On June 15 2012 05:44 the_business_og wrote: to all the people that say mvp is whining: he is much much better than you in all three races. If you watch his games vs sushohin you can see the mind games he plays with him. MVP is not only themost sucessful sc2 player but also, one who clearly thinks about the game.Theres no motive for him to whine when he won.
He might be feeling partially responsible for some of terran nerfs. I don't think he should be.
On June 15 2012 05:44 the_business_og wrote: to all the people that say mvp is whining: he is much much better than you in all three races. If you watch his games vs sushohin you can see the mind games he plays with him. MVP is not only themost sucessful sc2 player but also, one who clearly thinks about the game.Theres no motive for him to whine when he won.
He might be feeling partially responsible for some of terran nerfs. I don't think he should be.
He's like 90% of the reasons behind the Ghost nerf tho. <<
On June 15 2012 05:44 the_business_og wrote: to all the people that say mvp is whining: he is much much better than you in all three races. If you watch his games vs sushohin you can see the mind games he plays with him. MVP is not only themost sucessful sc2 player but also, one who clearly thinks about the game.Theres no motive for him to whine when he won.
He might be feeling partially responsible for some of terran nerfs. I don't think he should be.
He's like 90% of the reasons behind the Ghost nerf tho. <<
On June 15 2012 05:44 the_business_og wrote: to all the people that say mvp is whining: he is much much better than you in all three races. If you watch his games vs sushohin you can see the mind games he plays with him. MVP is not only themost sucessful sc2 player but also, one who clearly thinks about the game.Theres no motive for him to whine when he won.
He might be feeling partially responsible for some of terran nerfs. I don't think he should be.
He's like 90% of the reasons behind the Ghost nerf tho. <<
bru frame too. his tvt was become too imba
Blue flame was mostly the fault of Slayers, especially during MLG Columbus. If people on these boards think the Terran whining right now is bad, they don't remember the era of blue flame.
Damn this thread has a lot of responses for a GSL interview thread, Mvp is a popular guy.
Anyway, Mvp has played random on ladder since forever. I'm sure he knows what's OP and what's not, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with this interview. Interviewers need to stop asking balance related questions if you don't want to hear about it.
On June 15 2012 00:52 FakeDeath wrote: Wow i guess DRG should win this season since terran can't figured out ways to deal with the new queen buff yet.
DRG really distinguishes himself from all these whiny T/Z/P players. Even when Zs were dying left and right (including himself) he never complained about balance.
Because zerg players were bad, and it had nothing to do with balance.
On June 15 2012 00:29 Bagration wrote: It's definitely an indicator that something may be off when the world's best player is complaining about balance... :|
Congrats MVP and Genius
April 2011 before blue flamme, ghost, thor nerfs,etc Terran is the weakest race...
Haha, i remember that one...Lets be serious here people, nestea will probably say that zerg is the weakest race too. It's in those korean progamers nature to feel like they are doing badly and something is holding them back, its what makes them strive to do better.
MVP said that since GSL had just switched from the small ish maps like Xel Naga caverns to the massive maps like Tal'Darim altar and the space Tal'Darim altar one (forgot the name), and all of the terrans timing attacks had been affected by this. New things were eventually figured out by terrans as is the norm, and were nerfed, as is also the norm.
On June 15 2012 03:44 babysimba wrote: There's nothing wrong with saying one cannot lose if he plays perfectly. If flash can't lose when he plays perfectly, does it mean terran is imbalanced? Even JD has said sc2 zerg has a high enough skill cap mechanically for him to outshine other zergs. Take their opinions with a grain of salt. They might be boasting, whining, playing mind games, or just entertaining their fans.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
...I'm talking about the fact that there are players of other races who have the same skill level as DRG.
It's hard to compare across races. And you have absolutely no facts backing your argument. In addition, I have yet to see any Terran or Protoss hit 600 EPM as everyone did during last weekend's MLG.
High EAPM doesn't make you the better player.
Jesus, people on TL need to stop having an orgasm over high APM. It doesn't matter that much.
On June 15 2012 03:44 babysimba wrote: There's nothing wrong with saying one cannot lose if he plays perfectly. If flash can't lose when he plays perfectly, does it mean terran is imbalanced? Even JD has said sc2 zerg has a high enough skill cap mechanically for him to outshine other zergs. Take their opinions with a grain of salt. They might be boasting, whining, playing mind games, or just entertaining their fans.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
...I'm talking about the fact that there are players of other races who have the same skill level as DRG.
It's hard to compare across races. And you have absolutely no facts backing your argument. In addition, I have yet to see any Terran or Protoss hit 600 EPM as everyone did during last weekend's MLG.
High EAPM doesn't make you the better player.
Jesus, people on TL need to stop having an orgasm over high APM. It doesn't matter that much.
But Flash is/was the fastest player in BW, that's why he is a god. /sarcasm
On June 15 2012 03:44 babysimba wrote: There's nothing wrong with saying one cannot lose if he plays perfectly. If flash can't lose when he plays perfectly, does it mean terran is imbalanced? Even JD has said sc2 zerg has a high enough skill cap mechanically for him to outshine other zergs. Take their opinions with a grain of salt. They might be boasting, whining, playing mind games, or just entertaining their fans.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
...I'm talking about the fact that there are players of other races who have the same skill level as DRG.
It's hard to compare across races. And you have absolutely no facts backing your argument. In addition, I have yet to see any Terran or Protoss hit 600 EPM as everyone did during last weekend's MLG.
High EAPM doesn't make you the better player.
Jesus, people on TL need to stop having an orgasm over high APM. It doesn't matter that much.
But Flash is/was the fastest player in BW, that's why he is a god.
On June 15 2012 03:44 babysimba wrote: There's nothing wrong with saying one cannot lose if he plays perfectly. If flash can't lose when he plays perfectly, does it mean terran is imbalanced? Even JD has said sc2 zerg has a high enough skill cap mechanically for him to outshine other zergs. Take their opinions with a grain of salt. They might be boasting, whining, playing mind games, or just entertaining their fans.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
...I'm talking about the fact that there are players of other races who have the same skill level as DRG.
It's hard to compare across races. And you have absolutely no facts backing your argument. In addition, I have yet to see any Terran or Protoss hit 600 EPM as everyone did during last weekend's MLG.
High EAPM doesn't make you the better player.
Jesus, people on TL need to stop having an orgasm over high APM. It doesn't matter that much.
But Flash is/was the fastest player in BW, that's why he is a god.
On June 15 2012 05:44 the_business_og wrote: to all the people that say mvp is whining: he is much much better than you in all three races. If you watch his games vs sushohin you can see the mind games he plays with him. MVP is not only themost sucessful sc2 player but also, one who clearly thinks about the game.Theres no motive for him to whine when he won.
He might be feeling partially responsible for some of terran nerfs. I don't think he should be.
He's like 90% of the reasons behind the Ghost nerf tho. <<
bru frame too. his tvt was become too imba
Blue flame was mostly the fault of Slayers, especially during MLG Columbus. If people on these boards think the Terran whining right now is bad, they don't remember the era of blue flame.
Sometimes it makes you wonder, if Zerg players at that time play early game safe like they do right now, do we really need that nerf. At that time, zerg players played so greedy, no early spine, no roaches, 2,3 queen max,.v..v.v. The metagame was so different.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
You do realize that he got 450 eapm because he spams attack move which is 600-700 eapm. I as protoss think too that terran is way too weak that this point considering we've seen alive,mkp and others get wiped on the floor with other races.
On June 15 2012 03:44 babysimba wrote: There's nothing wrong with saying one cannot lose if he plays perfectly. If flash can't lose when he plays perfectly, does it mean terran is imbalanced? Even JD has said sc2 zerg has a high enough skill cap mechanically for him to outshine other zergs. Take their opinions with a grain of salt. They might be boasting, whining, playing mind games, or just entertaining their fans.
Nobody said "perfectly." DRG said it didn't matter if any other player played well against him as long as he played well. So what, when two players both play well, the Zerg gets an easy win? I know Zerg players like to pretend DRG is on a level above Code S, but he isn't. He's a talented player, yes, but there are plenty of them, many of whom are definitely on the same level as DRG.
Tell me which zerg is on DRG level? DRG is the best zerg NOW.The guy got a freaking average 450 EAPM. I could even say he is the strongest player in terms of mechanic and speed.
Anyways, TvZ match-up is favoring the zerg currently.
OMG Please don't take DRG words so literally. He was just confident that he could beat anybody in MLG after beating MKP in the winners final.
APM doesn´t mean shit. You really don´t need that much for SCII atm. Also, even if DRG is the best player in the world, the fact that he will win no matter what if he plays his best is not how the state game should be.
So the best player in the world playing his best should lose.
Glad MVP once again was able to advance, he is such a boss. I wonder if his wrists are finally healed, didn't hear him mention them in quite a while. Also, as usual thanks storywriter <3
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