Mineral boost trick (works in 1.5!) - Page 10

On August 15 2012 06:57 LavaLava wrote:
Oh my god, what if we could beat the 1 second supply block before the first depot finishes?

On August 15 2012 07:00 Soze wrote:
You can use the same technique with the command center rallies.

On August 15 2012 06:55 castlewise wrote:
Everyone says this is "impossible to fix" but it seems like you could just make units stop at each waypoint for 0 seconds. Then you get acceleration/deceleration on either side of the waypoint and this trick doesn't work anymore. Would adding deceleration/acceleration at waypoints break some other part of the game?

On August 15 2012 06:55 castlewise wrote:
Everyone says this is "impossible to fix" but it seems like you could just make units stop at each waypoint for 0 seconds. Then you get acceleration/deceleration on either side of the waypoint and this trick doesn't work anymore. Would adding deceleration/acceleration at waypoints break some other part of the game?

On August 15 2012 06:52 TheWisp wrote:

Sadly even with the trick, a MULE can never gather for 10 full trips. Mostlikely it will only gather 30 more mineral but wasted ( rather than not gathered )

On August 15 2012 07:05 TitleRug wrote:

Actually it is possible now with this trick. It took me five or more tries, but I finally got a MULE to get all 10 trips barely. You have to do the trick when it moves towards the minerals and than also when it moves to the orbital command. It only works on close mineral patches as far as I can tell.

On August 15 2012 07:08 TheWisp wrote:

By the time the player has Mule, it doesn't really matter anymore. Any slight mistake is far bigger than this advantage.
but first depo / rax timing is too important

On August 15 2012 07:01 c0ldfusion wrote:


Good idea. Gives it that initial kick.

On August 15 2012 07:06 thezanursic wrote:
REPOST: because I edited with further information assuming you 1 raxx expand I calculated that with minor error if you micro 6 workers you can put down an extra raxx at 3:35 when the CC is supposed to go down (If 5 workers are micro'd perfectly and 6 with minor error) 192M extra if 6 and 160M if 5 at 3:35 (no errors) 3:35 IS THE 1 RAXX CC TIMING!!!

TERRAN:

12 supply= 1:30 = 5 worker micro= 100

When the first supply depot is finished you usually have 80 minerals if you micro at least 4 workers you have 150 and you can put down your raxx 6-7 FUKING SECONDS SOONER!!!

Now further more a Terran usually scouts at 2:05 14 supply so nothing to do before that you have at least 2 minutes to only micro and build a supply/raxx that's 100 minerals for 5 SCVs and 120 for 6 (I'm assuming this is about how much could be managed) and your CC is down at 3:35 now let's assume that you scout your opponent on the last try (or you don't have to micro it much only patrol which doesn't occupy APM)

3:35 that is around the time CC should go down. Soo assuming that you don't micro each SCV will bring in 140 minerals by the time. If SCVs are micro'd they would bring in about 172 minerals. Soo let's assume that we can only gain 28 extra minerals for each SCV (errors) and we do that for 5 SCVs you receive a bonus of 140 if you do that for 6 you get an extra of 168 now.

168 minerals is an extra raxx you could theoretically pull of the same build order, but add another raxx a couple of seconds before expanding or right just so the first marine starts after the CC (If you did it with more or you wouldn't account my errors.

Soo if you were really good you could have put down a CC and a raxx both at 3:35 and still be even with the other guy doing the same build order (You could put it down earlier, but everything would need to be recalculated because of the mining time lost)

If I made a big a error please correct and comment.


PEOPLE THIS IS FUCKING HUGE DON'T MAKE IT OUT TO BE NOTHING. 2 RAXX CC (CC and raxx are simulatinous) IS NOW = NO MICRO 1 RAXX CC

On August 15 2012 07:12 BigJoe wrote:
I wonder how this would change gas first openings if you micro'd your workers for gas

On August 15 2012 07:13 TheWisp wrote:

It works on gas as well as mineral.
but since 3 workers saturate the gas, why bother microing it ?