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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
On June 15 2012 02:33 usethis2 wrote: And I don't think MKP ever whines as much as MVP, either. At least not publicly. It's hard to whine at the same time that you're crying  User was warned for this post | ||
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kratos-23
303 Posts
mvp afraid of new competition? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:00 kratos-23 wrote: "However, because we are young, we still have plenty of opportunities. I hope those progamers decide to walk down a path other than gaming. If you feel like gaming might not be for you, you should try something new. I give this advice because I saw many in Starcraft 1 who suffered even more later on because they weren’t able to give up gaming. I’ve been meaning to say this for a while now but only got to do it now. " mvp afraid of new competition? not sure how you managed to get that out of that he's saying a lot of BW pros are confused as to what to do now that BW is almost dead, and that they should not continue pro-gaming in sc2 if they don't enjoy it just because they are afraid to do something else in life. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:25 fraktoasters wrote: So the best player in the world playing his best should lose. Yes. Aside from the fact that DRG isn't far and away the best player in the world (there isn't a clear best at this point in time) there are people who can put in uncharacteristically stellar performances and take down legends like Flash even when Flash is playing well. | ||
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MosteN
Sweden5 Posts
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kratos-23
303 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:01 Dodgin wrote: not sure how you managed to get that out of that he's saying a lot of BW pros are confused as to what to do now that BW is almost dead, and that they should not continue pro-gaming in sc2 if they don't enjoy it just because they are afraid to do something else in life. he said "I hope those progamers decide to walk down a path other than gaming." can't make it clearer for you. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:21 kratos-23 wrote: he said "I hope those progamers decide to walk down a path other than gaming." can't make it clearer for you. Is english not your first language? He doesn't want progamers who have lost their passion to feel forced to continue down that path because people have been burned by it before. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:21 kratos-23 wrote: he said "I hope those progamers decide to walk down a path other than gaming." can't make it clearer for you. oh man... | ||
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teamhozac
404 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:50 avilo wrote: Expecting that they revert the queen change very soon. Sure hope so | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:21 FakeDeath wrote: I find this funny actually. MVP:Lately my TvZ are only at 30% or so and i haven't won a single game against Nestea recently Nestea:When IM team members practice against each other, the Terrans win most of the time. Please MVP was whining when he said there is nothing terran can do against zerg. Mvp is not all IM Terrans. Also, a statement like that can be attributed to a gap in skill between the IM Terrans and the rest of the IM players, while an overall low win rate in all of Mvp's matchups except TvT indicates that he's having trouble against people on ladder and practice partners which could skew his winrate from his games against his (besides nestea and losira) relatively low-level teammates. Basically; Mvp is winning slightly more against the bad players on IM (not including Nestea and maybe losira), while he's losing more to the better players from other teams and on ladder. Also, from the same Nestea interview: "I feel like as long as I keep facing Terrans, I will make it all the way to the championship." When has Nestea ever been strongest against Terran? | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On June 15 2012 06:53 mikedebo wrote: It's hard to whine at the same time that you're crying First of all mikedebo, you're a douchebag. @usethis2 God, this took forever to find http://twitter.com/MKPS2/status/210345589035114499 User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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mrjpark
United States276 Posts
On June 14 2012 23:35 Gladiator333 wrote: He used to not whine so much, but I think after he got his wrist problems since August he has started to whine more and more in interviews. At least that's my opinion. He's always been whining. It was GomTvT, Protoss was struggling and Zerg seemed hopeless...and according to Mvp Terran needed buffs. Take his balance complaints with a grain of salt. And ignore Genius. Protoss had a 65% win rate against Zerg, Terrans had started their slow decline, Zergs were struggling..and Genius was complaining that Protoss was UP and had no idea why everyone else, including his Protoss colleagues, was saying Protoss was strong. These guys are pro gamers, they will (almost) always be biased for their own race. But if I learned anything in my life, it's that there is always a LITTLE BIT of truth in anything. It doesn't really matter what color the house is painted but the fact that it exists. So yeah, acknowledge that they said what they said. Think about it for yourself, don't take what they say at face value because they have their own agendas. | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On June 15 2012 03:16 lannisport wrote: Terrans and Tosses have inherited the Kong line whereas DRG has inherited the Dong line. Thou shall take complete responsibility for all your losses and wins. First time I saw him giving interview was at DH invitational and I remember him saying "Terran EZPZ". That was way before the many nerfs Terrans received since then. The guy has such a positive attitude toward the game and the balance, always trying to be better. Completely different from MVP/Nestea/Genius, etc. (Though Genius' grumbling is normally not a serious one) Nestea/MVP are a different case, who definitely see the game as their source of income and are willing to voice their opinions which are obviously biased favorably for themselves. They want to be heard, of course. Especially by D. Kim. Think of Idra. And now compare that to DRG/MKP's attitude. Maybe because it's due to their age but their balance comments are nowhere near as phony or intense as MVP/Nestea's. (Nestea's games in RO32 this season were underwhelming, to say the least) | ||
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On June 15 2012 07:58 mrjpark wrote: He's always been whining. It was GomTvT, Protoss was struggling and Zerg seemed hopeless...and according to Mvp Terran needed buffs. Take his balance complaints with a grain of salt. And ignore Genius. Protoss had a 65% win rate against Zerg, Terrans had started their slow decline, Zergs were struggling..and Genius was complaining that Protoss was UP and had no idea why everyone else, including his Protoss colleagues, was saying Protoss was strong. These guys are pro gamers, they will (almost) always be biased for their own race. But if I learned anything in my life, it's that there is always a LITTLE BIT of truth in anything. It doesn't really matter what color the house is painted but the fact that it exists. So yeah, acknowledge that they said what they said. Think about it for yourself, don't take what they say at face value because they have their own agendas. So basically what you're saying (as a Zerg player) is not to listen to these Terran and Protoss whiners complaining about Zerg imbalance, because everyone is biased to their own race? | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
Either that, I and I hope this is the case, MVP is trolling, hard. That said, enjoyable interviews - Genius has a sly sense of humour, IMO. | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On June 15 2012 08:00 crocodile wrote: So basically what you're saying (as a Zerg player) is not to listen to these Terran and Protoss whiners complaining about Zerg imbalance, because everyone is biased to their own race? What about when Stephano said PvZ is easy for Zerg? Or when DRG says he finds ZvT easy? Then everyone was like 'Yeah, but that's STEPHANO/DRG, obviously they find it easy.' | ||
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mrjpark
United States276 Posts
On June 15 2012 08:00 crocodile wrote: So basically what you're saying (as a Zerg player) is not to listen to these Terran and Protoss whiners complaining about Zerg imbalance, because everyone is biased to their own race? Did you take the time to read what I said? I said there is most likely some truth to what they said, but know that they have most definitely spun the situation to their advantage. As long as you go in knowing these two people not only have a history of whining frivolously, but that they're pro gamers whose careers can thrive/fall with metagames/balance, there needs to be an understanding that everyone whines for their own races. For those hailing DRG, he is guilty of it too. Yeah, he doesn't during professional interviews. And then he turns around, goes to Twitter, and says it's impossible to beat a Protoss who has good force fields and that the Zerg has to rely on a Protoss mistake in order to win. Does this sound familiar, but with different races? Everyone has this knee jerk reaction to a pretty giant metagame shift that MAY OR MAY NOT have balance issues. I never said to IGNORE these guys. Jesus Christ, some of you guys are ridiculous and are willing to cherry pick anything that's said to continue the crying. | ||
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