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Dynamoe
Profile Joined June 2012
United States5 Posts
July 06 2012 19:45 GMT
#321
On July 06 2012 20:40 ErAsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2012 06:50 Dynamoe wrote:
I’m a silver protoss player and I wanted to work on my mechanics. One of my bad habits is scrolling too much rather than clicking on the minimap. I was thinking of setting the scroll speed to 1% to force myself not to scroll. I was just wondering what people thought of this idea and if anyone has tried it. Any comments or concerns would be appreciated.

That's a really bad idea. It's not like scrolling is bad unless it's very far away. Set your scroll speed at ~75%-100% instead.

Oh really? I assumed it would be bad in the long run but I was thinking of doing it for a couple of weeks just it get me in the habit of using the minimap more. I also just tanked my mmr in order to attempt a Funday Monday so I was thinking that having a handicap that improved my mechanics would be good.

By the way, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my message. I really appreciate it.
one zealot to rule them all
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 06 2012 20:56 GMT
#322
Question, why does 90% of the forum feel qualified to talk about balance just because they heard some GSL Terran say it's tough?
90% of this forum isn't even close to the level where the balance would affect them because they can't do things like inject constantly, or constant unit production and so on.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 06 2012 23:12 GMT
#323
Answer: Because it's gotten more difficult for them. At the current time, most vocal Terrans are in a sort of negative feedback loop. They have a bad time on ladder; tournament; watching streams. They share the thoughts and others agree with them. Some come up with new strategies and some complain.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
sayhiplease
Profile Joined July 2012
1 Post
July 06 2012 23:39 GMT
#324
Hey guys,
is there a site which offers Sc2 statistics about the last 10k matches as well as some player ranking and head to head result stats?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 07 2012 12:41 GMT
#325
TLPD; click Record and Games on a player to bring up their records versus opponents/races. Same deal for maps.

Can't think of a place for the last 10k games though
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
MightyChum
Profile Joined June 2012
England4 Posts
July 07 2012 15:08 GMT
#326
Im still a forever Bronze player who watches far more than he plays. With this in mind can someone explain why most commentators and casters these days are talking about how Terrans aren't opening with reactored Hellions against Zerg? Yet in the same games they say this (it's a very common phrase currently in use) the Terran opens reactored Hellions against Zerg, I mean I think an example of this was the NASL Ret vs Dimaga just recently, though I also heard it on a commentary of Sheth vs Thorzain on ladder as well as other (husky, day9 etc)
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweatty things.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
July 07 2012 16:15 GMT
#327
Who decides what gets put up on the front page of TeamLiquid? I think it's weird that the news feed about Prime's elimination from the GSTL is still up, when TL could be covering Homestory. It gives me the impression that the loser's bracket of a Korean competition (or rather, just the GSL - how come TL never front page mentioned MKP's all kill of Startale in the KSL?) gets precedence over a fantastic Eurocentric tourney like Homestory
Second favorite strategy game of all time: Starcraft. First: Go (aka Wei Qi, Paduk, or Igo)
redruMBunny
Profile Joined June 2012
74 Posts
July 08 2012 00:21 GMT
#328
On July 07 2012 05:56 Denzil wrote:
Question, why does 90% of the forum feel qualified to talk (snip)


You don't need to be good to have an opinion.

Most of the flames come from players that completely overlook that. =^.-=

Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:24:40
July 08 2012 00:23 GMT
#329
On July 08 2012 00:08 MightyChum wrote:
Im still a forever Bronze player who watches far more than he plays. With this in mind can someone explain why most commentators and casters these days are talking about how Terrans aren't opening with reactored Hellions against Zerg? Yet in the same games they say this (it's a very common phrase currently in use) the Terran opens reactored Hellions against Zerg, I mean I think an example of this was the NASL Ret vs Dimaga just recently, though I also heard it on a commentary of Sheth vs Thorzain on ladder as well as other (husky, day9 etc)


I think the reason they say terrans aren't opening with reactored hellions is because there is a zerg build that gets from 4 to 6 queens (usually 6) which deals with hellion harass pretty well, so hellions become kind of useless. They can't stop creep spread effectively because they cannot kite queens (new range) anymore.
redruMBunny
Profile Joined June 2012
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 00:40:41
July 08 2012 00:40 GMT
#330
On July 08 2012 00:08 MightyChum wrote:
Im still a forever Bronze player who watches far more than he plays. With this in mind can someone explain why most commentators and casters these days are talking about how Terrans aren't opening with reactored Hellions against Zerg? Yet in the same games they say this (it's a very common phrase currently in use) the Terran opens reactored Hellions against Zerg, I mean I think an example of this was the NASL Ret vs Dimaga just recently, though I also heard it on a commentary of Sheth vs Thorzain on ladder as well as other (husky, day9 etc)


IMO most SC2 commentators just aren't that good at commentating, whether GOM, NASL, Day9, whatever. Although I really don't follow Day9 much (he's too entertainy and not enough informy for me), I'll quote his

--

http://nasl.tv/News/Article/20110506the-art-of-casting

Who’d be a caster? Low pay, long hours, and the reward is generally a couple of forum pages of people wishing you an untimely death. . . .There are only a handful of people capable of keeping the analysis and entertainment both at a high level and provide both ends of the spectrum at the same time; this is why Day[9] has his Pope-like status. . . . The world of commentating, much like the rest of western SCII, is currently in a limbo between amateur enthusiasm and professionalism. The players are not quite there yet, the competitions aren’t, and similarly the casters are still in a learning process.


--

On the topic of reactor hellions - there's OLD reactor hellions and NEW reactor hellions. Commentators generally just assume viewers know the difference, just like they should automatically know the hit count difference between 1v0 TvZ upgrades, or 0v1. (Again - I think commentators come up short).

What's the difference? Long story short, queens got a range buff, so Terrans can't just waltz in and own Zerg with a few Hellions any more. Now it takes a bit of doing.

There are threads on the forum going back and forth about "queen range buff" / "tvz" / "designated balance thread", just look at them a bit if you want more details. Or better yet, don't look . . . it isn't pretty.
redruMBunny
Profile Joined June 2012
74 Posts
July 08 2012 00:42 GMT
#331
On July 08 2012 09:23 darkness wrote:
(snip) so hellions become kind of useless. (snip)


That is subjective opinion.

It is a fact, though, that pros continue to use hellions in the TvZ matchup.
MightyChum
Profile Joined June 2012
England4 Posts
July 08 2012 01:18 GMT
#332
Thanks for the responses and that article snippet really makes a lot of sense, it ties in with what I think Artosis might have been saying, about Korean commentators actually having script writers and researchers in comparison to a lot of foreign commentators who seem a lot more bedroom productions.

Also cheers for explaining about the queen buff, I'd known about that, just couldn't understand why casters kept saying reactor hellion was being phased out, then watching for yet another tvz, reactor hellion trying to deny the creep spread or get around it and break drones (ofc usually failing but still).
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweatty things.
Psilo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States115 Posts
July 08 2012 07:04 GMT
#333
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/w7aem/missile_tourettes/

Just made this, just wondering if people here think its humorous or not. (Not sure if this is the place to post)
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 08 2012 20:17 GMT
#334
If I were shit on by mutalisks all day I'd develop a disorder too.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 09 2012 15:36 GMT
#335
On July 08 2012 09:21 redruMBunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:56 Denzil wrote:
Question, why does 90% of the forum feel qualified to talk (snip)


You don't need to be good to have an opinion.

Most of the flames come from players that completely overlook that. =^.-=



Yep.
Just like you don't need a law degree to vote.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
July 09 2012 20:29 GMT
#336
http://prikachi.com/images/245/4997245t.jpg

Just had a game where I prevented infestors from escaping like a boss. LOL. ^^
ParadoxiCal
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4 Posts
July 09 2012 20:42 GMT
#337
I'm offering free coaching to lower league players (I'm mid-masters random)
Check out my blog if you're interested. Constructive criticism/feedback is welcome. http://sc2bootcamp.wordpress.com/
moo
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#338
On July 10 2012 05:29 darkness wrote:
http://prikachi.com/images/245/4997245t.jpg

Just had a game where I prevented infestors from escaping like a boss. LOL. ^^


It's funny that you say that. Because I'm pretty sure that losing 4 mules is worst then 3 infestors resource wise.
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INsyncSC2
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
July 10 2012 09:51 GMT
#339
I'm a silver terran and have been for a long time and was wondering if i could get some advice.
It seems that at the moment even though i can execute my builds well enough to get up to my late game army fairly quickly i still just get rolled by z/p, i attempt multi-pronged attacks etc and transition to ghost/viking accordingly most of the time. The main issue i'm having is most z and p know they can essentially roll terran if they protect from drop harrass at their expands and shut down ours.
I've been a progamer stream viewer since i started playing and often watch players like kas/forgg/dragon/bomber and notice that although they will be 100x faster and more efficient with their builds, they don't seem to have the problem of just getting rolled by the late game armies of z and p. I played a tvp yesterday where i played my part to the degree where i should have just walked over to the p army and destroyed it, i scouted the collossus (and so produced appropriate vikings), my upgrades were 3:3 to his 2:1, and i even had 2 ghosts that landed some nice emps on the zealots, my army was maxed at 16 mins and i was annihilated without the use of storms or any kind of cutesy force field micro on the p part. I'm losing the will to live as i just don't know what else i can do to try and win... what makes it worse is im just a cruddy silver. is it normal to feel this way this low down in the ladder? I would really appreciate any tips or pointers on how to get up in the ladders and out of this max army wipe zone thanks
Beta2k
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 12:40:38
July 10 2012 12:39 GMT
#340
who was the lest non-korean player who attended an OSL (and maybe managed to advance)?
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