports, or at least for SC2, the pro scene is well established and already features so many prestigious tournaments that an olympic tournament would not be particularly special.

Why do you think Tennis's inclusion is silly? Tennis is a very physical sport with a worldwide set of players and audience. It's a no-brainer that it's included in the Olympics.

Not to mention a much bigger pro scene. Progamers WISH they got paid as much as professional tennis players.

As someone who played Varsity in High School, I feel kind of offended by this comment.
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theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 03:37:23
August 29 2012 03:37 GMT
#28
Not in our lifetimes. Rightfully so.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
August 29 2012 03:37 GMT
#29
The last time someone made an OP about this, the thread got closed pretty fast. Kind of silly if you ask me. The problem is for me is that I can't consider the format of starcraft a sport. Sporting is a better word. Not because it's a mental sport or anything stupid like that, but because it is not symetrical. To be a sport for me, both players would have to either rotate the races or play mirror matches. In a really horrible horrible metaphor, starcraft is like one side gets to play the game as soccer, while the other side some plays as hockey, and they both try to shoot goals into the net. No matter what, it can't be balanced truly, and therefore competitive purism can't be reachd. I can see it working for counterstrike, but a lot of other formats that do not have symatry just don't seem to work for me.

You can make the argument that athletes bodys are not symetrical, that is only analogous to the players mind and hands, not to the format or the tools of the game.

Also posting this a little drunk, sorry for poor spacing and unseen grammatical errors ect
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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
August 29 2012 03:38 GMT
#30
I think that esports in the olympics breaks the tradition, but well see how the olympics looks at innovating their event and keeping up with modernization.

also, sports such as action sports havent been accepted into the olympics so they pretty much has just been doing the same thing that starcraft is doing, creating their own championships and catering to their community
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
August 29 2012 03:39 GMT
#31
On August 29 2012 12:30 DangerAl wrote:
In addition to the issues already raised by posters, I feel the inclusion of esports in the olympics would almost be as silly as the inclusion of tennis. For esports, or at least for SC2, the pro scene is well established and already features so many prestigious tournaments that an olympic tournament would not be particularly special.


Disagree on the tennis front. A once-every-four-years event that is full of the best competition is meaningful for every and all participants. Serena Williams, the winningest women's tennis athlete in history, spoke many times on how important it was to her to try and get a gold medal, the one accolade she didn't have. Its important.

Now does eSports belong - I'm inclined to say no. I consider the Olympics to be athletics and eSports isn't athletics.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
August 29 2012 03:47 GMT
#32
If you let esports in then next step is chess and poker to (and one could argue that they should get there first). Esports does not belong in the Olympics, it should have it's own federation and it's own official and unique event.
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Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
August 29 2012 03:59 GMT
#33
On August 29 2012 12:47 Marou wrote:
If you let esports in then next step is chess and poker to (and one could argue that they should get there first). Esports does not belong in the Olympics, it should have it's own federation and it's own official and unique event.


Isn't SC2 more physical than chess and poker? It's not like you're sitting around thinking until you take your turn in SC2. I know you have to keep your face on all game in poker but doesn't that fall short to hiding your tech choice in SC2 while maintaining 300 apm?
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Ace1123
Profile Joined September 2011
Philippines1187 Posts
August 29 2012 04:05 GMT
#34
I think it's hard to bring E-sports to olympics. So the key is Just to Make WCG an Olympic type of event. And make it as prestigious
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 29 2012 04:12 GMT
#35
On August 29 2012 09:44 DKR wrote:
I didn't make this, just stumbled across it and searches for Torch for gaming and olympic SC2 yielded nothing so here goes:

http://torchforgaming.org/

Whilst it's unlikely to really go anywhere IMO it's a nice gesture and the idea of Olympic level exposure is very appealing to people.

I discovered this in this forbes article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/08/15/league-of-legends-and-starcraft-ii-could-become-olympic-sports-as-early-as-2020-summer-games/



By 2020 I expect most of us to be playing a different RTS altogether.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
August 29 2012 04:14 GMT
#36
If any "less-physical" event was brought into the olympics (such as poker, chess, sc2)... It would be not-very-well received and take a lot of hate for that reason. So I don't think it would be a very good idea.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 04:16:26
August 29 2012 04:15 GMT
#37
there was a thread on this...with shit load of pages...during the olympics.
on a side note, i believe heritage is also an important factor. just by that alone esport does not qualify.
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 04:16:36
August 29 2012 04:15 GMT
#38
On August 29 2012 13:12 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 09:44 DKR wrote:
I didn't make this, just stumbled across it and searches for Torch for gaming and olympic SC2 yielded nothing so here goes:

http://torchforgaming.org/

Whilst it's unlikely to really go anywhere IMO it's a nice gesture and the idea of Olympic level exposure is very appealing to people.

I discovered this in this forbes article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2012/08/15/league-of-legends-and-starcraft-ii-could-become-olympic-sports-as-early-as-2020-summer-games/



By 2020 I expect most of us to be playing a different RTS altogether.


That's what they were saying in 1999 a while after Starcraft came out. Its now like almost 14 years after the original Starcraft was released? And what forum are we in right now?
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 29 2012 04:20 GMT
#39
Yea uh.. I mean I've been a big Starcraft fan for a long time now, but I really don't feel Starcraft fits in with the Olympics, which is a sentiment quite a few other people seem to also feel in this thread.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
August 29 2012 04:20 GMT
#40
Computer games in Olympics?
Hell no...
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
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