I think it's most fair if everyone has the same models and colours. Customization is bad for fair competition imo. I hated WoW PvP most for the amount of retarded add-ons you had to have to be maximum efficient.

It's probably bad for people who have difficulties seeing colours (assuming stronger team colours help them at all), but then Blizz should make a universal official colour blind version, that is easily accessable and the same for everyone.

Yeah, and changing background picture... I don't care about at all.

edit: Would it be possible to use MPQ editing to make invisible units stand out more? If that's possible, all the more reason forbid it.

Lumi

United States1616 Posts

July 26 2012 23:46 GMT

#25

On July 27 2012 08:44 SeraKuDA wrote:

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Probably, because it's still not a big deal.

So, having put yourself in the place of the people to whom it i s the biggest deal for, you're saying that it's still not really a big deal for anyone? I don't think you're making this judgement based off of other peoples opinions at all.

Teliko

Ireland1044 Posts

July 26 2012 23:47 GMT

#26

On July 27 2012 08:41 SeraKuDA wrote:
Eh... Mods aren't a huge deal to lose. I think it's only a small percentage of people that use them.

That percentage is still in the hundreds of thousands of people. Reducing their entertainment value for no benefit in return doesn't seem very fair.

Cascade

Australia5405 Posts

July 26 2012 23:48 GMT

#27

The stronger team colours is really a pity if it has to go. Great mod.

For the other ones, I don't really feel sorry for anyone to not use their own backgrounds or customised whatever etc

But if this can help even a little bit against the hackers, then I'd say the stronger team colours have to take one for the team. Would prefer this to have the angle "Please blizz, implement a stronger team colours option" instead. glgl.

Antylamon

United States1981 Posts

July 26 2012 23:48 GMT

#28

On July 27 2012 08:46 Dyme wrote:
I think it's most fair if everyone has the same models and colours. Customization is bad for fair competition imo. I hated WoW PvP most for the amount of retarded add-ons you had to have to be maximum efficient.

It's probably bad for people who have difficulties seeing colours (assuming stronger team colours help them at all), but then Blizz should make a universal official colour blind version, that is easily accessable and the same for everyone.

Yea, and changing background picture... I don't care about at all.

The main reason I don't like what Blizz is doing is because I am obsessed with BW voice swap.

I never even played BW very much, but they still left a much larger mark than SC2 sounds did.

Wroshe

Netherlands1051 Posts

July 26 2012 23:49 GMT

#29

Honestly I'm glad about this. Stronger Color Mod in streams is a pain in eye but surely there must have been easier ways to get rid of it.

Lumi

United States1616 Posts

July 26 2012 23:50 GMT

#30

You're comparing apples to oranges. Also, and I don't mean to offend, but you sound lazy. Add-ons for wow were really easy to install and it's a one time thing for a game that you play for a ton of hours. While I'll agree in disliking the ones that generally baby'd the game down, many were positive. I don't think there were really any lame ones for PVP. It sounds like you're just complaining about the effort, which is minimal.

Also, it is "universally available" and the same for everyone who wants it. Downloading from one spot on the internet to another isn't a big deal. And a complaint about the difficulty in implementing it now (which really is minor) as compared to if it were to be offered up more easily from Blizzard isn't a justification for having it all removed over fairness or whatever.

Probe1

United States17920 Posts

July 26 2012 23:51 GMT

#31

You should really post this on reddit. It's better oriented for utilizing a crowd.

imre

France9263 Posts

July 26 2012 23:51 GMT

#32

On July 27 2012 08:49 Wroshe wrote:
Honestly I'm glad about this. Stronger Color Mod in streams is a pain in eye but surely there must have been easier ways to get rid of it.

*honnestly i'm glad that color blind ppl don't have a way to play/stream/commentate the game.

WTH /w some ppl on TL sometimes...

Teliko

Ireland1044 Posts

July 26 2012 23:51 GMT

#33

Links to info on each mod added to OP by request.

On July 27 2012 08:45 Antylamon wrote:

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Can you clarify, please?

Maphacks and drophacks don't rely on the usage of modifying MPQ archive data to function.

Chargelot

2275 Posts

July 26 2012 23:52 GMT

#34

On July 27 2012 08:45 Antylamon wrote:

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Can you clarify, please?

Hacks don't modify MPQ files. Most of the successful hacks are what are referred to as "external". If they edited the MPQ files, Warden would tear them a new one within seconds.

Parcelleus

Australia1662 Posts

July 26 2012 23:53 GMT

#35

Signed up !

Please Blizzard, dont ruin this modding ability !!!!!!!!!

Teliko

Ireland1044 Posts

July 26 2012 23:54 GMT

#36

On July 27 2012 08:51 Probe1 wrote:
You should really post this on reddit. It's better oriented for utilizing a crowd.

Done

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/x7wb9/mpq_modding_shutdown_petition/

Doomblaze

United States1292 Posts

July 26 2012 23:56 GMT

#37

On July 27 2012 08:45 Antylamon wrote:

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Can you clarify, please?

Hackers will always find a way around whatever blizzard puts in their path. Its a neverending battle, especially since warden obviously doesnt help. Hackers will find a way around this too, if it even stops them in the first place (I know nothing about how sc2 hacks function).

Antylamon

United States1981 Posts

July 26 2012 23:56 GMT

#38

After a minute of thinking about it, it's still worth it if Blizz carries this through. The immediate shock (a bit too extreme of a word, but w/e) of finding this out brought out more of an emotional reaction than a logical one.

However this ends up, I'll be fine with it even if it means losing my beautiful Brood War sound edit.

CajunMan

United States823 Posts

July 26 2012 23:56 GMT

#39

What pisses me off is all of this mods are very easy for Blizzard to implement on there own and everyone would love them for it but no that would never happen.

bokchoi

Korea (South)9498 Posts

July 26 2012 23:58 GMT

#40

The problem is a lot of these things stronger team color, model mods, etc. can give an unfair advantage to those using it. Makes units more clear, stand out, etc. These are not intended features and should be done away with. The fact that a majority of hacks come from this same exact file modification is also a concern. Although, the custom logins, and backgrounds are kind of cool, its a necessary sacrifice to get where we need to be.