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Avilo.
Ghost Design Change Concern for HOTS - Page 2
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Medrea
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Complain about balance anyway. Avilo. | ||
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Berceno
Spain401 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
Do people want HOTS to be the best game possible? I certainly do, and yes, nothing is in stone, that does not mean it's not worth it to add in feedback/community feedback on things that will make the game better. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
So why even complain about a unit changing without having played the game? Anyone can easily make a thread about how Battle Hellions can shred tons and tons of Zealots or any one of a million things but that would just shit up the forums. | ||
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wwowz
Canada156 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10382 Posts
Anyways, you're right. While nuking lategame at this point of time might be too efficient when done well (you can even do a fake nuke into nowhere just to make your opponent panic, waste time looking at his bases/army, and possibly even pull off his workers which, if he does for a few seconds, will make up for the cost of the nuke), I don't think this is the right way to change it. If what they are actually trying to get at is to prevent mass nuking all over the map, they shouldn't change cloak, they should change the nuke directly (cooldown on that, not cloak). Though of course, terran lategame is already commonly known to be not as strong as the other races, so if they take away more terran lategame power by nerfing the ability to harass with ghosts/nukes, terran would need something else to compensate. Also it simply does not feel like a starcraft kind of spell. We've all been used to the classic cloak for a long time now, and remember their philosophy? Keep things simple! But now they propose to make 2 different kinds of cloaks? | ||
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RUFinalBoss
United States266 Posts
Avilo: in the 30 seconds of cloak does enerygy regan back to 200? | ||
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
Sigh. | ||
Falling
Canada11603 Posts
It seems a very dumb design change, but framing it as a balance debate starts the argument at such an unhelpful note. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Blizzard plays around with all manner of dumb ideas during development. | ||
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Wolvmatt.
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:12 RUFinalBoss wrote: guys the BM is completly uneccesary he brought up a good point Avilo: in the 30 seconds of cloak does enerygy regan back to 200? As I wrote in the OP, yes. Blizzard intends that after initially using 25 to cloak the ghost will begin to regain energy back up to 200. | ||
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pingy[wen]
United States157 Posts
thanks avilo for potentially finding an unintended flaw. | ||
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:10 avilo wrote: I'd request the mods when they read this to ban the idiots that are posting below TL standards with their "fuck off" or "QQ" or "whine" I'd urge people to actually read the thread. If thorzain, jinro, or anyone else notable posted this you would not write it off before reading it. Do people want HOTS to be the best game possible? I certainly do, and yes, nothing is in stone, that does not mean it's not worth it to add in feedback/community feedback on things that will make the game better. We would still write it off because it is pure speculation. I don't mind the change, I believe that David Kim knows a lot more about the game balance than I do, and I hope he manages to keep the game as well balanced as it is. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:12 Falling wrote: Did this have to be framed as a balance concern? It seems a very dumb design change, but framing it as a balance debate starts the argument at such an unhelpful note. It's a pretty big change that people are unaware of, it's a hybrid design concern/balance concern to be honest. I honestly don't think changing the thread title will help against the bandwagon posters that see it's I that posted these concerns. The people posting like that simply should not post at all tbh or actually post up to TL standards and read the thread before posting. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
Thanks for putting some light on this Avilo. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:12 Falling wrote: Did this have to be framed as a balance concern? It seems a very dumb design change, but framing it as a balance debate starts the argument at such an unhelpful note. It's okay, all the races got buffs and nerfs. Terran got buffed with the spider mine, zerg got nerfed since I believe the overseer is gone, etc. etc. -_- Complaining about balance in a game that hasn't even been played is laughable. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On July 28 2012 05:14 shabby wrote: We would still write it off because it is pure speculation. I don't mind the change, I believe that David Kim knows a lot more about the game balance than I do, and I hope he manages to keep the game as well balanced as it is. If you read the OP, you'd see it's not just pure speculation. I have played the beta at anaheim briefly, and regardless of how close or far the HOTS beta custom map is to the beta, it does have the proposed change on the map which was tested in an actual game. So no, do not write this off at all. It's a big concern. If a mod feels like people will post better by changing the title of the thread to "Terran ghost design change concern for HOTS" please do. | ||
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