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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:28 trbot wrote: Red-green colourblind people like me are already pissed enough about the use of red and green to differentiate good and bad. I can't see the friggin' building placement grid properly... I can't see the friggin' tiny red nuke dots since I can't differentiate between the green ground and the red dot... Friend and foe colour schemes make all units look the same to me, which makes team games with a large number of players frustrating. How much more pissed am I going to be when I can't use any mods to change any of this? How pissed do you think I should be? How about just accepting that you're going to have problems with a game that demands basic skills that you don't have? User was warned for this post | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:27 Toorgr wrote: So they only reason you're against the change is because you want your colour mod and custom backgrounds? That sounds weak to me, I guess colour mod makes sense for colorblinds, and even then I'm not sure.. If you have a reason you're for the change when it won't effect maphackers, I'm happy to hear it. | ||
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-Kyo-
Japan1926 Posts
On July 27 2012 08:58 bokchoi wrote: The problem is a lot of these things stronger team color, model mods, etc. can give an unfair advantage to those using it. Makes units more clear, stand out, etc. These are not intended features and should be done away with. The fact that a majority of hacks come from this same exact file modification is also a concern. Although, the custom logins, and backgrounds are kind of cool, its a necessary sacrifice to get where we need to be. Yeah, that makes no sense. STC only applies to what you see on your main screen. If there was something like 2x double minimap size colors with red arrows pointing at enemy units then I'd totally agree. However, STC only enhances what you already see just to reduce the strain you have during something like team games, or from a spectator point of view. I've never felt "stronger" or I had an unfair advantage with STC. If you have that feeling, it's simply a personal feeling. I obviously support this thread as I'm one of the few people in GM who stream with STC. I feel it's great for viewers especially on 1080p and have used it since I found out about it! | ||
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trbot
Canada142 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:31 CaptainCharisma wrote: How about just accepting that you're going to have problems with a game that demands basic skills that you don't have? I can see that you lack basic reasoning skills, maybe you should accept that you shouldn't chime in on these discussions. EDIT: maybe I should say something constructive, too. This isn't some fundamental thing I'm lacking. It's not like I can only play at 10apm. I just can't distinguish red and green. This is simple. Whenever a huge strategic advantage would come from the ability to distinguish between red or green, just change one of the colours. Derp. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:31 CaptainCharisma wrote: How about just accepting that you're going to have problems with a game that demands basic skills that you don't have? Except that these mods potentially allow this person to overcome an obstacle. You think you have good advice by telling someone to accept not being able to participate in something, when it would be easy for them to, through this? | ||
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AzureHath
Bulgaria154 Posts
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
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DrPhilOfdOOm
Sweden353 Posts
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:33 Lumi wrote: Except that these mods potentially allow this person to overcome an obstacle. You think you have good advice by telling someone to accept not being able to participate in something, when it would be easy for them to, through this? Where did I say he cannot participate? | ||
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Teliko
Ireland1044 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:37 AzureHath wrote: i got your back gav /sign <3 | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:41 xrapture wrote: A multi billion dollar company wants to make it harder for their product to get hacked. Boo hoo, end of the world, eh? multiple ppl have explained that it doesn't deal at all with hack. Reading is hard hey? | ||
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CaptainCharisma
New Zealand808 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:33 trbot wrote: I can see that you lack basic reasoning skills, maybe you should accept that you shouldn't chime in on these discussions. EDIT: maybe I should say something constructive, too. This isn't some fundamental thing I'm lacking. It's not like I can only play at 10apm. I just can't distinguish red and green. This is simple. Whenever a huge strategic advantage would come from the ability to distinguish between red or green, just change one of the colours. Derp. Cool, personal attacks. We'll see where this gets the debate going. If you had basic comprehension skills you'd realize that my post wasn't some sort of analysis loaded with reason. It was a suggestion for a crybaby. No reason required or asserted for such a comment. | ||
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trbot
Canada142 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:41 xrapture wrote: A multi billion dollar company wants to make it harder for their product to get hacked. Boo hoo, end of the world, eh? Stop perpetuating this nonsense. If you're not a computer science student you may not know it, but this has ZERO bearing on hackers' abilities to continue doing what they're doing. They will still be able to write loaders that unprotect the game's memory space and modify things, or just snoop around in the game's memory space with an external program to create maphacks. It's very easy, and doesn't require modifying ANY game files. On July 27 2012 09:43 CaptainCharisma wrote: Cool, personal attacks. We'll see where this gets the debate going. If you had basic comprehension skills you'd realize that my post wasn't some sort of analysis loaded with reason. It was a suggestion for a crybaby. No reason required or asserted for such a comment. Thanks for the tips, bro. I can see now that you're not worth conversing with. To anyone who's not an insensitive moron, the way you're behaving seems pretty terrible. | ||
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Sikly
United States413 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:22 Chargelot wrote: I'm sure it's an accident too, but Blizzard employees never speak for Blizzard. It's something you see a lot on the forums, any time someone from Blizzard agrees with something or comments on something with his own personal opinion it's never "official". Which was sort of my point, they could have said "I like this mod" and then banned everyone who used it anyways. The EULA is the master of the rules, not Blizzard Employee X, even if he happens to be David Kim or similar. It was a miracle that they didn't ban for this even with employee endorsement. Yes I would tell you Blizzard is not your bitch in real life. I'm a student of the University of Delaware, so if you're ever in the area shoot me a PM so I can tell you that Blizzard is not your bitch. But thanks for the laugh. Guess I should have clarified, the Blizzard employee I spoke of was Dustin Browder. And Dustin Browder(or David Kim, as the example you pointed out) actually do have the power to change the EULA. I'm sorry, the EULA isn't some magical thing that the gods gave to Blizzard and they have to strictly follow it. They can easily change it, and have many times in the past. Obviously they can change their minds and not allow modding, but when its an obvious oversight on their part, we have a pretty damn good chance of getting support. Being a negative nancy and saying "well be glad we had it till now" isn't how you solve problems. Blizzard is actually the customers bitch. If we as a customer base stopped giving them money they would no longer be a successful company. They know that keeping their customer base as happy as possible will get them more money in the long run, and something like this is very easy for them to fix/change. This isn't like LAN where giving to us actually takes a significant amount of power away from them. | ||
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Al Bundy
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
Cool, personal attacks. We'll see where this gets the debate going. If you had basic comprehension skills you'd realize that my post wasn't some sort of analysis loaded with reason. It was a suggestion for a crybaby. No reason required or asserted for such a comment. You complain about personal attacks after making them? You j ust s aid that your original post was a suggestion for a crybaby, which, guess what, is pretty much an insult. Seems like you're the crybaby, and that you're more interested in telling people to give up than overcome, even with simple things. And simultaneously you're trying to play to the tune of "we'll see where this gets the debate going" when all you've ever been doing is treating him like crap? What a joke, dude. He brings up a really good and unique POV for why color modding can be useful to people at a level as fundamental as solving his problem. The utility of the color mods has been in question in this thread previously, so his post falls in suit supremely well here. Can't say the same for you, and you're not going to convince any of us that you're not being a dick here because guess what, you were and it's obvious lol. | ||
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EoinDee
Ireland12 Posts
On July 27 2012 09:39 CaptainCharisma wrote: Where did I say he cannot participate? I don't even .... If you had a condition where you couldn't see the red dot for a nuke or other things like that because of a legitimate condition , and STC would help that , would you be against it ? No , you wouldn't . It's not like he is refusing to see the red dot on a green background , he physically can't . Get over yourself please. | ||
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