EPTHe still beat his group with ease, losing only to Ace.
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
He still beat his group with ease, losing only to Ace. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
If you going to nitpicking you can say similar stuff about all group though | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On June 02 2012 07:13 ch33psh33p wrote: He still beat his group with ease, losing only to Ace. He destroyed everyone to 4-0 before losing to AcE in a epic fun game where he was trying to give B4 anothre chance at promotion. | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Is Symbol worth caring about? The hell? You do realize he had to beat sC, Seed, and Jjakji(who he rolled HARD) to get here right? That's a very difficult road that included a gsl champ and opponents who are all very good against zerg. Never mind his recent 2nd places at two major tournaments, winning a lengthy qualifier and getting 2nd in another. Never mind that he's been the most creative Zerg for the past few months. Never mind that he's the sole representative of TSL and this is his first shot at code S. No let's dismiss him for not doing well in code S yet. Yeah fuck that. Also, I'd say if anything, Yugioh has exceeded what little expectations anyone had for him. At least, for me, this is the first time I'm actually excited to see him play. He played very well against MKP to secure his spot. It wasn't like he just slipped through the cracks this time. He payed the iron price for his code S :p. | ||
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Witten
United States2094 Posts
On June 02 2012 07:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Is Symbol worth caring about? The hell? You do realize he had to beat sC, Seed, and Jjakji(who he rolled HARD) to get here right? That's a very difficult road that included a gsl champ and opponents who are all very good against zerg. Never mind his recent 2nd places at two major tournaments, winning a lengthy qualifier and getting 2nd in another. Never mind that he's been the most creative Zerg for the past few months. Never mind that he's the sole representative of TSL and this is his first shot at code S. No let's dismiss him for not doing well in code S yet. Yeah fuck that. Also, I'd say if anything, Yugioh has exceeded what little expectations anyone had for him. At least, for me, this is the first time I'm actually excited to see him play. He played very well against MKP to secure his spot. It wasn't like he just slipped through the cracks this time. He payed the iron price for his code S :p. What he actually meant to say is that he has no idea who Symbol is and that he hasn't seem him play, therefore he's not very good. | ||
opterown
Australia54785 Posts
and creator, maru and byun!! | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On top of that, MKP has been inches away from GSL titles since 2010. If ANYONE is going to suddenly fall off in a 2 months span and be left behind by the metagame, I'm pretty sure its not gonna be a guy who has maintained consistently Code S form since 2010. His worst result in that time was getting 13th in 2011 MLG providence against a STACKED bracket, including MVP, Leenock, MMA, etc. Who knocked him out? MVP. The Best Terran in the World at the time. And the current GSL champ. 2 months might be an appreciable amount of time in SC2, and we've seen players fall off in that time, but MKP is still unbelievably good, and he's already long proven he's not some flash in the pan who got lucky in getting into Code S. He's a monster, and regardless of recent results, any player that gets him in their group and doesn't fear him just a little, is underestimating him. And on MKP's side, he's not going to fall apart just because of a few recent losses, he's been around too long for that. Group F = Group of death. MKP isn't by any stretch an underdog like some people seem to think. Symbol is battling to prove his good form isn't a passing phase, YuGiOh and Parting are both just really, REALLY good players. If I had to rank the group in terms of overall skill though, I'd have to say: MKP, Parting, Symbol, YuGiOh. | ||
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IMHope
Korea (South)1241 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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jobber123rd
United States501 Posts
On June 02 2012 08:47 GhandiEAGLE wrote: wait, guys, where is stephano?? He moved his trip to Korea back to August. | ||
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On June 02 2012 08:47 GhandiEAGLE wrote: wait, guys, where is stephano?? lol mods should put a mod note saying when steph is coming | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
Group B: Creator NesTea Group C: Squirtle Keen Group D: Mvp Happy Group E: Sniper MC Group F: PartinG MKP Group G: Maru DRG Group H: Taeja Leenock I'm giving MKP a chance given that he usually bounces back in GSL after going to up and downs right away. So that would be: 5 Protoss 7 Terran 4 Zerg Which is a pretty good balance of races  Even better if Symbol makes it over MKP which would give 5 6 5 | ||
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SpecFire
United States1681 Posts
-Chance of Getting out (or this occuring): 4/5 Notes: Seed is unproven and has not shown Code S level play, despite the hype. Curious does not stand a chance vs Hero, and GhostKing is on fire. Group B Nestea, Creator -Chance of Getting out: 2/5 Notes: This group can go ANY way. Naniwa can easily beat Creator in a PvP, and TheSTC defeated freaking DRG last season easily. But I'm going with a revived Nestea (who has been out of Code S in RO32 2 seasons in a row) and a Creator with good PvP. Group C Squirtle, ThorZaIN Chances of Getting Out: 4/5 Notes: Squirtle is a sure go. However, I hope he isn't too affected by his loss in the finals (runner-up curse). I believe thorZaIN, with the help of SlayerS house, can defeated GuMiho in a TvT. Keen is a no-go, even though he beat MMA (MMA played shitty). Group D MVP, Genius Chances of Getting Out: 4/5 Notes: Only upset here could be Happy over Genius. However, I like Genius's PvT. Also, as SlayerS_Miya says, Protoss imba. Group E SuperNoVa, MC Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: Even though GanZI may have MC's number at times, GanZI's TvP is shit. Also, MC should have the advantage in the GSL. Sniper could come up big here, defeating both MC and SuperNova, but I have faith in Supernova. Group F Marineking, Parting Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: First, Marineking WILL beat YuGiOh. After a close series in Code A, Marineking will study those games and I am sure he will be back and crush YuGiOh. Symbol Parting can go either way, but I give the edge to Parting. Yeah, every one of these guys can defeat MKP, but Marineking will learn and adapt. Group G DongRaeGu, viOLet Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: Idk why everyone is freaking out about this group. Oz has lost his fire, and I believe Maru is overrated. Dongraegu is a for sure go, and I will violet's ZvP over Oz. However, Violet might be different in the GSL than in overseas tournaments. Group H Leenock, Ryung Chances of Getting out: 4/5 Notes: Taeja will crush Ace. Idk how the hell he got into Code S. And in TvT , I give Ryung the edge over Taeja. Lemme know what you guys think. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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thrawn1020
United States32 Posts
I saw Symbol play. He was good. I know he has good results in foreign tournaments. I've seen the record. Jjakji: didn't make it back into Code S. Also wildly overrated for his play in recent months. Sc: Struggling with his health, sure; but what league is he in? Code B. NO offense intended there, but he is in Code B. And lastly, Seed. Low-tier Code S player. Likely to perennially be in the Up and Down matches. I want better for him, but he hasn't shown it yet. I want to see players do well coming out of Code B, don't get me wrong. I'm no Yonghwa apologist. There are people who have repeatedly qualified since we knew about Yonghwa. I know, the Code A qualifier is hard; but there are players who are more deserving of Code A slots; many are in Code A now. Quoting GuitarBizarre "And on MKP's side, he's not going to fall apart just because of a few recent losses, he's been around too long for that." Really, nobody has been around too long for that. Nobody is proven. MKP has one of the worst styles of any of the Code S terrans remaining for TvT. Only Happy and theSTC are worse, and they are at least practicing the right styles. And if you think that MKP can't fall out just because he survived GomTvT, then I urge you to watch the first round of Code A. Bring your handkerchief; there will be crying involved when some of your favorite old Terrans fall out. At this point, MKP is too good to lose out of Code A, but I see him as easily able to slip out of Code S and have some trouble coming back. This is no weekend tournament; This is a preparation-based format where it is not merely the best player at playing 30 games in a row who wins, it is the player who can define what it is about the other player they can attack and break down, and then execute it. And second places in foreign events that happen over a weekend, and/or old GSL formats that involved a lot of substandard players, don't mean diddly to me. I don't pay for the GSL to watch ladder games; I judge based on the best, most prepared games possible, with a specific opponent in mind. And the GSL has delivered. Casters can say what they want; words are wind. They are paid for them. MKP has been the best performer abroad in weekend tournaments -- congratulations to him. But I have more respect for players who win a GSL than players who win any foreign tournament -- excepting Jjakji, who has fallen off precipitously since he won. Oh, and never, ever, did I say I thought MKP was "bad". | ||
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dgwow
Canada1024 Posts
On June 02 2012 09:06 SpecFire wrote: Group A: Hero, GhostKing -Chance of Getting out (or this occuring): 4/5 Notes: Seed is unproven and has not shown Code S level play, despite the hype. Curious does not stand a chance vs Hero, and GhostKing is on fire. Group B Nestea, Creator -Chance of Getting out: 2/5 Notes: This group can go ANY way. Naniwa can easily beat Creator in a PvP, and TheSTC defeated freaking DRG last season easily. But I'm going with a revived Nestea (who has been out of Code S in RO32 2 seasons in a row) and a Creator with good PvP. Group C Squirtle, ThorZaIN Chances of Getting Out: 4/5 Notes: Squirtle is a sure go. However, I hope he isn't too affected by his loss in the finals (runner-up curse). I believe thorZaIN, with the help of SlayerS house, can defeated GuMiho in a TvT. Keen is a no-go, even though he beat MMA (MMA played shitty). Group D MVP, Genius Chances of Getting Out: 4/5 Notes: Only upset here could be Happy over Genius. However, I like Genius's PvT. Also, as SlayerS_Miya says, Protoss imba. Group E SuperNoVa, MC Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: Even though GanZI may have MC's number at times, GanZI's TvP is shit. Also, MC should have the advantage in the GSL. Sniper could come up big here, defeating both MC and SuperNova, but I have faith in Supernova. Group F Marineking, Parting Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: First, Marineking WILL beat YuGiOh. After a close series in Code A, Marineking will study those games and I am sure he will be back and crush YuGiOh. Symbol Parting can go either way, but I give the edge to Parting. Yeah, every one of these guys can defeat MKP, but Marineking will learn and adapt. Group G DongRaeGu, viOLet Chances of Getting Out: 3/5 Notes: Idk why everyone is freaking out about this group. Oz has lost his fire, and I believe Maru is overrated. Dongraegu is a for sure go, and I will violet's ZvP over Oz. However, Violet might be different in the GSL than in overseas tournaments. Group H Leenock, Ryung Chances of Getting out: 4/5 Notes: Taeja will crush Ace. Idk how the hell he got into Code S. And in TvT , I give Ryung the edge over Taeja. Lemme know what you guys think. I lol'd at you thinking ThorZaiN will get out of his group.. it is his best matchup though, I believe. And I think Taeja might be better at TvT than Ryung right now, he's been stomping his TvTs lately besides the Red Bull games vs Bomber which I didn't watch XD. As a terran I'm rooting for Maru and I'm not sure Violet is ready for Code S since we haven't seen him play in it for so long. | ||
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SpecFire
United States1681 Posts
And I believe SlayerS will make a comeback this season. Ryung's TvT is SO solid, I cannot see how he won't beat Taeja. | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On June 02 2012 09:11 thrawn1020 wrote: Well, @FrostedMiniWheats and @Witten, neither one of you seems to have understood what I was saying. I saw Symbol play. He was good. I know he has good results in foreign tournaments. I've seen the record. Jjakji: didn't make it back into Code S. Also wildly overrated for his play in recent months. Sc: Struggling with his health, sure; but what league is he in? Code B. NO offense intended there, but he is in Code B. And lastly, Seed. Low-tier Code S player. Likely to perennially be in the Up and Down matches. I want better for him, but he hasn't shown it yet. I want to see players do well coming out of Code B, don't get me wrong. I'm no Yonghwa apologist. There are people who have repeatedly qualified since we knew about Yonghwa. I know, the Code A qualifier is hard; but there are players who are more deserving of Code A slots; many are in Code A now. Quoting GuitarBizarre "And on MKP's side, he's not going to fall apart just because of a few recent losses, he's been around too long for that." Really, nobody has been around too long for that. Nobody is proven. MKP has one of the worst styles of any of the Code S terrans remaining for TvT. Only Happy and theSTC are worse, and they are at least practicing the right styles. And if you think that MKP can't fall out just because he survived GomTvT, then I urge you to watch the first round of Code A. Bring your handkerchief; there will be crying involved when some of your favorite old Terrans fall out. At this point, MKP is too good to lose out of Code A, but I see him as easily able to slip out of Code S and have some trouble coming back. This is no weekend tournament; This is a preparation-based format where it is not merely the best player at playing 30 games in a row who wins, it is the player who can define what it is about the other player they can attack and break down, and then execute it. And second places in foreign events that happen over a weekend, and/or old GSL formats that involved a lot of substandard players, don't mean diddly to me. I don't pay for the GSL to watch ladder games; I judge based on the best, most prepared games possible, with a specific opponent in mind. And the GSL has delivered. Casters can say what they want; words are wind. They are paid for them. MKP has been the best performer abroad in weekend tournaments -- congratulations to him. But I have more respect for players who win a GSL than players who win any foreign tournament -- excepting Jjakji, who has fallen off precipitously since he won. Oh, and never, ever, did I say I thought MKP was "bad". I'm looking for the part of that post where you actually made any points. I can't find it. What I can find is you repeatedly asserting that MKP has a bad style (Disagree, it kills players just as well as anyone elses style.), and that there is a "Right" style for T (Again, disagree. No such thing as a "right" style. Anything can lose.) As for "ZOMG GSL IS THE ONLY TOURNAMENT THAT MATTERS" - Get off your high horse, really. A tournament is a tournament is a tournament. If MKP is beating good players anywhere, he can beat them anywhere. Does preparation time change the game some? Yes. Does it invalidate anything else? Fuck no. | ||
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