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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Top players were missing from each race Protoss : MC, Genius, HerO Terrans : MVP, Taeja Zergs : DRG, Nestea Some results from Ro32/Ro16 - Annyeong 2-1 Jjajki, Miya 2-0 Maru, Byul 2-0 MKP. MMA, GKP, aLIve, Keen all did not make Ro32 so not sure who that lost to. So it seems terrans have to figure some counters. | ||
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Dumboprime
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artosismermaid
213 Posts
Clearly buffing queen's this much creates a spiral effect that not only improves zerg's early game but translates into an even better then it already was lategame. I have followed this scene since day one. I am no longer willing to play or follow a game that rewards which race you pick rather then skill. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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the_business_og
United States167 Posts
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Highways
Australia6106 Posts
I also agree with MKP that foreign Terrans aren't showing results because of the race they picked. I'm not saying it is impossible to win, but it's very hard to stay consistent. I am not even a Terran player, so don't call me biased. | ||
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Applesqt
United States206 Posts
On June 15 2012 12:55 Highways wrote: The more I watch games the more I believe that MVP is correct. I also agree with MKP that foreign Terrans aren't showing results because of the race they picked. I'm not saying it is impossible to win, but it's very hard to stay consistent. Where did he say that? | ||
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Highways
Australia6106 Posts
이정훈 @MKPS2 @LiquidJinro other race >>>>>>>>>>> terran | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4532 Posts
On June 15 2012 13:13 Highways wrote: 이정훈 @MKPS2 @LiquidJinro other race >>>>>>>>>>> terran Okay then how did you get what you said from this tweet? | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
heh even if mkp hadn't said that I agree with it. Terran requires more apm/multi tasking/micro then zerg/protoss. It's a lot harder to play terran at a high korean level due to having to do a lot of splitting, macro, micro and dropping. Terrans just harder to get super gosu with which koreans excell at multitasking/micro/macro and all that so yeah in general I do agree with mkp  | ||
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Just last season, there were only 2 zergs in the Ro16. And zero in the Ro8. I find it difficult to believe that 2 months later, zerg is "too powerful." MVP is an incredible player. But possibly full of shit. So there was this patch. You might have heard of it... | ||
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Amlitzer
United States471 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
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brachester
Australia1786 Posts
On June 15 2012 13:20 FataLe wrote: Okay then how did you get what you said from this tweet? interpretation my friend | ||
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Daniel C
Hong Kong1606 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
I mean, if a race is "UP," you don't just give a single, non-combat (go with me here) support unit 2 extra range and make it all of a sudden drastically "OP." I get that small changes have big impacts, but c'mon. There is a faster-than-ever-before overlord in the corner of a map somewhere - hiding in the shadows, smiling. | ||
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:19 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Just last season, there were only 2 zergs in the Ro16. And zero in the Ro8. I find it difficult to believe that 2 months later, zerg is "too powerful." MVP is an incredible player. But possibly full of shit. 2 months and 1 patch later. AND DONT INSULT MY MVP YOU On June 15 2012 10:16 Orracle wrote: Keep in mind, when Terran was dominating, Protoss and Zerg players played very differently. Protoss was known for 1-2 base play, and up until recently, never went for late game vs Terran. Zergs have started implementing infestors into their play much more, and supporting their T3 with transfuses and simply dominating. Ya, there were some issues with 1-1-1, and 2 rax, that got addressed. Now Terran wants Blizzard to address the problems we're having. Lets not forget the nearly 30 game win streak Zerg achieved in the GSTL this season. Or the pros such as MKP, MVP, etc acknowledging the situation. The time of 1-2 base timings were long, long ago. And infestors have been used for half a year now too. Zerg is dominating only since the patch. | ||
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teamhozac
404 Posts
On June 15 2012 09:46 Diizzy wrote: yay zerg gets better scouting and a range upgrade for queens and suddenly op. other races just need to learn to use their tier 3 units better. lol what? This is exactly the argument I pointed out. "and suddenly op" No, it wasnt sudden, it has been this way for a long time and it just keeps getting worse. The only reason it does not seem that way is that some of the top pro Terrans are just so friggin good that they can still win. 99% of Terrans (at least the ones that still play) have been struggling in both non mirror match ups for a LOOOONG time. It hasnt been just one patch, its been about a dozen, coupled with larger maps, the metagame developing (figuring out terran timings, early aggression, etc) and several other factors that has made Terran all but impossible to play competitively unless you are a pro. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On June 15 2012 12:13 the_business_og wrote: conspiracy theory: blizzard management wanted the general public to get hyped for HOTS so they buffed zerg to get the lower level players to switch to Zerg and thus be more excited for HOTS You're giving them too much credit. At best, it's just game designers making rash/poor decisions, as they sometimes did with WoL. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On June 15 2012 10:33 vthree wrote: Besides GSTL, TSL4 had their Korean qualifiers yesterday. Again, it is one tournament but it doesn't look good for Terrans in Korea at the moment. 2/16 in ro16 and 1/8 in Ro8. Zergs were 10/16 and 6/8. Top players were missing from each race Protoss : MC, Genius, HerO Terrans : MVP, Taeja Zergs : DRG, Nestea Some results from Ro32/Ro16 - Annyeong 2-1 Jjajki, Miya 2-0 Maru, Byul 2-0 MKP. MMA, GKP, aLIve, Keen all did not make Ro32 so not sure who that lost to. So it seems terrans have to figure some counters. DRG did play but lost in the first round to Sage. Apparently you can't win ZvP if you forget your Roach Warren. | ||
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