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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On June 12 2012 02:02 rhs408 wrote: Excalibur_Z I think you need to clarify this a bit. I'm pretty sure there IS seperate MMR for random team and 1v1, as I have played exclusively random team for many seasons now, and I have clearly seen my MMR going up (being promoted from diamond to masters and subsequently making high masters with good win% is my only proof of this). I haven't touched 1v1 since season 1, but it always says that I only need to play one placement match to get placed in a new league. But my 1v1 MMR certainly hasn't been in play during the past several seasons when I've only done RT. I think it would make sense if 1v1 MMR carried over to random team MMR during initial placement matches (if no random team placement matches had been done yet), but from then on the random team MMR should be completely seperate (and I'm pretty sure it is). On this same note, can random team MMR transfer over to 1v1 MMR if only random team has been played over the past several seasons? Or does the MMR only transfer from 1v1 to RT? From how I always understood it, the MMR does not 'transfer' no matter what - the 1v1/RT phenomenon only applies as far as having to play 5 placement matches or a single placement match depending on if either your 1v1 or RT has played a match in the last season. MMR does not seem to come into play at all with this. I also thought that the MMRs for random teams and 1v1 were separate. In my case, I was platinum in all 4 game types - 1v1,2v2,3v3,4v4, but last season I was promoted to diamond in 4v4 and 3v3 but remain platinum in 2v2 and 1v1, even though I had games played in all 4 game types. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 02:02 rhs408 wrote: Excalibur_Z I think you need to clarify this a bit. I'm pretty sure there IS seperate MMR for random team and 1v1, as I have played exclusively random team for many seasons now, and I have clearly seen my MMR going up (being promoted from diamond to masters and subsequently making high masters with good win% is my only proof of this). I haven't touched 1v1 since season 1, but it always says that I only need to play one placement match to get placed in a new league. But my 1v1 MMR certainly hasn't been in play during the past several seasons when I've only done RT. I think it would make sense if 1v1 MMR carried over to random team MMR during initial placement matches (if no random team placement matches had been done yet), but from then on the random team MMR should be completely seperate (and I'm pretty sure it is). On this same note, can random team MMR transfer over to 1v1 MMR if only random team has been played over the past several seasons? Or does the MMR only transfer from 1v1 to RT? From how I always understood it, the MMR does not 'transfer' no matter what - the 1v1/RT phenomenon only applies as far as having to play 5 placement matches or a single placement match depending on if either your 1v1 or RT has played a match in the last season. MMR does not seem to come into play at all with this. The MMRs are separate after the seeding period. RT/1v1 are interchangeable for the purposes of querying whether you were active in a previous season though. I'm not sure if there's a re-seeding though (for example, what if you're Bronze 1v1 and Master 2v2R, then you play ONLY 2v2R for a season? Will your 1v1 MMR still be Bronze or will it be Master?). | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 02:20 Payson wrote: Adjusted points? Where does that come in from? Sorry, haven't heard of spending all of my bonus pool affecting my MMR. 632 points, all bonus pool spent. Diamond right now only playing Masters on ladder lately. Adjusted points are your points excluding bonus pool. If you had 632 points but still 417 remaining bonus pool, you would have nearly 1050 points if only you consumed that pool. However, if you had 632 points and 0 bonus pool, that's a pretty significant 417-point gap. Your bonus pool doesn't affect your MMR at all, and in fact that's why we use adjusted points to gauge roughly where you are: we take it out of the equation completely. Therefore, if you have 632 points and all bonus pool spent, your adjusted points are only 215. You'd only get into Master if you started this season in the top 3 tiers of Diamond. If you started out the season with a promotion into Diamond from some other league, then chances are you're in the 6th or 7th tier and therefore would be too far from a promotion next season. I'd say the chances are fairly slim but it depends on the circumstances. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
Good time to get back into Masters (and beyond!). Anyone have any guess when season 8 will start? Ilm thinking tomorrow | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
On June 12 2012 03:16 Excalibur_Z wrote: The MMRs are separate after the seeding period. RT/1v1 are interchangeable for the purposes of querying whether you were active in a previous season though. I'm not sure if there's a re-seeding though (for example, what if you're Bronze 1v1 and Master 2v2R, then you play ONLY 2v2R for a season? Will your 1v1 MMR still be Bronze or will it be Master?). That's kind of what I was trying to figure out (woot I stumped Excalibur!)... maybe you can use your "MVP" status on the Blizzard forums to get a clear answer on this from a Blue?  | ||
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Soliloquy.
United States29 Posts
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KayoDot
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:25 KayoDot wrote: Excalibur, what tier of diamond would I need to be in to get promoted with 618 points and 0 bonus pool? How are you determining the point cutoffs? Using the known offsets. I would say if you're below 450 adjusted points (867 including bonus pool) there's a low chance of making it into Master from Diamond. A higher tier offsets this, so at 618 points (201 adjusted) you'd have to be in the first or second tier. | ||
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Serge89
Belgium38 Posts
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:38 Serge89 wrote: Im actually 1st in my diamond league with 800+ Pts(99th percentile from sc2ranks) facing a lots of masters and high diamonds players. I must win my placement match or i have a few chance to get promoted ? Thanks ! The placement match is just another game. It effects your MMR no more than a regular ladder game. If you're MMR is at a masters level, you will be promoted when the ladder unlocks. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:41 Targe wrote: What's the rough number of points you need to be around in order to get promoted after season lock? (Not diamond) It's different for each league, and different still for each division tier. It can vary greatly, for example up to 1250 in Bronze (including bonus pool) or as little as 500 points in Platinum. | ||
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Masvidal
Korea (South)213 Posts
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Payson
United States394 Posts
On June 12 2012 03:34 Excalibur_Z wrote: Adjusted points are your points excluding bonus pool. If you had 632 points but still 417 remaining bonus pool, you would have nearly 1050 points if only you consumed that pool. However, if you had 632 points and 0 bonus pool, that's a pretty significant 417-point gap. Your bonus pool doesn't affect your MMR at all, and in fact that's why we use adjusted points to gauge roughly where you are: we take it out of the equation completely. Therefore, if you have 632 points and all bonus pool spent, your adjusted points are only 215. You'd only get into Master if you started this season in the top 3 tiers of Diamond. If you started out the season with a promotion into Diamond from some other league, then chances are you're in the 6th or 7th tier and therefore would be too far from a promotion next season. I'd say the chances are fairly slim but it depends on the circumstances. Well I've been in Diamond since Season 4, and last season finished out in the Top 15 of my division, even though I played less than I did in Season 5. Currently I'm Top 8 (6th to be exact right now) and pretty much facing only Masters (including beating a Top 8 masters on ladder once) and High Diamonds. Do you think my MMR is possibly pushing me into Masters by now? I've been playing them on ladder for the last three seasons but a lot this season more than before. Thanks for the help! | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 04:49 Masvidal wrote: Can anyone tell me how to figure out how much of my point total is bonus points, so I can figure out my exact adjusted points? I grasp the concept, but I can't figure out where to get the figure of how many "bonus points" I have earned in order to subtract them from my overall points total. I'd appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction here! This season there were 8 weeks of bonus pool. That's 720 total for Master and Grandmaster, and 417 for Bronze through Diamond. In-game (not on the website) you add your remaining bonus pool to your current displayed points, then subtract the total as found above based on your current league. That will give you your adjusted points. | ||
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Colak
United States87 Posts
So this season I managed to get in around 200 games (winning ~120). Used up all my bonus pool and sit at 800 points and #1 Diamond. Anyone know what my chances of being promoted are? | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On June 12 2012 06:48 Colak wrote: Excalibur you're rocking this thread! Love it man So this season I managed to get in around 200 games (winning ~120). Used up all my bonus pool and sit at 800 points and #1 Diamond. Anyone know what my chances of being promoted are? Should be right above the border, pretty high probability. | ||
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Colak
United States87 Posts
On June 12 2012 07:15 Excalibur_Z wrote: Should be right above the border, pretty high probability. This, sir, is what I wanted to hear. Thanks for the quick response! | ||
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