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HeroMystic
United States1217 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:37 ImNightmare wrote: It heals pretty fast, the terran didn't get nitro packs for it so its slow but its understandable since its a show match. I would say it is a good harasser, would love to give it a go From what I saw, Nitro Packs weren't even an option. It got completely removed. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:37 ImNightmare wrote: It heals pretty fast, the terran didn't get nitro packs for it so its slow but its understandable since its a show match. I would say it is a good harasser, would love to give it a go There is no Nitro Packs in the current build its replaced by the heal. Which would be worse than the current Reaper. | ||
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Esk23
United States447 Posts
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larse
1611 Posts
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Nagano
United States1157 Posts
And abduct, don't have to say much about how this ability pretty much ruins any type of positional play. Especially when you combine it with Consume, you pretty much always have it up. | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:25 Plethora wrote: well RIGHT NOW Siege tanks are scary units. With HotS that will change though.So as a terran player, heres my thing. When I'm playing against zerg, and the game is going along things happen, blah blah, then I see broodlords. Most of the time its "oh shit, gotta do something about that". There's just that little bit of fear, even if I'm ahead, even if I am successfully able to deal with them, its just kind of an intimidating unit. Toss is a bit different in that its the deathball itself that's scary, but still, its there. There are times where, playing against a protoss I can be on even footing or even slightly ahead, and I scan and I see that army and just kinda groan because I know its gonna be incredibly hard to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming its impossible, its just that slight fear that I think is ultimately good for the game. What does terran have? What can I shoot for late game that's going to inspire that fear in my opponent. Call me stupid because I don't watch too much TvP, but terrans can death ball vs protoss or zerg with hellion-siegetank-thor (which will change to tank-hellion-warhound-thor). I know it's not the most common strategy (especially vs P), at least at the top level, but unless you're also top level that's probably not relevant. Note i'm not saying it's OP, but it takes specific preparation and tactics to deal with a terran death ball just like a protoss death ball. On June 09 2012 12:40 Nagano wrote: Consume? is that a new ability for viper? works the same way as deflier's or what?And abduct, don't have to say much about how this ability pretty much ruins any type of positional play. Especially when you combine it with Consume, you pretty much always have it up. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:38 Fencer710 wrote: I heavily disagree. In the game casted by Day9 and Rob Simpson you can see that a Reaper expand build can definitely be viable for early game harassment and possibly to contain creep, since they now have 60 HP and that 50/50 ability to heal out of combat. You can also bring them along with your mid-game push to kill off some more Zerglings. You could to that a billion times better with speed instead of the Heal. | ||
SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
Reaper speed upgrade no longer requires factory | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:38 HeroMystic wrote: From what I saw, Nitro Packs weren't even an option. It got completely removed. There is ^ | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:39 s3rp wrote: There is no Nitro Packs in the current build its replaced by the heal. Which would be worse than the current Reaper. It's worse for all-in's and late-game harassment where you have a lot of Medivacs, but it's better for late-game play where you don't really want your Reapers to go way ahead of your Bio army. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
 M18M is probably very giddy about all these new Stargate units. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:40 SarcasmMonster wrote: Reaper nitro pack got a buff, so hopefully that helps. Speedy speedy reapers. Reaper speed upgrade no longer requires factory They might've added it again but in the build with the showmatch there was no nitro packs available in the techlab . Not sure whats accurate though. | ||
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Elvin
149 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:40 Xapti wrote: well RIGHT NOW Siege tanks are scary units. With HotS that will change though. Call me stupid because I don't watch too much TvP, but terrans can death ball vs protoss or zerg with hellion-siegetank-thor (which will change to tank-hellion-warhound-thor). h ball. Siege tanks are by no means scary. I am not gonna call you stupid but there is no such thing as mech death ball vs protoss. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:42 Fencer710 wrote: It's worse for all-in's and late-game harassment where you have a lot of Medivacs, but it's better for late-game play where you don't really want your Reapers to go way ahead of your Bio army. Instead they fall behind the stimmed Bio ... I can manage Reapers running ahead before battles but them falling behind in battles would suck mightily. | ||
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-Exalt-
United States972 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:18 GinDo wrote: People are complaining because we care more about FUN, then EZ WIN. We miss the Mech style of BW with TANKS and SpiderMine VULTURES. Right now Blizzard has given us 1a Battle Hellions and 1a Warhounds. Both of which look silly, and boring to play. no one is stopping you from using Tanks and Mines/ bf hellions with warhound/battle hellions.. terrans will never stop complaning I guess until blizzrd releases Starcraft 2: Broodwar which is just brood war with updated graphics. | ||
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larse
1611 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:43 Elvin wrote: Siege tanks are by no means scary. I am not gonna call you stupid but there is no such thing as mech death ball vs protoss. Everyone now knows that tanks are dead in HOTS. | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:43 Elvin wrote: Siege tanks are by no means scary. I am not gonna call you stupid but there is no such thing as mech death ball vs protoss. There have been some 2-base pushes/all-in's where the Terran goes for Marine/Medivac/Siege Tank against the Protoss. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:42 s3rp wrote: They might've added it against but in the build with the showmatch there was no nitro packs available in the techlab . Not sure whats accurate though. Obviously, the showmatch build is older since they definitely pre-recorded it prior to MLG. Plus, didn't Day[9] visit Blizzard HQ to do some Diablo 3 interviews and stuff some time ago? I might need to check what clothes he was wearing, since perhaps the timing of the showmatch build might be that old. | ||
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Plethora
United States206 Posts
I miss vultures, reaver & shuttle, muta micro, hell even marine vs lurker micro. What are the most microable units in SC2? Reaper (nerfed to the point of being irrelevent) Banshees maybe? Blink Stalkers? Both have some fun micro tricks but nothing thats really going to make a crowd ooh and ahh. I think the coolest microing in SC2 is probably marine splitting vs banelings. That's one of the very few things you can watch a pro do and really just kinda marvel at sometimes. Aside from that, what is there? | ||
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Fencar
United States2694 Posts
On June 09 2012 12:44 larse wrote: Everyone now knows that tanks are dead in HOTS. I do hope that Ghosts get a buff, which could make Siege Tanks more viable since the Ghosts could shut down the Vipers, as well as sniping things like Banelings and Hydralisks. | ||
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