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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44584 Posts
On August 28 2012 12:32 TommyP wrote: 4:10 MC's take on how Kespa players switching over with affect him and other top players. "I'm not worried because I'm a champion." What a fucking Boss(Toss). When I saw Best vs. MC in my Liquibets, I nearly came. Sooo glad this is still happening ♥ Best may not be amazing at SC2 at the moment, but I still love SKT ^^ | ||
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
On August 28 2012 12:11 0neder wrote: A Kespa A-teamer automatically has at least some legitimacy in SC2 until he indicates that he doesn't deserve it. How about this? NOBODY has ANY legitimacy in SC2 until he indicates that he does deserve it. When a guy gets round of 8 twice in gsl, and come second at an MLG, then he has, let's say the legitimacy of Naniwa. So far no kespa player has come close to that. | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:00 Luepert wrote: How about this? NOBODY has ANY legitimacy in SC2 until he indicates that he does deserve it. When a guy gets round of 8 twice in gsl, and come second at an MLG, then he has, let's say the legitimacy of Naniwa. So far no kespa player has come close to that. good thing kespa players have played in every single mlg and gsl to date wait.......... Pretty bad statement to make man. Something to be said after a few gsls and mlgs when kespa players have played in them | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:35 StorrZerg wrote: good thing kespa players have played in every single mlg and gsl to date wait.......... Pretty bad statement to make man. Something to be said after a few gsls and mlgs when kespa players have played in them How is him saying that people have to earn legitimacy a bad statement? | ||
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:00 Luepert wrote: How about this? NOBODY has ANY legitimacy in SC2 until he indicates that he does deserve it. When a guy gets round of 8 twice in gsl, and come second at an MLG, then he has, let's say the legitimacy of Naniwa. So far no kespa player has come close to that. and so far no kespa player has received the numerous GSL seeds/handouts that naniwa copped. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On August 28 2012 15:43 bo1b wrote: How is him saying that people have to earn legitimacy a bad statement? Because his idea of earning it is disrespectful towards the Kespa pros. These guys have earned legitimacy through BW already and it counts. Of course a newbie to the scene might not understand that but he should simply remain silent then. Ignorance is not something to brag about. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 28 2012 16:16 Squeegy wrote: Because his idea of earning it is disrespectful towards the Kespa pros. These guys have earned legitimacy through BW already and it counts. Of course a newbie to the scene might not understand that but he should simply remain silent then. Ignorance is not something to brag about. Just read through this whole thread and it's crazy at the ignorance lol xD | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On August 28 2012 18:36 Adreme wrote: If there was a good reason for Kespa to to keep its players out it could be fear of the GSL maps. The Kespa players who get picked for GSL and even ones who qualify are going to have to quickly learn a bunch of maps that they probably havnt been practicing and they are going to have to learn them quick because it is almost a 100% chance that any code S player who gets a mapchoice will pick a map like Atlantis Spaceship or Whirlwind. The Kespa players have been learning to play new maps in BW for ages. With a well-oiled pro-team behind you, I can't imagine that a new map is really a big hurdle. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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zazone
Romania460 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:55 a176 wrote: this thread has pretty much illustrated that many players new to the scene, through sc2, really have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to kespa, its players, and leagues. they should just shut the fuck up but they keep mumbling nonsenses. User was warned for this post | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On August 28 2012 19:03 zazone wrote: Will the experts then elaborate on the issue?they should just shut the fuck up but they keep mumbling nonsenses. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:00 Luepert wrote: How about this? NOBODY has ANY legitimacy in SC2 until he indicates that he does deserve it. When a guy gets round of 8 twice in gsl, and come second at an MLG, then he has, let's say the legitimacy of Naniwa. So far no kespa player has come close to that. Please don't be such a bigot. The seeds for Kespa players are an act of good will and sign of respect. Even if it is only for the story line, we should be thankful for this handfull of seeds. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1599 Posts
On August 28 2012 20:55 [F_]aths wrote: Please don't be such a bigot. The seeds for Kespa players are an act of good will and sign of respect. Even if it is only for the story line, we should be thankful for this handfull of seeds. I don't get why everyone is arguing about the subtleties of GOM and KESPA working together and who is better than who. I will flat out tell you, go watch the WCS matches, if you know what to look for you can see that even in the games where the KESPA players lose, the matches are close, because KESPA players know how to RTS. They do the proper things like continually scout, always attempt to do something with their units that has minimal risk for high rewards, macro like no other, actually defend properly, and make educated decisions. Their losses are just on unfamiliarity with game when matched up against someone who has been playing for 2 years. All the other small shit though doesn't stack up to much, and really shouldn't have that much time spent on it. Also the reason why I came here. Does anyone else think that Blizzard was the reason why these two companies got along? I mean nothing changed other than ESF pulled their players (which I don't really think affected KESPA too much). I think they could have found some more BW pros. I don't really understand why this has worked out so quickly. And if Blizzard is involved I think it is for selfish reasons same as KESPA. They want to force tournaments to switch ASAP when they release the new title, as to force the viewer to buy their 1/3 of a game (game is in 3 parts). | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50362 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
On August 28 2012 22:46 NoobSkills wrote: I don't get why everyone is arguing about the subtleties of GOM and KESPA working together and who is better than who. I will flat out tell you, go watch the WCS matches, if you know what to look for you can see that even in the games where the KESPA players lose, the matches are close, because KESPA players know how to RTS. They do the proper things like continually scout, always attempt to do something with their units that has minimal risk for high rewards, macro like no other, actually defend properly, and make educated decisions. Their losses are just on unfamiliarity with game when matched up against someone who has been playing for 2 years. All the other small shit though doesn't stack up to much, and really shouldn't have that much time spent on it. Also the reason why I came here. Does anyone else think that Blizzard was the reason why these two companies got along? I mean nothing changed other than ESF pulled their players (which I don't really think affected KESPA too much). I think they could have found some more BW pros. I don't really understand why this has worked out so quickly. And if Blizzard is involved I think it is for selfish reasons same as KESPA. They want to force tournaments to switch ASAP when they release the new title, as to force the viewer to buy their 1/3 of a game (game is in 3 parts). Yeah I think blizzard stepped in. They've done it before with gom. I think they are trying to keep done power. | ||
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