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Shakuras needs to go because it is just way too damn old. Plus the third is always weird to take in PvZ which makes me 2-base all-in every game, and that gets stale.
Taldarim has gone past its sell-by date as well, too many issues for both P and Z on this map in the current state of the game.
I personally don't like Antiga, but with forced cross-spawns I think it would be okay, and terrans need at least one map that favours them in the pool 
Just get Metropolis back on the ladder so we can see where that map leads to. And add Muspelheim, it doesn't look that great at first glance but that map has generated some awesome games!
And yes, every map should have no close-by-ground spawns and neutral supply-depots should be added everywhere!
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I cant help but think how bad it would be for Terrans if most of these maps were removed. 8)
But I would really like to see some of the new GSL maps in there, whirlwind and shit.
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Staggering statistic. That map is probably my best map for TvP. I think it's great.
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TDA out! --->>> Atlantis Spaceship in! 
Shakuras out! --->>> Sandshorn Mists in!
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I don't get people who say that X MAP is too old. Come one, It's been only 2 years. Sure some maps could use some minor changes but they don't necessarily need to go.
Antiga sucks though.
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The topic was about ladder pool, i play in the ladder. I dont get your argument? Even if marineking beats everyone in that map and you present me some stats about it, why should i care? I am not marineking. If the topic was about "what maps do you want to see pros play on", then ok lets see some tlpd stats lol.
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On July 19 2012 14:52 Gfire wrote:
Tal'Darim, Shakuras and Antiga are all quite bad and very old. They should be the next ones to go, imo.
I'd echo this, Blizz should be constantly making new maps regardless of balance to keep it interesting.
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I just brought it up to counter someone's PvT gripe about Antiga Shipyard.
Sure Antiga Shipyard favors Terran but there's maps favoring Protoss currently in the pool also, was the point I was really trying to make.
Also Ladder stats SHOULD matter for what maps end up in the LADDER pool. TLPD stats should be the biggest selling points for what maps end up in tournaments, but when there's that much of a disparity between tournament and ladder stats for a given map you can tell something's up.
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IMO the only map that needs to go is Condemned Ridge. I don't know what possessed them to put this terrible map in the ladder pool and also don't know why they haven't fixed Metropolis yet.
TDA needs to stay. Too many maps where it's just a herp derp "quick third" fest and it's the only map still on there that's not just the same old easily defendable third.
I also don't personally see how Antiga favors Terran past the "I'm bad so it must mean the map favors that other race" mentality.
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Condemned ridge and tal'darim altar aren't very good maps, plus not used in tournaments nowadays. I'm not use if they will remove condemned after just putting it in, but tal'darim was in the ladder pool forever and I think it's time for it to go. I doubt blizzard will put Atlantis Spaceship or they do they'll probably remove that rich gas like they always put the resources to the standard mode. Perhaps Whirlwind can be a good replacement for tal'darim since it's also a huge macro map.
As for Shakuras plateau, I always had respect for that map. It was never really imbalanced or had serious issues. I think it's a solid map which could still stay in the pool for a bit, I think condemned ridge and tal'darim are the two maps which need to be taken care of right now.
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I'd love to see how the golden oldie maps do with todays level of play. Metalopolis, Blistering Sands etc 
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On July 19 2012 16:33 Zerg.Zilla wrote:TDA out! --->>> Atlantis Spaceship in! Shakuras out! --->>> Sandshorn Mists in!
Fuck no.
Keep Atlantis Spaceship FAR FAR FAR away from ladder.
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I say taldarim, entombed valley, and daybreak all need to go.
Basically this is because at least for me, while playing Terran I simply cannot beat a decent Zerg on them.
Big maps or maps with thirds that are terribly hard to deny just don't favor Terran at all.
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Terran needs antiga, for the love of fucking god don't get rid of it
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Entombed Valley and Antiga Shipyard are the best maps.
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On July 19 2012 16:31 Hypemeup wrote:
I cant help but think how bad it would be for Terrans if most of these maps were removed. 8)
But I would really like to see some of the new GSL maps in there, whirlwind and shit.
On July 19 2012 16:43 VPCursed wrote:
Terran needs antiga, for the love of fucking god don't get rid of it
Before you say removing x map is bad for Terran or have a knee jerk reaction, doesn't it matter what the map will be replaced with? For instance if a map similar to Antiga Shipyard that was designed better replaces it then would there be a problem?
There could be entirely new gameplay experiences you are missing out on. The opportunity cost of keeping bad maps is high for you. I know there are better maps out there that very few know about.
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On July 19 2012 16:33 Zerg.Zilla wrote:TDA out! --->>> Atlantis Spaceship in! Shakuras out! --->>> Sandshorn Mists in!
Putting Atlantis spaceship on the ladder would be stupid. You'd only ever play ZvZ on it. No sane Terran or Protoss wouldn't veto it.
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a third with 2 normal gas and one rich vespene gas? no.
also, condemned ridge isnt too bad, i like the high ground near 3rd
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On July 19 2012 16:33 Zerg.Zilla wrote:TDA out! --->>> Atlantis Spaceship in! Shakuras out! --->>> Sandshorn Mists in!
Please no, both are not really good with the current way Starcraft II is played.
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Get rid of taldarim and add netural supply deports to make it easier for zerg to hold of cannon rushes, then i'm happy 
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